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Revolution Rising
Killson Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2014.05.25 05:51:00 -
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Why would CCP hate on industry someone asked me (and I personally think - more specifically mining) as an in-game profession?
Well simple. Mining specifically, and industry as a whole ... is the "Anti-Plex" as far as CCP is concerned.
Why on earth would you allow an in-game activity to have concise and easy mechanics around it to help the player - if it's for things like ship replacement when you can make them buy a $15 plex to replace those ships. Of course this creates a mineral shortage while ship losses rise creating inflation, but hey - who cares?
Why allow simple payment to miners from their corp for their ore - at a pos ? Why allow low-sec to be liveable for these guys and girls ? Rather to produce a cloaked ship so people must ninja-mine rather than live there. Allow low-sec for PVP, but not for miners to live in!
Much more preferable to the bottom line.
I will bet you that the nice screens of the new industry UI that's coming are exactly that. Just more shiney UI, and little to no change to mechanics.
Just when many people were hoping for publically rentable privately owned labs - they went the opposite way - now the BPO has to be in the POS!
Disallowing a whole new ingame industry for the added risk of losing BPO's - creating more plex sales.
Take a good long look at the changes each patch. Little of it is for interesting gameplay or great sandbox maintenance.
It's all for CCP to go the way of EA.
Ever since the Hillmar email 2 years ago, nothing has changed. Or rather "The more things change, the more they stay the same". . |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.05.25 16:48:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote:Well simple. Mining specifically, and industry as a whole ... is the "Anti-Plex" as far as CCP is concerned.
Uh, are we playing the same game here?
Plex take two people to be useful.
One to purchase with real money, and to sell in game.
One to buy with in game money and use.
Take a wild guess which miners fall into, with their fleets of alts. Woo! CSM 9! http://fuzzwork.enterprises/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.05.25 19:56:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Thank you to the CSM for a very funny read.
This thread and the why the CSM thread.
Players come along and state an opinion, the CSM or in the case of the other thread CCP comes along and attacks them for their views. Rather than finding out more about their view point.
And CCP and the CSM wonders why no one bothers to vote and that they are now below 10% And EvE subs are dropping.
Some very funny stuff thank you.
Inconvenient facts can be considered "an attack" if you want them to be.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!" |
Revolution Rising
Killson Corp Circle-Of-Two
390
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Posted - 2014.05.26 13:39:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:Well simple. Mining specifically, and industry as a whole ... is the "Anti-Plex" as far as CCP is concerned. Uh, are we playing the same game here? Plex take two people to be useful. One to purchase with real money, and to sell in game. One to buy with in game money and use. Take a wild guess which miners fall into, with their fleets of alts.
Thanks for illustrating one of my various points to do with a lack of actual comprehension as to what makes up good gameplay.
15 alts mining out belts every 10 minutes which respawn every day (if you're lucky) does not exactly add to the gameplay of everyone around them. If that's your intended audience when you speak of "miners" then I really wonder what you're even doing on the CSM at all.
I'm talking about people wanting to play the game rather than people going out of their way to spreadsheet their way to free accounts every month.
I'm talking about the general philosphy behind the game and the decisions we've seen made for the past 5 years or so regarding gameplay changes where they occur and where the line is drawn on things like the labs I illustrated above.
Unless you have more than a "I read this in the paper" or "I was told by CCP" opinion on the subject, I fail to see what you're adding. . |
marcel72
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.28 12:17:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote:I'm personally just not sure what the niche IS ?
Sociopaths. |
Iain Cariaba
In Over Our Heads
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Posted - 2014.06.25 20:46:00 -
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marcel72 wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:I'm personally just not sure what the niche IS ? Sociopaths. Hey! I resemble that remark!
@OP: Seriously though, why is it CSM/CCP's fault that they give you mostly what you want, yet you're still not happy and are always wanting more?
Examples:
Highsec carebears want less ganking -> CCP buffs barge tank -> bears cry cause they have to sacrifice 15% of thier hulk's yield to tank New players want to be effective -> CCP allows them destys -> bears cry cause new players can be effective (if you think someone is recycling alts, report them as this does break the rules.)
There's an old saying that boils down to 'you can't make everybody happy'. CCP tries hard, and created the CSM to facilitate this, but there will always be someone crying about something in any community numbering in the tens of thousands.
As for the players who send you mails raging about some immagined slight, tell them to contract me thier stuff and I'll hold it for them until they come back. Personally, I've rage quit this game probably half a dozen times. I always come back, they most likely will too.
Remember, a buff to anything is a nerf to something else. If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong. |
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