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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:36:00 -
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It goes further than just ships as well. Can't tell you how many people I've seen people forget the second "i" in Centii or Gistii when referring to small complex reppers/boosters, thus pronouncing them as "Senty" or "Gisti". Reminds me of Rome:Total War in that many of the roman units have a similar double "i" ending. So many people have called any of the various Draclira's Mods the "Dracula's Modified whatever". |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1715
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Posted - 2014.04.19 18:34:00 -
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One I notice is the Rapier.
Everyone calls it a "R@pe-ur" when it should be pronounced "Rap-yay".
Though I admit I just pronounce it like everyone else does for simplicity sake. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
0
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:15:00 -
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Atron, Incursus, Algos, Myrmidon, Vexor (this one just the "R" tbh), Maulus, Imicus, Exequror, Proteus, Navitas, Keres, Taranis, Helios, Deimos, Thorax, Celestis... well pretty much all of the Gallente ships plus a few other aronud like the Gnosis, ancient greek and latin names, regularly butchered by English speakers and Frenchmen who just have completely different sounds
Also, Centii, being latin, not to be pronounced "Sentii" but "Chenti", same Gistii, to be pronounced "Jistii" |
Jessica Danikov
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
322
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:39:00 -
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Rap-yay? Are you trying to Frenchify and an already Anglicized word? The original middle French is 'rapiere', so the pronunciation of 'ray-pee-urr' is just fine.
Kitsune- given the eastern roots of Caldari nomenclature, it should be 'kit-soon-eh' (if you're trying to sound Japanese when you say it, you're doing it right). Same goes for Ishukone- 'ish-oo-cone-eh'.
Nugoeihuvi- again, with eastern roots in mind, the n is silent, goei is a Dutch/Chinese bastardization of 'way', the end result being something close to 'oo-way-hoo-vee'.
Naglfar- the g is very hard while the 'far' is almost swallowed, so it comes out something close to 'nackle-fuh'.
Nidhoggur- the d is a 'th' sound, so you get something like 'neathe-hur-gur' (rhyming with 'beneath burger').
Rokh- those citing 'roke' as the original Arabic pronunciation are correct, but again English has adapted the word- the kh should be treated like a k (see ankh, sheikh), so the singular o achieves the 'ock' sound ('oke' requires an e, ook requires the double o). The alternative English spelling of 'roc' also indicates the correct pronunciation.
Those who thought it was spelt 'Rohk' and pronounce the 'oh' to get 'r-oh-ke' are miles out.
I love the Charon = Karen, that's just spot on.
Scimitar, Scythe... I would have thought silent c's are easy, but people seem to handle to former just fine then stumble over the latter. The worst is when people also combine a hard c with the '-ythe' mutated to sound like 'ith', ending up with 'skith', which is very close to Skiff. Death by mining barge... |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1624
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:46:00 -
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Jessica Danikov wrote: Kitsune- given the eastern roots of Caldari nomenclature, it should be 'kit-soon-eh' (if you're trying to sound Japanese when you say it, you're doing it right). Same goes for Ishukone- 'ish-oo-cone-eh'. .
Kitsune is actually pronounced "keets-nay" if my limited understanding of Japanese is correct. I do know that it's not just a made-up name. A kitsune is a mischief demon that appears as a slightly anthropomorphic fox. (Tengus are also non-evil demons in Japanese lore... I own a tengu mask, and it's friggin cool).
However, "kit-soon" is a perfectly acceptable pronunciation. When you say it the way you suggested, you just sound like a poorly informed Inuyasha fangirl. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1624
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:07:00 -
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Doctor Knuckles wrote:Atron, Incursus, Algos, Myrmidon, Vexor (this one just the "R" tbh), Maulus, Imicus, Exequror, Proteus, Navitas, Keres, Taranis, Helios, Deimos, Thorax, Celestis... well pretty much all of the Gallente ships plus a few other aronud like the Gnosis, ancient greek and latin names, regularly butchered by English speakers and Frenchmen who just have completely different sounds
With the exception of Thorax, Comet, Megathron, and a couple others, Gallente ships are all named after gods. And not all of them are Greek. For example, Ishkur is the Mesopotamian god of war, and Ishtar is from the defunct culture of an ancient micronation called Nineveh, in the Middle East. A goddess of something bad, although I can't remember exactly what, right now.
Erebus and Nyx are the names of the Ancients who gave birth to the Titans, who in turn gave birth to the Olympians. Those two pronunciations are a little dodgy.... learning about Greek mythology in one of my advanced classes in high school, the teacher was a white South African bloke who pronounced it "Err-ya-bus", and I'm in the habit of saying the name like that, to this day. As for Nyx.... "nix" seems to be correct, although enunciating the y is acceptable.
