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Mellisa Jade
Sarum Family Auxiliary Support
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:07:00 -
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Scince the CSM was re-established back in 2008* (ish?) the game has taken a decided turn for the worse.
Besides forcing CCP to quit development of a part of the game many of us were looking forward to (WiS) and guiding development away from the natural innovation of its creators. The CSM appears to continually propel the development of the game onwards towards the whim of a bunch of people who have nothing but the destruction of the game in mind (Goonswarm +co). All we really see now is continual reitteration of parts of the game that few feel to be *broken*. The last real development of the game was the introduction of wormholes over half a decade ago!
When will we see this horrible group of people dispanded and have the power of development returned to the people who know best how to develop a computer game (the devs)?
'Time is to eternity, as the mind is to what surrounds us.' |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5222
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:08:00 -
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In before lock.
Oh, and we need a "Conspiracy Theories" subforum to redirect these nutjobs into. We could make Dinsdale a mod of that forum. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1871
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:09:00 -
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This shall be VERY interesting...
*grabs popcorn* New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2948
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:09:00 -
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Everything you say is wrong.
There may be reasons to disband the CSM but those you chose are not them. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6123
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:11:00 -
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Mellisa Jade wrote:Scince the CSM was re-established back in 2008* (ish?) the game has taken a decided turn for the worse.
Besides forcing CCP to quit development of a part of the game many of us were looking forward to (WiS) and guiding development away from the natural innovation of its creators. The CSM appears to continually propel the development of the game onwards towards the whim of a bunch of people who have nothing but the destruction of the game in mind (Goonswarm +co). All we really see now is continual reitteration of parts of the game that few feel to be *broken*. The last real development of the game was the introduction of wormholes over half a decade ago!
When will we see this horrible group of people dispanded and have the power of development returned to the people who know best how to develop a computer game (the devs)?
Translation: It's the CSMs fault that walking around on legs in a space ship game isn't popular and didn't go anywhere. Also Grr Goons.
The CSM isn't pulling any strings, they are representing the players wishes to CCP. It is the players who asked for CCP to focus on spaceships. It is the players who asked CCP to fix the game rather than introduce more half baked Jesus features. It is the players who ask for the actual player driven part of the game (the part you call 'destruction') to be the focus of the game instead of thempark style 'content'.
What you don't like is the EVE Online community as a whole, not the CSM. Therefore, Disband the community.
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Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
127
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:12:00 -
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Mellisa Jade wrote: the people who know best how to develop a computer game (the devs)?
What developers know is how to build a program (as in developing)
What they don't know is how to make an enjoyable game.
People who play the game will. Which is why your post is usefull. If we were to follow your guidelines, you have no business posting whatsoever. You are not a dev.
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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:12:00 -
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CSM? Never heard of it .
does it do anything relevant for the eve community Pog mo thoin |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6123
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:13:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:In before lock.
Oh, and we need a "Conspiracy Theories" subforum to redirect these nutjobs into. We could make Dinsdale a mod of that forum.
OMG that would be epic.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4813
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:15:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Everything you say is wrong.
There may be reasons to disband the CSM but those you chose are not them.
This..
As much as I would love to see the CSM disbanded, ignorant hysteria isn't going to get us there, that's what got us here.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3555
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:15:00 -
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CSM should go
OP is off and wrong
That is all
Please exit the walkway to the left
Your car will be subjected to repeated..... *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
599
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:15:00 -
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WiS thread AND a grr goons thread in one...
Hot damn, I swear they're getting better at making these sorts of posts. Now doubling them up too... *mind blown* Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Salvos Rhoska
1120
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:18:00 -
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In light of recent events, I support the CSM.
The function as a player/community based watchdog on the activities of CCP as well as an informed basis for feedback on design, is invaluable and a credit to CCP and the community at large.
Corruption, in terms of some CSM potentially representing some interests dishonestly (note: its OK (oh kay) to represent your own interests and those of your constitutents) vs the potential benefit, is in favor of the latter, upon the benefit of the doubt for the former.
But I have to restate this, because it is such a fine line.
It is OK for a CSM to completely and without shame, represent his own interests and those of the constituency who elected him. There is nothing wrong with that. But it does carry one caveat, it does not give anyone the priviledge to lie or to dishonestly hedge an interest against another party.
Do you get what I mean? It is one thing to stand up for what you believe in, it is quite another to dishonestly attack or discredit that of another CSM, or another section of the community.
The goal must always be a unilateral and universal one: That of a better game. Everyone must understand and accept that goes before and ahead of any personal interest. ------------ |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
784
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:19:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:This shall be VERY interesting...
*grabs popcorn*
*grabs some too* |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3555
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:20:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote: Nope. (Sound familiar?)
Should do. Its what you do constantly anywhere Ive expressed an opinion.
Ramona McCandless wrote:CSM should go .
