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CYVOK
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:08:00 -
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Over the past 10 days ASCN has waged, what became, a rather one sided battle against Tribal Souls Alliance in Paragon Soul.
With the final destruction of the last Tribe Star-Base a few days ago and the deployment of ASCN Star-Bases all systems in Paragon are now firmly in the hands of ASCN & AXE forces.
This link will lead you to a folder which contains several convoÆs with tribe members and some cool screenies for your amusement.
Now on to the really crappy detailsà
Tribal Souls members that wish to leave Paragon Soul in peace with all their worldly possessions intact will NOT be allowed to do so.
Thanks to all the communications about how you guys are going to hire mercÆs, regroup in Stain Proper & NAP SE/IRON as well as other ASCN enemies. I could not in good conscience allow you to leave the region with all your stuff just so you can mount a better counter attack sometime down the road. If you wanted to keep the region you should have at least tried to fight for it in the first place. That at least would haev earned you a great deal of respect.
So here is your deal, SELL EVERYTHING YOU OWN at ROCK bottom prices on the Paragon market and clone jump back to Empire because in 7 days you will loose 100% of your access to the Regions Stations. If you have any hope of getting some ISK in your pocket, sell NOW.
Tribe members in Frigates/captors will be allowed to leave in peace (I do not promise you wonÆt get fired on, but we will try our best). Tribe members discovered in bigger ships, especially haulers and Freighters will be immediately destroyed.
Tribe members that have been granted the chance of join ASCN Corps ARE NOT to undock Freighters in Paragon Soul at this time. I wasnÆt born yesterday, I know many of you that have been offered a place in ASCN will simply try to use that membership as a way to safely bail out of the Region. Additionally, if you are caught in a hauler heading for Stain or Catch you will be destroyed.
I am sorry I could not be more compassionate. I have no grudge or dislike for any current or former members of Tribe. Unfortunately you are meeting me at a point in EvE after which I have been thought some hard lessons, such as letting a potential enemy go peacefully with all their resources intact.
-CYVOK-
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Kirex
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kirex on 17/05/2006 02:11:28 ;o edit:....FIRST! :D! ---------- Need help with dealing with those annoying carebears?! |
Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:12:00 -
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You need more Naglfar's tbh ---------------
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Naverin
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:12:00 -
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Shame you completly missed the veldspar as i jump drived it to safety...
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:13:00 -
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Sounds fun. Hope the veldspar will sleep peacefully under ASCN ===
God is on the side with the best artillery.
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Cattraknoff
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:15:00 -
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sweet, we got our veldspar back
now we can all mine in peace
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: David Corbett on 17/05/2006 02:23:57 Alright then! That was fun.
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INZi
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:26:00 -
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nice one axe&ascn. well done everyone and ts, thank you for watching
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Xianthar
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:37:00 -
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Respect to those in TS that fought.
To those who were commiting massive insurance fraud...you'll be remembered
-xian
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Cattraknoff
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Xianthar Respect to those in TS that fought.
To those who were commiting massive insurance fraud...you'll be remembered
-xian
QFT
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:52:00 -
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at offer to offline POS.
I'd like to say that I was really shocked by that, but sadly I doubt it comes as a suprise to anyone that has dealt with them since Abs left. Cowards.
********** > really getting tired of internal BS and bickering
Amazing that people would comment on internal BS, in the same breath as offering to sabotage there alliances last defence, and STILL not understand where those internal problems originated.
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Cattraknoff
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Posted - 2006.05.17 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ab Initio at offer to offline POS.
I'd like to say that I was really shocked by that, but sadly I doubt it comes as a suprise to anyone that has dealt with them since Abs left. Cowards.
********** > really getting tired of internal BS and bickering
Amazing that people would comment on internal BS, in the same breath as offering to sabotage there alliances last defence, and STILL not understand where those internal problems originated.
although i wasn't overly shocked that some offered this, it still ****es me off that people will screw over their entire alliance just to save a few of their iskies (which hopefully they'll lose all of it now)
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:00:00 -
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Good LORD! Offering to turn off soveriegnty in exchange for a "deal" to remain in the region!?! Pathetic. If there is ever an EVE dictionary, this should be a good definition for "alliance betrayal"
If I were a member of this corp, I would leave immmediately before some of that disgrace rubbed off on me.
