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Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 23:10:00 -
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Hi.
In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvpGÇö and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.
Firstly, you have most of the powers of nullsec (cynos, bridges, capitals) and fewer drawbacks.
There are no bubbles to catch capital ships, so using them is much less risky. You can bridge very confidently and not have to worry about your fleet being bombed or caught in a warp disruption sphere.
Key ships in lowsec like falcons, link boats, logistics etc are much harder to stop due to the absence of bubbles. Implants are very difficult to lose, so many people use high grade ones, which gives them a great advantage.
I've personally found that the solo/small gang "good fights" you find in lowsec are much rarer than in nullsec.
I'm not 100% what the solution to this is. For a start, I'd consider nerfing how easy it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec. Keep hisec the way it is with implants, so this "style" of play can continue to exist. Hi. |
Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos
348
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Posted - 2014.04.17 23:12:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:I've personally found that the solo/small gang "good fights" you find in lowsec are much rarer than in nullsec.
Funny. My experience has been just the opposite.
The difference is that I wouldn't dream of asking for a nerf to nullsec. Can we just agree to disagree?
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Prince Sanguine
117
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Posted - 2014.04.17 23:23:00 -
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It seems like the best remedy for this is to stay in null. I rarely venture into any other space unless its hs to gank for the tears. Null is king Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me. |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2014.04.17 23:25:00 -
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More ownership with out security status losses for defending it Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1170
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Posted - 2014.04.17 23:31:00 -
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If you can't find goog solo/small gang fights in lowsec, you aren't looking very hard. They're generally everywhere. Its no more difficult than in null.
If you can't catch acpod because others know how to warp out instantly after being killed, use a smartbomb. They are generally rare to see in lowsec and mostly used to kill drones, but they work just as well against pods.
Lowsec at the moment, at least in the FW systems offers some of the best solo and small gang pvp. It doesn't need fixing though any change that bought even more pvp would always be welcome. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.04.17 23:46:00 -
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Wouldnt lowsec be a great place for your Warlording? |
Shrewd Tsero
Aventine Legion
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Posted - 2014.04.18 00:27:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvpGÇö and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.
What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me!
It is good to have substance to one's existence.-á But in the absence of substance, one can do much yet with style. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4649
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Posted - 2014.04.18 00:34:00 -
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Shrewd Tsero wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvpGÇö and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole. What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me!
Well, lets put it this way...
If I owned a place in Hell and in low sec, I'd rent out low sec and live in Hell.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
423
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Posted - 2014.04.18 00:37:00 -
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The problem with low sec is the whole idea behind it. Honestly, it should just be nullsec light and not this Judge Dredd's Mega-City One thing.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4938
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Posted - 2014.04.18 00:38:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Shrewd Tsero wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvpGÇö and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole. What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me! Well, lets put it this way... If I owned a place in Hell and in low sec, I'd rent out low sec and live in Hell.
You mean Hek. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
29
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Posted - 2014.04.18 00:53:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote: Implants are very difficult to lose, so many people use high grade ones, which gives them a great advantage. it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec. Keep hisec the way it is with implants, so this "style" of play can continue to exist.
High grade implants in lowsec? Not very common that I have ever seen. And I dunno about great advantage, do I sense tears?
Also, dont rely on bubbles to make up for your lack of skills, at pod catching.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4650
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Posted - 2014.04.18 00:59:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Shrewd Tsero wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvpGÇö and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole. What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me! Well, lets put it this way... If I owned a place in Hell and in low sec, I'd rent out low sec and live in Hell. You mean Hek.
Yes.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Sibyyl
398
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:19:00 -
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Yes there are no bubbles in lowsec. Not sure we needed a whole post to say that. Did you have any ideas to improve lowsec? From my point of view lowsec has most of the risk of null without the payout. Gate guns for pvp are annoying too. Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
Tear Jar
The Conference Elite CODE.
98
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:44:00 -
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I think sec loss is a big part of the problem.
Low sec is supposed to be the less tryhard version of null. No sov to defend, just roaming and fighting.
The problem is that fighting in low kills your sec status. So you have to be a full time null/low sec player, or just stay out of low sec.
By contrast, you can roam into null, do a suicide frigate run and go back to your regular character afterwards. |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1033
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:33:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:For a start, I'd consider nerfing how easy it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec. I'd go the other way and give pods bubble-immunity so the nullseccers can enjoy expensive implants like everyone else.
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Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
265
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:49:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Shrewd Tsero wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvpGÇö and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole. What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me! Well, lets put it this way... If I owned a place in Hell and in low sec, I'd rent out the place in low sec and live in Hell.
You know, you supposed to be some slick-**** killer. Now look at you... all back-of-the-bus and ****.
EVE's only legitimate ISK halving service. I have 50Billion to not give away. It's easy for you to double my money. Just send me some isk, has to be 100Mil or higher, and I will send you back half. I can't lose. One guaranteed winner every round. Do it now. |
Daerrol
Lumen et Umbra
1
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:58:00 -
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I'm not very good at it but I PVP in low sec all the time solo. 50% of the time I get a 1v1, 25% of the time I see a trap but am so bored I take it anyways, 25% of the time I get no action. Honestly the traps are usually pretty obvious. One of the main corps in Metropolis I see is call Traps'R'Us. They live up to their name. Lose a few Slashers, red status the ganking corps and neutral sec the good fighters, problem solved. |
SKINE DMZ
S U P R E M E - M A T H E M A T I C S A Band Apart.
440
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Posted - 2014.04.18 08:12:00 -
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What are you chatting about, lowsec is literally solo/small gang world. I call troll I disagree
RAWR IM TOUGH |
Grunanca
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
216
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Posted - 2014.04.18 08:20:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi.
