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Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:53:00 -
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Hello all, I'm rather new to Eve but in my short time here, I have found that there are a decent amount of people who invite other players to duel but to no avail. I myself have invited several people to dual and been unsuccessful in getting an accept from the other party. I was thinking, why not have an area where people could go to just hang out around where all/most of the people there also want to duel.
So i wanted to ask the community if having a corporation (i was thinking of starting one for this) set up shop in a location and offering a sort of gladiatorial combat area for other players to come and hang out or duel would be a thing some people wanted. I'm sure you are wondering among other things why a corporation would be needed for this. Well the truth is you really don't, but as most people in this game I want ISK. Considering that these are a list of "services" the corporation would offer.
- Dueling prize money(i.e. two parties give an entrance fee, one winner of the duel gets the pot minus a percentage)
- Allow bidding on such activities (people watch a duel and place bets on the winner, winner(s) split the pot minus a percentage)
- tournaments with prizes
Now obviously there would be rules in place, such as but not limited too:
- If you warp out or for any reason leave the dueling area designated you will forfeit the match
- If you cheat in any way you will forfeit (cheating? like i said rather new so not sure about that one)
- the losers wreck is (obviously) open for the winner to inspect and take what they want
- Winnings will only be received upon destruction of the persons ship (not their capsule although if you wish to kill it, fine)
- Winnings will only be handed out to those who pay the entrance fee (so don't start a random duel then ask for your money)
- bets can only be placed on one ship at a time (to keep this simple and easy to deal with)
Now obviously, these are just some rough details but I really like this idea and just wanted to know if people wanted it/ would actually participate. I'm open for constructive criticism and ideas. Talk to me here or in game if you wish to join me in creating this or just want to play with my noob self.
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masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1663
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:54:00 -
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This thread is going places. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:56:00 -
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I would refer the OP to the concept of Herding Cats
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:57:00 -
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We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. |
masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
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Posted - 2014.04.15 22:59:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police.
Lo sec. Null sec. WH space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqrm6pOQsgQ Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:01:00 -
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Pretty sure the closest thing to a dueling area is FW sites |
Nyreanya
Serenity Labs
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:09:00 -
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I'm surprised RvB hasn't set up something like this already. [/sarcasm] |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
93
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:11:00 -
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Lowsec has gate guns. And SCARY pirates. With gatecamps in every gate. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1396
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:13:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. Solution: Remove the Po Po from hisec. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12161
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:13:00 -
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We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:13:00 -
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No. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:15:00 -
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The problem with dueling is its not some sort of honorable 1v1 combat, people cheat and justify it as "well it's EVE what do you expect" :D
The "Eve Tutors" channel ran moderated (as in, if you cheated or pod killed you could no longer enter) duel competitions with prizes last year but they have not done that for a while. |
CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:15:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. Solution: Remove the Po Po from hisec. But where would they go? |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1006
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:20:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Despite the title, OP is not asking for changes to the game, but rather seeing if anyone would be interested in their services. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
587
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:22:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Despite the title, OP is not asking for changes to the game, but rather seeing if anyone would be interested in their services.
Yeah, as i said the Eve Tutors channel did exactly this and I gather it worked but eventually got too much effort to organise. |
I'm So Pretty
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:26:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Your trolls are usually hilarious. On occasion though, you decide to post before actually reading the thread and end up looking more stupid than funny. |
Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:35:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Yeah, as i said the Eve Tutors channel did exactly this and I gather it worked but eventually got too much effort to organise.
Well, I'd be up to organize it constantly, as a corporation you could have shifts of people in charge of taking bets and entrance fees. but I am only one person atm, and although I'm sure someone will just take this idea and start it on their own I am open to people wanting to join me. also In reference to your previous comment about the "cheating", although I'm unsure of the details I'm at an understanding that anyone inside the duel can invite anyone else (possibly a friend) into the duel. this would obviously be against the rules and that person would forfeit the winnings. now if someone cheats or is otherwise disqualified from a duel on more than one occasion they would be banned from entering into a duel for a period of time. (this would be a sanctioned duel, not asking for a game change obviously) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20805
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:38:00 -
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No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
Also, F&I GåÆ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Amyclas Amatin
xX-Crusader-Xx Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:39:00 -
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Suddenly neutral logi, OGBs and not-quite 1 v 1. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4756
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:42:00 -
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There are countless threads asking for "arenas".
None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:43:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There are countless threads asking for "arenas". None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US?
Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:49:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There are countless threads asking for "arenas". None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox.
In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.) |
masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1663
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:51:00 -
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Cassandra Aurilien wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There are countless threads asking for "arenas". None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox. In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.)
Running an arena business in-EVE is fine and you already have all the tools you need. However, I posted that because some people want easy-mode Arenas that have game mechanics enforcing their honor code. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4756
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:52:00 -
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Cassandra Aurilien wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There are countless threads asking for "arenas". None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox. In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.)
Can fighting be done inside of a POS shield?
Ah... but if that was the solution, OGB would have to be impossible through a POS shield... or is it? I recall some torrents of tears over that topic roughly a year ago.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:52:00 -
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I'm So Pretty wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.
We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.
We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'. Your trolls are usually hilarious. On occasion though, you decide to post before actually reading the thread and end up looking more stupid than funny.
So your saying that you are unable to provide the Eve community with the above requests as well? Well..your services seem rather limited then. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area.
Edit: this "service" of sorts would also offer a way for people to test a ship's full potential without having to worry about having to keep someone locked down with scramblers and such. not saying it would be banned from the duel but you wouldn't have to have a scrambler because you would win even if they warp out. (unless you wanted their cargo) |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4756
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:02:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote:Tippia wrote:No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area.
I've noted that every time I go to Jita in a PVP fit someone sends a duel challenge.
Of course, that's Jita and I'm not stupid.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5212
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:17:00 -
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http://youtu.be/Pk7yqlTMvp8 Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
1033
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:25:00 -
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Tippia wrote:No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
Also, F&I GåÆ
Not just F&I but things like this can already be found in 'In-Game Events and Gatherings'. If you(OP) want to run events such as this I'd suggest first participating in some of the existing player/corp/alliance-run events that take place already. |
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:30:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote:Tippia wrote:No.
The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.
people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area. Edit: this "service" of sorts would also offer a way for people to test a ship's full potential without having to worry about having to keep someone locked down with scramblers and such. not saying it would be banned from the duel but you wouldn't have to have a scrambler because you would win even if they warp out. (unless you wanted their cargo)
It doesn't hurt to try. I'm sure there are people interested in fights where there is guaranteed to be no OGB, or other outside interference. (Without forfeiture of their stake.)
I doubt it will be easy, you'd need to get enough people interested to have fights on a regular basis, as well as enough of a reputation that people trust you. A reputation as a competent pvp pilot wouldn't hurt as well.
Good luck!
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