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BoinKlasik
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:07:00 -
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as it was in ec-p8r so shall it be in Paragon Soul...I missed anything interesting.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Gonz0
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: Gonz0 on 17/05/2006 03:13:19
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VladImpaler
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:13:00 -
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Only thing I would have done different is NOT censored the names involved in those shady convos. Open communications and all that...those people are no better than corp thieves.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: VladImpaler Only thing I would have done different is NOT censored the names involved in those shady convos. Open communications and all that...those people are no better than corp thieves.
In the eyes of many, thatd be seen as lowering himself to their standards.
Always better to talk with actions than cut and pasted convos.
Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
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Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:21:00 -
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a corp really offered to offline POSes to save their own skin?
Wow. They deserve what they're getting.
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Jim BobbyJoe
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:26:00 -
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FYI that was WhiteKnight who had the dread BPO's and made the offer to offline POS's.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:27:00 -
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Wow that was a very very sad show. As a matter of fact I can't honestly think of a worse showing by an allience, ever, even NSA could have pwned you guys.
to the few who fought, good for you, I hoep eve works out for the best.
To the rest, well I hope this has cost you each billions of isk. Though thats not punishment enough for a good-for-nothing, whinny freeloader. I've seen enough of these to have no respect for them at all.
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Sharmina
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:30:00 -
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Wow, I am impressed. Karma in all it's glory. This Alliance was doomed from the moment Abriana resigned. Even though ANZAC Alliance has dusted itself off and moved on to greener pastures, I cannot help but smile that certain smile that says "what goes around, comes around", yes, now I'm satisfied.
Revenge is a dish best served cold
The iron fist in a velvet glove R |
Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: VladImpaler Only thing I would have done different is NOT censored the names involved in those shady convos. Open communications and all that...those people are no better than corp thieves.
omg i agree with an alt! ------------------
Frustrated:
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:33:00 -
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Sweet tribal always had bubbles, but ascn has tons of more noobs and fights with shear numbers or does not fight at all so we can go staight from ganking delve noobs to period basis noobs to paragon/feth/eso noobs without ever having to go more than 10 jumps at a time.
Today is a good day for the l33t looting corps in eve.
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CYVOK
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: CYVOK on 17/05/2006 03:38:55
Originally by: Jim BobbyJoe FYI that was WhiteKnight who had the dread BPO's and made the offer to offline POS's.
Actually it wasn't... and thier were 4 offers to do this from 4 differant players in 3 differant Corps. I deleted the names for a reason, I don't believe in dragging EvE players through the mud, please respect that.
-CYVOK-
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Fraps
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:44:00 -
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Quote: Tribal Souls members that wish to leave Paragon Soul in peace with all their worldly possessions intact will NOT be allowed to do so
To be honest thatÆs just mean, like a kid burning ants with a magnifying glass. But I can kind of see where itÆs coming from, not wanting to help re-arm your enemies and all. But there are plenty of people not planning on returning to Paragon or any region in 00, to make them sell there stuff off at "rock bottom prices" is overkill. Those people may lose everything, you already took near 100billion in stations and POS's, do you need more? If that's the kind of person you are in a game, a game for god sake, I can't imagine what you are in RL, nor would I want to.
On a side note I think it would have been better to name the persons in those convoÆs especially the ass hat who wanted to offline a POS. What hell we were going to lose anyway. Why the need to stick it to us even harder. Frankly I can easily see why we lost the area. The alliance as a whole acted like morons. Trying to take space from an alliance 4 times your size. Turning on allies at the drop of a hat, or in this case when it seemed like there was a bigger safer dress for which we could hide under.
And before some one post, with the statement where were you, how many ships did you lose in the fight. I can happily say I lost 2 or 3, and only one was a BS, I killed no one, when I would log in at night all that was basically happening is everyone was either staying docked or running up to stain. Kudos to those who did fight, you went against all odds and in the true fashion of going against all odds you lost. Nothing to be ashamed of, itÆs a game, IÆm sure you had fun.
I did like seeing stonyvisions email about merging into some alliance up north, took seven days for him to be ready to merge into another alliance, a whole week, wow way to stick it out. I guess whatever merger that was offered by ASCN months before wasn't good enough, but now that thereÆs nothing left off you go, you and your "diplomatö good work fearless leader.