In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvpGÇö and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole.
Firstly, you have most of the powers of nullsec (cynos, bridges, capitals) and fewer drawbacks.
There are no bubbles to catch capital ships, so using them is much less risky. You can bridge very confidently and not have to worry about your fleet being bombed or caught in a warp disruption sphere.
Key ships in lowsec like falcons, link boats, logistics etc are much harder to stop due to the absence of bubbles. Implants are very difficult to lose, so many people use high grade ones, which gives them a great advantage.
I've personally found that the solo/small gang "good fights" you find in lowsec are much rarer than in nullsec.
I'm not 100% what the solution to this is. For a start, I'd consider nerfing how easy it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec. Keep hisec the way it is with implants, so this "style" of play can continue to exist.
It funny, because my experience is quite the opposite. In low sec you can get fights ranging from 1 v 1 to about 200 people. Here an investement in the form of slave implants makes quite a difference, where you are just another guy who aint better than the one next to you in 0.0. Also, have you heard of heavy interdictors? They do a great job in catching capitals in low sec. If bubbles were allowed in low sec, you would alienate a lot of the people living there. There is plenty of space to play with bubbles in, no need to ruin it for the people that have adapted to and enjoy another type of pvp. |
Plug in Baby
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
193
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Posted - 2014.04.18 08:58:00 -
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Django Askulf wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote: Implants are very difficult to lose, so many people use high grade ones, which gives them a great advantage. it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec. Keep hisec the way it is with implants, so this "style" of play can continue to exist.
High grade implants in lowsec? Not very common that I have ever seen. And I dunno about great advantage, do I sense tears?
Where do you live? I find the question among PVP groups in low sec is not whether they have HG or not, but which one are they in today.
Really if you WL the smartbombers and check local you really don't lose pods, so why not use implants? This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main. |
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Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
29
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Posted - 2014.04.18 09:17:00 -
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Plug in Baby wrote:
Where do you live? I find the question among PVP groups in low sec is not whether they have HG or not, but which one are they in today.
Really if you WL the smartbombers and check local you really don't lose pods, so why not use implants?
Minmatar lowsec, for the most part. Its a true "****hole" and ghetto out here. Maybe youre used to FW farmers? Where I grew up, we were just poor (unsuccessful for the most part) gate campers, trying to scrape by on anoms occasionally. HG implants?...yeah right.
I dont WL anyone, myself. If I meet up with someone out to get me, thats just the way it goes. Considering nowdays I solo hunt, when I get time. Its usually in something small and cloaky. If someone is slow to warp, Im gettin that pod.
No expensive implants here, or jump clones. Jump clones take too long, and I pod express myself a lot. |
Plug in Baby
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
193
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Posted - 2014.04.18 10:12:00 -
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Django Askulf wrote: I dont WL anyone, myself. If I meet up with someone out to get me, thats just the way it goes. Considering nowdays I solo hunt, when I get time. Its usually in something small and cloaky. If someone is slow to warp, Im gettin that pod.
In the busier low sec regions, a short WL of the prolific smartbombers (such as Santo) can save a lot of hassle, cloaky or not you're still at risk, not that they are out to get you it is just what they do. Of course probably not necessary if you don't have expensive pods or live somewhere like MH.
My point is that it doesn't take much effort to preserve a head of implants for a few years in low sec and over time the significant advantages of the various sets does pay off. This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main. |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2139
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Posted - 2014.04.18 10:15:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Lowsec at the moment, at least in the FW systems offers some of the best solo and small gang pvp. It doesn't need fixing though any change that bought even more pvp would always be welcome.
I totally agree , the only blobs you see is if a milita fleet is roaming or a band of pirates. Offcourse if you're flying around in verry pretty shiny ships you will draw the attention of a blob but that's the same in null-sec .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5189
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Posted - 2014.04.18 11:28:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:For a start, I'd consider nerfing how easy it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec. I'd go the other way and give pods bubble-immunity so the nullseccers can enjoy expensive implants like everyone else.
I like this idea!
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5189
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Posted - 2014.04.18 11:29:00 -
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Shrewd Tsero wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:In EVE Online I do a fair amount of solo and small gang pvpGÇö and I'd like to present my theory on why lowsec is a ****hole. What kind of hole?!?!? Sinkhole? Donut hole? Airhole? Armhole? The suspense is killing me!
Hobbit-hole, I'm pretty sure.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
115
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:04:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote: For a start, I'd consider nerfing how easy it is to warp off safely with implants in lowsec. Already there, it's called Santo Trafficante. 9,150 pod kills and counting!
Proof that different game mechanics open up fun opportunities for the creative-minded (and dedicated, I should add).
EVE would be pretty boring if all space had the same or very similar mechanics. If you personally prefer nullsec mechanics, just stay in null, right? |
Serene Repose
1273
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:57:00 -
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Expected to see some new insight. Found the same old same old. Left with no reaction whatevah. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Advanced Amateurs
1248
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:16:00 -
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All "small gang" activities exist by the grace of blobs being not present. Dunno what the OP is on about, I get enough roam action in lowsec. Just gather some intel beforehand so you can dodge the blobs. Oh... you mean actually living there and owning space assets, and carebearing in your own space like people in nullsec do? Then yeah, it's less stressfull to just regard it as nullsec's gutter and not bother too much. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2590
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:25:00 -
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Tear Jar wrote: The problem is that fighting in low kills your sec status.
This is not a problem. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
Kiryen O'Bannon
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
110
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:39:00 -
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essentially this thread is "whaaaa peoples pods are escaping too much!" |
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