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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:53:00 -
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I was reported in game for using the f word by a person who has spent the last 3 months following me around from system to system, called me a pedophile, using profanity, and nothing has been done about that person even though I reported them for harassment after they specifically stated they were here to harass only me (screenshotted and supplied to GM's), they're still in system non-stop,. I moved into next system and they've now moved another alt into that system to continue...
So I have received a warning for saying "****" while both in game and on these forums the word is used constantly and no action is taken against the special CCP snowflakes there or here. I'd also point out that on these forums its been implied that I'd be better off killing myself, my person in RL has constantly been personally attacked and still no action is taken against those people (Kaalrous is a great example of someone that seems impervious to sanctions against trolling, personal attacks and bad language).
This is an adult game, played by adults, and imo the use of the word "****" is not an actionable petition-able offence and not a violation of the EULA simply because its used in every system frequently and without sanction. The devs even use it from time to time. For a clause in an EULA to be valid it must be enforced, if its not enforced equally that clause is then nullified. It cant' simply be used to target specific players while ignoring the rest.
Considering this I am unsubbing 6 of my 8 accounts.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4713
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:54:00 -
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I have waited so long to say this.
Can I have your stuff? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4713
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:55:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:For a clause in an EULA to be valid it must be enforced, if its not enforced equally that clause is then nullified. It cant' simply be used to target specific players while ignoring the rest.
Oh, and this. Considering the position you took on the E1 thing:
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2185
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:55:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I have waited so long to say this.
Can I have your stuff? Unsubbing 6 accounts != quitting EVE, bad luck troll. I'm fairly certain they're your alts harassing me too right? Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20873
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:56:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I have waited so long to say this.
Can I have your stuff? Unsubbing 6 accounts != quitting EVE, bad luck troll. Sure, but it still means 6 accounts that don't need their stuff any more. So hand it over for safe-keeping. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4717
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:57:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I have waited so long to say this.
Can I have your stuff? Unsubbing 6 accounts != quitting EVE, bad luck troll. I'm fairly certain they're your alts harassing me too right?
Dat persecution complex. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1287
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:57:00 -
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Well, carebears tend to do that.
6 out of 8? I propose Kaarous and I halve it.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2185
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:For a clause in an EULA to be valid it must be enforced, if its not enforced equally that clause is then nullified. It cant' simply be used to target specific players while ignoring the rest.
Oh, and this. Considering the position you took on the E1 thing: AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah because the using F word is the same as what Erotica1 did... Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1137
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:58:00 -
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Doesn't matter who, no one deserves it.
I would hope that CCP have applied consistent rulings and warnings. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:58:00 -
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Cloakers [AFKR]
why not just go afk? |
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2185
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I have waited so long to say this.
Can I have your stuff? Unsubbing 6 accounts != quitting EVE, bad luck troll. Sure, but it still means 6 accounts that don't need their stuff any more. So hand it over for safe-keeping. No it doesn't. It means transferring all the stuff to my other 2 accounts. Troll more. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4717
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:59:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Well, carebears tend to do that. 6 out of 8? I propose Kaarous and I halve it.
Sounds fair to me. Infinity, will you agree to use Chribba as a third party to check the API, so we get a fair split? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1287
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:01:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Well, carebears tend to do that. 6 out of 8? I propose Kaarous and I halve it. Sounds fair to me. Infinity, will you agree to use Chribba as a third party to check the API, so we get a fair split?
Yea, definitely need an API verification.
Y'know. Full faith.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2185
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:02:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Doesn't matter who, no one deserves it.
I would hope that CCP have applied consistent rulings and warnings. They obviously don't. This person was petitioned for following me from system to system, implying that I watch child **** and am a pedophile, stated outright that they were following me specifically to annoy me and spent hours non stop ranting in local profanity and harassment. Nothing was done when petitioned.
I use the F word, they petition and the next day I get a warning? Fair or biased? You decide. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Tweek Etimua
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:03:00 -
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You'll make more of a point by complety leaving. Hard to believe some one is honestly disturbed wih a product but still uses it. I would say best of luck..but you're not realy leaving.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4717
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:04:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Doesn't matter who, no one deserves it.
I would hope that CCP have applied consistent rulings and warnings. They obviously don't. This person was petitioned for following me from system to system, implying that I watch child **** and am a pedophile, stated outright that they were following me specifically to annoy me and spent hours non stop ranting in local profanity and harassment. Nothing was done when petitioned. I use the F word, they petition and the next day I get a warning? Fair or biased? You decide.
Hold on here, that's different.
Are you saying you managed to find out that the GM didn't do anything to the other guy? Because you finding that out is an actionable offense too. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1287
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:05:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Doesn't matter who, no one deserves it.
I would hope that CCP have applied consistent rulings and warnings. They obviously don't. This person was petitioned for following me from system to system, implying that I watch child **** and am a pedophile, stated outright that they were following me specifically to annoy me and spent hours non stop ranting in local profanity and harassment. Nothing was done when petitioned. I use the F word, they petition and the next day I get a warning? Fair or biased? You decide.
Don't give them the satisfaction, Infinity, for crying out loud.
I will send you the mails I send out when I get raged on and called every name in the book.
Always polite and concise...despite what people have called me. I would be happy to EvE Mail you examples.
