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Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:25:00 -
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and if not, what does? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1667
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:26:00 -
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No, but it prepares you for a special guest appearance on EVENews24 or TheMittani when you get ganked in our pimped missioning ship.
PVP prepares you for PVP. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20812
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:27:00 -
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Lol no. Exploding until you stop exploding prepares you from PvP. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Doireen Kaundur
704
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:28:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:No, but it prepares you for a special guest appearance on EVENews24 or TheMittani when you get ganked in our pimped missioning ship.
PVP prepares you for PVP.
But isnt that like saying "dont go in the water until you learn how to swim?" A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
5194
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:28:00 -
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No, missions do not prepare you for PvP except by giving you a relatively safe environment in which to learn how to use your targeting and weapons systems.
What prepares you for PvP is PvP. Join RvB, Faction Warfare or simply attend an Agony PvP class, and you will learn more about PvP in one day than a lifetime of mission-running.
In fact I posit that the more missions you run, the harder it will be for you to get into PvP. Mission-running teaches you a lot of very bad habits.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Doireen Kaundur
704
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Lol no. Exploding until you stop exploding prepares you from PvP.
OK, I think I understand now. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
5194
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:29:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:masternerdguy wrote:PVP prepares you for PVP. But isnt that like saying "dont go in the water until you learn how to swim?"
No, it's like saying, "throwing you in the pool and helping you not drown is how we teach you to swim."
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20812
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:29:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:But isnt that like saying "dont go in the water until you learn how to swim?" No, it's like saying GÇ£go into the water so you can learn how to swimGÇ¥. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1098
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:29:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:masternerdguy wrote:No, but it prepares you for a special guest appearance on EVENews24 or TheMittani when you get ganked in our pimped missioning ship.
PVP prepares you for PVP. But isnt that like saying "dont go in the water until you learn how to swim?" More like saying drowning isn't so bad when you're immortal.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12168
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:29:00 -
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Yeah... missions prepare you for PvP just like CoD prepares you for the military.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1667
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:30:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:masternerdguy wrote:No, but it prepares you for a special guest appearance on EVENews24 or TheMittani when you get ganked in our pimped missioning ship.
PVP prepares you for PVP. But isnt that like saying "dont go in the water until you learn how to swim?"
No, it's like saying "don't go into the 10 meter diving section when you can't handle the 1 meter shallows".
In other words learn using cheap frigates instead of expensive ships. Actually, if anything missions teach you that bigger ships worth more ISK are better which just isn't so. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20812
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:30:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:More like saying drowning isn't so bad when you're immortal. I retract my explanation and support this one instead.
Just remember to wear the cheap swimming trunks because you will soil them the first couple of times. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Doireen Kaundur
704
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:31:00 -
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LOL!!!
Great replies guys. Keep'em coming.
I see I have alot to learn about PvP.
Missions are starting to get old. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
408
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:40:00 -
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You running endless missions prepares me for pvp.
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stoicfaux
4502
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:40:00 -
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Grinding leads to botting, botting leads to RMT, RMT leads to PvP versus CCP.
/padawan-jedi-sumtim'-sumtim'
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Marsha Mallow
232
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:43:00 -
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Aye, learning mechanics via PVE will serve fine, just watch some big fleet pvp vids to get a sense of the rest
Forums are good if you want to read and follow orders
Bad if you have an opinion and your alliance ballgags you
Really, the best prep for PVP is lowsec or empire during wardecs - both sides of that coin. Enjoy the pain :P My current corp decced mine 5 years ago and I've been mates with em ever since (altho tbf i think that's just me, rest of corp not so much)
The most annoying mechanics exist in empire/low, but tbh the best smack ingame, because you have to force a fight. Some of which is genuinely funny, whereas nullsec is more about puffing up and strutting, posting crappy asciiss and pron - then someone else hotdropping 3 carriers with 190 man fleet you might get to be part of
v0v small gang is harder, but more rewarding - do blobsec for too long and you'll just mentally switch off. Try a bit of both mebe? Smallgang/solo and large scale? - |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1007
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:51:00 -
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Depends on which definition of "prepare" you look at.
1. to put in proper condition or readiness -- nope.
2. to get (a meal) ready for eating, as by proper assembling, cooking, etc. -- sounds about right. |
Winchester Steele
980
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:56:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:LOL!!!
Great replies guys. Keep'em coming.
I see I have alot to learn about PvP.
Missions are starting to get old.
Join RvB or BNI. Just do it. Don't wait until you are "ready." You won't ever be ready. Take this from someone who wasted almost a year doing PvE. ... |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
99
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:59:00 -
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Even lowsec ninja-mining in a Venture will prepare you for PVP more than running L4s in a Navy Raven. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4757
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:04:00 -
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Spending all of your teenage years anticipating getting laid and then having it last 10 seconds when it happens is what prepares you for PVP.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
694
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:04:00 -
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Undocking in a 40b "epic purps" mission-running battleship prepares you for PvP. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4700
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:10:00 -
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Grinding missions prepares you for a low-mid level job in a cubicle farm. You could put it on your resume, even. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5212
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:17:00 -
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Do missions prepare you for PvP? Nope.
How do you actually prepare yourself to PvP? Alcohol. Lots of it. And friends if you can get them. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
stoicfaux
4504
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:21:00 -
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Using the isk you earned from grinding missions to buy the mercs to PvP the folks that offended you counts as PvP, no?
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1887
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:40:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:LOL!!!
Great replies guys. Keep'em coming.
I see I have alot to learn about PvP.
Missions are starting to get old. Join RvB or BNI. Just do it. Don't wait until you are "ready." You won't ever be ready. Take this from someone who wasted almost a year doing PvE and nearly cancelled my sub until some kind gankers rescued me.
Heck with pimping those guys. They get enough love. Join Stay Frosty. They are super laid back, and still manage to kill all the things. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
Tran Tuyen
Amadio Family Enterprises
24
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:54:00 -
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Once you've gotten the hang of basic mechanics (locking, activating mods, etc), I'd say mission grinding actually makes you less prepared for PVP. PVE gets you used to long, low-intensity "fights" with predictable enemies, which is the opposite of how PVP usually works. |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
112
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:10:00 -
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No
What will get you prepared for PVP is fitting a cheap T1 frigate, going into your nearest low sec system and picking fights with the local inhabitants. Keep doing that till you start killing more then you lose.
That gets you ready for PVP and how I got started. Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1400
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:17:00 -
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Grinding missions prepares you for a life of sweatshop labor. Depending on which part of the world you live in and your present position in the socio-economic hierarchy of your surroundings, this might not be the worst way to go. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
273
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:22:00 -
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No...as others have said. At best, it perhaps gets you started on a few fundamental things (like perhaps tracking speed and various ewar types), but it's like the difference between learning how to fire an M-16 on rifle range versus that moment when you go to condition 1 in a real scenario and people start calling contacts.
As far as what does...PVP itself. That's the beauty of it. PVP is its own teacher and does an incredible job at that, though it does often require a "tuition fee" for providing lessons. Other players are a second best, but that depends on the teacher. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1890
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:28:00 -
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Grinding missions has prepared me for a life of retrieving tramps who can't keep their hands out of their boyfriends "pleasure hub." That doesn't come up as much in PvP as you might hope. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
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