I'm not even close to knowing where in the nine circles of hell "Exequror" came from. For all I know, it may be a misspelling of "exchecquer", which is the UK version of the American IRS. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21114
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:24:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:For example, Ishkur is the Mesopotamian god of war, and Ishtar is from the defunct culture of an ancient micronation called Nineveh, in the Middle East. A goddess of something bad, although I can't remember exactly what, right now. Ishtar is the Babylonian goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex GÇö entirely appropriate for such a lovely ship.
Quote:I'm not even close to knowing where in the nine circles of hell "Exequror" came from. For all I know, it may be a misspelling of "exchecquer", which is the UK version of the American IRS. Exequror - Latin : From "exequor" To follow to the end, or the grave. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1624
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:For example, Ishkur is the Mesopotamian god of war, and Ishtar is from the defunct culture of an ancient micronation called Nineveh, in the Middle East. A goddess of something bad, although I can't remember exactly what, right now. Ishtar is the Babylonian goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex GÇö entirely appropriate for such a lovely ship. Quote:I'm not even close to knowing where in the nine circles of hell "Exequror" came from. For all I know, it may be a misspelling of "exchecquer", which is the UK version of the American IRS. Exequror - Latin : From "exequor" To follow to the end, or the grave.
Thanks for the backup, Tip..... switch primary. :) That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21114
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:42:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Thanks for the backup, Tip..... switch primary. :) Funnily enough, Astarte is the Phoenician version of Ishtar, and yet it's the Eos that has become the CS-version of the Ishtar in the game. Silly devs. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1624
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Posted - 2014.04.19 22:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Thanks for the backup, Tip..... switch primary. :) Funnily enough, Astarte is the Phoenician version of Ishtar, and yet it's the Eos that has become the CS-version of the Ishtar in the game. Silly devs.
I still think that the next Gallente hull that gets introduced needs to be named for a Zoroastrian god.... Ahuramazda would work.... That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21115
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:07:00 -
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We also need a Surtr GÇö the slayer of gods that sets the entire world on fire GÇö for Minmatar. It's particularly suitable in the context of this thread since no-one will be able to pronounce it correctly. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1624
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:12:00 -
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Tippia wrote:We also need a Surtr GÇö the slayer of gods that sets the entire world on fire GÇö for Minmatar. It's particularly suitable in the context of this thread since no-one will be able to pronounce it correctly.
I need to go crack open one of my dusty old books on Gnostic Christianity. Gnostics recognized the existence of other gods, and their lore is where most of the angel and demon names came from (example: Azrael; angel of death...) There's some seriously cool stuff in Gnosticism. as I remember, the names they had for minor deities and demigods were pretty awesome. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1729
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:13:00 -
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I find it interesting how Gila is pronounced.
I've heard He-la (like the animal ) and Gi-la (the way the word looks) Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1625
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:18:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:I find it interesting how Gila is pronounced.
I've heard He-la (like the animal ) and Gi-la (the way the word looks)
I'm pretty sure the English language unofficially abandoned pronouncing it as "heela", about 10 years ago. Kind of like how we've accepted "neanderthal" as the correct spelling, rather than the original "neandertal" (I'm stubborn, so I still spell it without the h.... and Pluto is still a planet). That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21115
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:18:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:I find it interesting how Gila is pronounced.
I've heard He-la (like the animal ) and Gi-la (the way the word looks) The G-as-H pronunciation comes from the Mexican Spanish and is technically the correct one, since they named the damn thing.
GǪbut then again, by the same token, the American GÇ£jag-waarGÇ¥ pronunciation that drives British car enthusiasts up the wall is also the correct one, even though it'll earn you a pint poured over your head. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Rina Utama
I See Red People
0
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Posted - 2014.04.20 00:11:00 -
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Abaddon - Abba - don.
Caracal - Car - a - cel.
Rokh - Rock.
Scythe - Sigh - th
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1627
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Posted - 2014.04.20 02:41:00 -
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Rina Utama wrote:Abaddon - Uh-bad-in.
Caracal - Care- a - cal.
Rokh - Rowk.
Scythe - Sigh - th
Fixed it for you That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
La'Krul
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
96
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:11:00 -
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Most people who play Eve are drooling retards, so it's only natural that they can't pronounce any name with more than 4 letters in it.
How about saying Megatron, Harbringer or Anna Theema to show how really stupid one is!