Also, IB4L for discussing warnings and bans.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Rayo Atra
Immortalis Fratres Vacui Legio immortales CXCI
37
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:07:00 -
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Language censorship should be done client side. If that pilot chooses to block harsher language, they can ESC-> tick the "no bad language im 10" box. The rest of us are paying customers and should be able to say what we please.
Any other position is detestable. Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.
-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2185
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:09:00 -
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Chat
As you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
1290
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:09:00 -
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Not only that, but all chat boxes now have a filter that will remove certain words you deem, "unfit."
Toolbox.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1911
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:10:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I was reported in game for using the f word by a person who has spent the last 3 months following me around from system to system, called me a pedophile, using profanity, and nothing has been done about that person even though I reported them for harassment after they specifically stated they were here to harass only me (screenshotted and supplied to GM's), they're still in system non-stop,. I moved into next system and they've now moved another alt into that system to continue...
So I have received a warning for saying "****" while both in game and on these forums the word is used constantly and no action is taken against the special CCP snowflakes there or here. I'd also point out that on these forums its been implied that I'd be better off killing myself, my person in RL has constantly been personally attacked and still no action is taken against those people (Kaalrous is a great example of someone that seems impervious to sanctions against trolling, personal attacks and bad language).
This is an adult game, played by adults, and imo the use of the word "****" is not an actionable petition-able offence and not a violation of the EULA simply because its used in every system frequently and without sanction. The devs even use it from time to time. For a clause in an EULA to be valid it must be enforced, if its not enforced equally that clause is then nullified. It cant' simply be used to target specific players while ignoring the rest.
Considering this I am unsubbing 6 of my 8 accounts.
Wow.. this made my night. Going to bed happy tonight. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20875
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:10:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:No it doesn't. It means transferring all the stuff to my other 2 accounts. That doesn't make sense. If those 6 accounts still needed their stuff, you wouldn't be transferring it, now would you? But you are, so obviously it does mean they don't need their stuff any more and you can hand it over for safe-keeping. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2185
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:11:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Doesn't matter who, no one deserves it.
I would hope that CCP have applied consistent rulings and warnings. They obviously don't. This person was petitioned for following me from system to system, implying that I watch child **** and am a pedophile, stated outright that they were following me specifically to annoy me and spent hours non stop ranting in local profanity and harassment. Nothing was done when petitioned. I use the F word, they petition and the next day I get a warning? Fair or biased? You decide. Don't give them the satisfaction, Infinity, for crying out loud. I will send you the mails I send out when I get raged on and called every name in the book. Always polite and concise...despite what people have called me. I would be happy to EvE Mail you examples. Also, IB4L for discussing warnings and bans. I think this is something that needs to be outed in front of the community. They can lock it I'll just start a blog on CCP and its special snowflakes instead. Something they can't control. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4723
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:12:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:ChatAs you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd.
You called him an A-hole in the first few lines...
Oh and following someone isn't against the rules, I do it all the time.
How about you post some proof about all his verbal harassment, because all I see so far is you verbally harassing him. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Rayo Atra
Immortalis Fratres Vacui Legio immortales CXCI
37
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:12:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:Not only that, but all chat boxes now have a filter that will remove certain words you deem, "unfit." Toolbox.
seriously, i just saw that in the new karkur vid. Should be a perfect solution.
otherwise go back to ..preschool? Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.
-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1911
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:14:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:ChatAs you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. You called him an A-hole in the first few lines... Oh and following someone isn't against the rules, I do it all the time. How about you post some proof about all his verbal harassment, because all I see so far is you verbally harassing him.
We should probably all stop now and get CCP Ripard Teg involved on this. He's best positioned to determine who is torturing whom. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2185
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:15:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:ChatAs you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. You called him an A-hole in the first few lines... Oh and following someone isn't against the rules, I do it all the time. How about you post some proof about all his verbal harassment, because all I see so far is you verbally harassing him. Actually its against the EULA to target one player and follow them constantly. Learn to read. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1137
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:15:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:They obviously don't. This person was petitioned for following me from system to system, implying that I watch child **** and am a pedophile, stated outright that they were following me specifically to annoy me and spent hours non stop ranting in local profanity and harassment. Nothing was done when petitioned.
I use the F word, they petition and the next day I get a warning? Fair or biased? You decide.
Also point out that that same person, after admitting they were their specifically to harass me are still there and on their 3 or 4th month of the same in the system I'm based in. On the face of it, that seems like harassment, so if nothing was done that seems odd.
Without the details of the rulings (which I suspect only CCP has) it's hard to do much other than assume.
But either way, no one no matter what there play style or history in the forum deserves to be called those things or followed from system to system. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4731
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:16:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:ChatAs you can see the person specifically states they're there to harass me only, which is a violation of the EULA. Nothing is done however me using the F word gets a warning. I don't usually put on the tin foil hat but this seems pretty absurd. You called him an A-hole in the first few lines... Oh and following someone isn't against the rules, I do it all the time. How about you post some proof about all his verbal harassment, because all I see so far is you verbally harassing him. Actually its against the EULA to target one player and follow them constantly. Learn to read.
Clearly the GMs disagreed. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Rayo Atra
Immortalis Fratres Vacui Legio immortales CXCI
37
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Posted - 2014.04.17 05:16:00 -
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Let me state for the record i have no interest in the OP's bandwagon.
Blow him up, evade him, move on.
Only despise the censorship. Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.
-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
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