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Triss S'Jet
Crystal Gateway
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:35:00 -
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Does it mean Dust and EvE Valkyrie are going to be put down next?
World of Darkness developer CCP sees $21 million loss in 2013 fiscal year |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:09:00 -
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that's nothing I must have lost 5 bil in the last year to stupidity President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:10:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:that's nothing I must have lost 5 bil in the last year to stupidity
Quoted for truth. I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more.
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Commissar Kate
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:28:00 -
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Now i'm no financial expert but If you look at the financial document that 21 million is just a write off from the R&D department. Most likely the work that has already been done on WoD.
But other then that they are still making money.
People, who talk, don't know. People, who know, don't talk.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:47:00 -
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Some time ago I had to write that WOD is the abortion asking dead in the womb, WOD dragged CCP backwards with all those failed attempts to develop it thru the years. You had it coming really. For DUST and now Valkyrie i don't have seen so much downs like with WOD, condition of those games may be poor, but CCP will deliver something more I think, like with EVE. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |
Cyndrogen
Black Watch Syndicate Vitoc Health Services
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:28:00 -
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DEVGANK! |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:55:00 -
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Cyndrogen wrote:The article mentioned that CCP disclosed it's financials somewhere, anyone have these numbers? I'm curious to see.
http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf
All you had to do is to search "CCP finance report" in Google. :) When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:26:00 -
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development for EVE did take five or six years (or something like that)
if it was a simple matter of one or the other, I wish for WoD.
really really really sad to hear it President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.04.19 05:54:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:development for EVE did take five or six years (or something like that)
if it was a simple matter of one or the other, I wish for WoD.
really really really sad to hear it
i think it was 5, ccp started in 97 i think. Did not start work in eve till around 99... i could be wrong |
Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 07:50:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:development for EVE did take five or six years (or something like that)
if it was a simple matter of one or the other, I wish for WoD.
really really really sad to hear it
bummer but sometimes you just have to shoot a project in the head once its become a black hole of cash. WoD was ambitious, especially how to integrate the various pieces of the experience in a game that can be very social and very political in the lore and in tabletop games, along with combat, talk of having multiple cities the camarill and sabbat could fight for, voting inprinces, etc.
the bloody tears of the WoD peoples on forums and facebook is interesting, though. Nothing Personal - Just Business...
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Chinwe Rhei
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.19 10:53:00 -
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Their EvE revenue increased but their R&D costs increased more (most of that was WoD work that went nowhere it seems). The company should be fine overall.
There is no reason to cancel Valkyre since the project seems to be in decent shape, but you got to wonder how much money you can make off a game that requires an expensive optional HMD at this time (as far as i know there's no regular display version of Valkyre in the works).
As for Dust, they'll probably keep running it since the game exists and the losses have already happened, but the Dust dev team may get downsized since they don't have much left to work on, the revenue doesn't justify a large team. Unless you know they start work on that PC version that would quadruple their playerbase.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:57:00 -
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Chinwe Rhei wrote:Unless you know they start work on that PC version that would quadruple their playerbase.
How so? EVE's playerbase are all PC gamers, but you assume that a significant number of them would play an FPS. Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2014.04.20 09:52:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:http://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf Accounting magic: 30 mil losses before tax, 9 mil income tax, 21 mil net losses? WTF. Or do they mean that 9 mil is income tax credit?!? Does Iceland actually do that? That would be nice. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T Build your own EVE PC http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559734 |
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