Anyone who says Sky th should probably kill themselves. |
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3424
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:18:00 -
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Pretty much every single ship is based on a mythical figure, icon, or thing well known enough that your native tongue will have a proper way to pronounce it. I promise. |
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3424
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:masternerdguy wrote:I find it interesting how Gila is pronounced.
I've heard He-la (like the animal ) and Gi-la (the way the word looks) The G-as-H pronunciation comes from the Mexican Spanish and is technically the correct one, since they named the damn thing. GǪbut then again, by the same token, the American Gǣjag-waarGǥ pronunciation that drives British car enthusiasts up the wall is also the correct one, even though it'll earn you a pint poured over your head.
As someone fluent in both Murican and Latin Spanish, "Jagwar" sounds absolutely nothing like "haguarr". No english pronunciation is even close to "correct" by that metric. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
855
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:35:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Tippia wrote:masternerdguy wrote:I find it interesting how Gila is pronounced.
I've heard He-la (like the animal ) and Gi-la (the way the word looks) The G-as-H pronunciation comes from the Mexican Spanish and is technically the correct one, since they named the damn thing. GǪbut then again, by the same token, the American GÇ£jag-waarGÇ¥ pronunciation that drives British car enthusiasts up the wall is also the correct one, even though it'll earn you a pint poured over your head. 4 No english pronunciation is even close to "correct" by that metric. this gave me a good laugh Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á The Best Quote EVER Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21131
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Posted - 2014.04.20 08:40:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:No english pronunciation is even close to "correct" by that metric. To be fair, that's almost universally true anyway. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Miss Furry
State Protectorate Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.04.20 14:45:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Abbadon is hebrew: ¦ìß+çadd+ìn.
A characal is English, a mammal: k+ªr+Ök+ªl
Rokh is a fictional name. Whatever. I say Row-kh.
A Scythe is a tool, also English: sa+¬+¦
Out of all four, the Rokh is the only one that actually alows for interpretation or variation. The other 3 are pronounced either correctly or incorrectly.
I believe "Rokh" was derived from "Shahrokh" or "Roc", a legendary bird from Middle Eastern mythology. It makes sense anyway, given that most, if not all, of the other Caldari ship names are bird-related. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3429
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Posted - 2014.04.20 14:48:00 -
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While we are at this...
I feel it should be "Jee-ta" for Jita, and not "Jitta"
Because it only has one t in it *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
232
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Posted - 2014.04.20 14:57:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Luckily we Finns don't mangle letters with all that silent crap like other languages do so I can spell every single ship letter by letter if I need to. But mostly it's abaddon - 'baddon, megathron - mega, hyperion - hype, anathema - anateema (so you don't have to stop in middle for -th-), rokh - rokh, thorax -rax - or sotakurkku (war cucumber). Serbian is like this as well - one written letter = one spoken sound.
I do, however, have some trouble with Nordic words... like Eyjafjallaj+¦kull for example My signature got stolen (o.0) |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3430
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:01:00 -
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Baneken wrote: anathema - anateema
But but but..... its not a "ee" sound
its "Anath-eh-ma"
*** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1199
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:05:00 -
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Scythe and anathema. They're not just names, they are actual words in the English language, there's really no excuse.... |
Antihrist Pripravnik
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
232
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:09:00 -
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Machariel
I've always pronounced it "the Italian way"... "ch" like in Italian greeting "ciao" and a long "M".. it even sounds like an Italian word to me. My signature got stolen (o.0) |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3440
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:56:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Scythe and anathema. They're not just names, they are actual words in the English language, there's really no excuse....
Richie: Hh, it's not possible. Okay, I Spy it is. Oh God this is important. Better make it a goodie. Okay, coming, ready or not. I Spy with my little eye something beginning with "S".
Eddie: "Submarine".
Richie: No! Ha ha! It was "Scythe". Ha ha! Oh, I win, I get to live! Thank you Baby Jesus! Thank you all the Baby Jesuses!
Eddie: Hang on, hang on, hang on! "Scythe" doesn't begin with an "S".
Richie: Yes it does!
Eddie: It bloody doesn't, it's a "C"!
Richie: It's not!
Eddie: It is, get a dictionary!
Richie: All right, I've got one here. Here. Scythe, scythe, scythe. There you are, "Scythe". "S-C-Y-T-H-E".
Eddie: That's "Sither".
Richie: It's "Scythe", it says "Scythe" there! It's in the dictionary, Jesus wrote this! *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1631
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Posted - 2014.04.20 19:02:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Machariel
I've always pronounced it "the Italian way"... "ch" like in Italian greeting "ciao" and a long "M".. it even sounds like an Italian word to me.
considering it's supposed to be an amalgam off all the angel names in traditional Catholic lore, that's "working as intended" Gäó That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
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