Salvos Rhoska wrote:In light of recent events, I support the CSM..
GFY *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1308
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:21:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Do you get what I mean? It is one thing to stand up for what you believe in, it is quite another to dishonestly attack or discredit that of another CSM, or another section of the community. Salvos I never thought I'd see the day you'd agree that Ripard's attack on E1 and scamming in general was way out of line.
Good to see. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
17109
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:24:00 -
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I may have fish today, still undecided.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1872
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:27:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I may have fish today, still undecided. Leftover Turkey/Potato/Stuffing/Ham/Corn sandwiches for the next week!!! I hope everyone voted in the CSM elections! Thank you to those who actually supported my campaign! Even if I don't get elected in, I hope that the CSM that do, and Devs actually use my ideas somewhere! |
Salvos Rhoska
1120
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:27:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Do you get what I mean? It is one thing to stand up for what you believe in, it is quite another to dishonestly attack or discredit that of another CSM, or another section of the community. Salvos I never thought I'd see the day you'd agree that Ripard's attack on E1 and scamming in general was way out of line. Good to see.
False.
Ripard, as an independant person, brought attention to Erotica1's transgressions. The community, the CSM and CCP responded.
Erotica1's activities where not good for the game. The CSM agreed. The Community agreed. CCP agreed.
If you disagree with that, go ahead. That is your prerogative. There will always be a minority of deviants in every society. Doesnt mean anyone gives a **** what you think. ------------ |
Jallukola
29
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:28:00 -
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Perharps not disband, but to strip away all impact and influence to game development and make them nothing but a communicative arm bethween the userbase and CCP, yes. The greatest battle music of all time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67MPxnPHBNk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16RCvtziXj0
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3557
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:29:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Do you get what I mean? It is one thing to stand up for what you believe in, it is quite another to dishonestly attack or discredit that of another CSM, or another section of the community. Salvos I never thought I'd see the day you'd agree that Ripard's attack on E1 and scamming in general was way out of line. Good to see. False. Ripard, as an independant person, brought attention to Erotica1's transgressions. The community, the CSM and CCP responded. Erotica1's activities where not good for the game. The CSM agreed. The Community agreed. CCP agreed. If you disagree with that, go ahead. That is your prerogative. There will always be a minority of deviants in every society. Doesnt mean anyone gives a **** what you think.
@Scipio
Could've called that one lol
Minority of deviants lol thats awesome. Where is he from the ******* 1950s?!
Ill make that my next corp name *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18084
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:34:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:There will always be a minority of deviants in every society. By deviants you mean people such as yourself that think real life violence is justified for actions taken within the context of a virtual world?
Never go full Ripard |
Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
3057
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:34:00 -
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nah |
Salvos Rhoska
1120
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:34:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Minority of deviants lol thats awesome.
You lost. Community, CSM and CCP all together ruled against you.
Deal with it. ------------ |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
17110
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:35:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
@Scipio
Could've called that one lol
Minority of deviants lol thats awesome. Where is he from the ******* 1950s?!
Ill make that my next corp name
Great name indeed, but I do find that name ironic from that source.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Salvos Rhoska
1120
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:36:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:people such as yourself that think real life violence is justified for actions taken within the context of a virtual world?
Are you not familiar with 4chan? ------------ |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3558
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:38:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: You lost. Community, CSM and CCP all together ruled against you.
Deal with it.
Against me?
Why, what did I do?
And what was their ruling, they appear to have forgotten to tell me *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3255
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:39:00 -
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You see, I don't like the current action of the CSM (or one member), as in the whole "I can demand CCP buckle to my agenda", but the CSM itself does some pretty good things. It would be a shame for the actions of a single corrupt and despicable individual to cause the dissolution of the CSM, so I think it would be much better if the CSM simply held themselves to a higher standard (as indeed many of them already do).
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Erotica1's activities where not good for the game. Opinion, citation needed. It's just as plausible that Erotica 1's publicity prior to this day encouraged more players to play, as an example of the "play the villain" marketing.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:The CSM supposedly agreed though made no formal statement. A vocal minority of the Community agreed. CCP made a knee-jerk decision outside of their normal rules to prevent the potential for bad press following a CSM member publicly attacking another individual in a hate campaign. FTFY. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
543
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:42:00 -
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Mellisa Jade wrote:dispand
Stopped reading there.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Salvos Rhoska
1120
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:45:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Opinion, citation needed. CSM+Community+CCP opinion agrees on Erotica1's expulsion. Citation? She got banned. Nuff said.
If you don't like it, run for CSM while I laugh. ------------ |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
17110
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:51:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Opinion, citation needed. CSM+Community+CCP opinion agrees on Erotica1's expulsion. Citation? She got banned. Nuff said. If you don't like it, run for CSM while I laugh. People keep saying he was banned, but I have so far seen no evidence of this.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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