ItÆs a shame that allot of the blame is placed on STC; there are other corps in the alliance as well. Though again from reading post and other things it looks like a good bit of that is deserved. Pushing out PVP people. Fostering a carebear attitude in an area where we were out numbered on all sides by potential enemies. And hey I'm one of the worst offenders, I ratted most my time down there. Only taking place in a few pvp opps. So shame on me as well. In the end tribal souls I think has the legacy of what not to do when trying to form an alliance and hold space in the wonderful game of EVE
IÆm happy I can take away allot from living in 0,0 I went down there with less than 3 mill sp and left with just over 10. Learned allot about EVE and through those ten months I can see once constant force in this game. Nothing last forever. Stain empire fell, stain alliance fell, tribes fell (quickly) ASCN will fall, even BoB will fall. (Look I mentioned BoB first I want a prize)
Originally by: Rohann /emote pokes woody and moons him
I R NEKID SEE!?!?!?!?! |
Fraps
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK Edited by: CYVOK on 17/05/2006 03:38:55
Originally by: Jim BobbyJoe FYI that was WhiteKnight who had the dread BPO's and made the offer to offline POS's.
Actually it wasn't... and thier were 4 offers to do this from 4 differant players in 3 differant Corps. I deleted the names for a reason, I don't believe in dragging EvE players through the mud, please respect that.
-CYVOK-
Dragging them through the mud? can I ask if any of the people you talk to apply to be members of any of the POS holding corps in ASCN will you approve of there membership.
Your not dragging them through the mud, your saving others from there future betrayal
Originally by: Rohann /emote pokes woody and moons him
I R NEKID SEE!?!?!?!?! |
David Corbett
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Posted - 2006.05.17 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Fraps Those people may lose everything, you already took near 100billion in stations and POS's, do you need more? If that's the kind of person you are in a game, a game for god sake, I can't imagine what you are in RL, nor would I want to.
This is not quite true. When the decision was made to persecute a war against Tribal Souls, twenty four hours of notice was given. That's up on the forums somewhere if I recall correctly. This is plenty of time to remove equipment/etc. Admittedly it didn't last the full day; however, this was only because some Tribal Souls members evidently chose to use that time to attack ASCN. Therefore your claim is untrue. Your suggestion that CYVOK is some sort of insane cruel individual is also completely untrue.
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Fraps
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Posted - 2006.05.17 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Fraps on 17/05/2006 04:01:27
Originally by: David Corbett
Originally by: Fraps Those people may lose everything, you already took near 100billion in stations and POS's, do you need more? If that's the kind of person you are in a game, a game for god sake, I can't imagine what you are in RL, nor would I want to.
This is not quite true. When the decision was made to persecute a war against Tribal Souls, twenty four hours of notice was given. That's up on the forums somewhere if I recall correctly. This is plenty of time to remove equipment/etc. Admittedly it didn't last the full day; however, this was only because some Tribal Souls members evidently chose to use that time to attack ASCN. Therefore your claim is untrue. Your suggestion that CYVOK is some sort of insane cruel individual is also completely untrue.
I suggest he has some sort of fun by holding peoples assest hostage and offering a cheesy sell at rock bottm prices answer. its a game, there's no need to be an ass. as for moving stuff out in 24 hours, thats BS I doubt anyone could move all of there stuff through hostile space in thattime span while also attending to whatever RL obligations they have. christ I must have 5 haulers worth of ****. so im to what call in sick? hey boss, i can't come to work today somebody is giving me a deadline to get my stuff outa paragon soul.... wheres paragon soul you ask? well its in this game I play called eve... im fired? but why?
and as for breaking the agreement it was said that you guys were moving assest into what was then our space, how can we not see that as a first strike?
eddit for some spelling.
Originally by: Rohann /emote pokes woody and moons him
I R NEKID SEE!?!?!?!?! |
Xianthar
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Posted - 2006.05.17 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Fraps Edited by: Fraps on 17/05/2006 04:06:15 Edited by: Fraps on 17/05/2006 04:01:27
Originally by: David Corbett
Originally by: Fraps Those people may lose everything, you already took near 100billion in stations and POS's, do you need more? If that's the kind of person you are in a game, a game for god sake, I can't imagine what you are in RL, nor would I want to.
This is not quite true. When the decision was made to persecute a war against Tribal Souls, twenty four hours of notice was given. That's up on the forums somewhere if I recall correctly. This is plenty of time to remove equipment/etc. Admittedly it didn't last the full day; however, this was only because some Tribal Souls members evidently chose to use that time to attack ASCN. Therefore your claim is untrue. Your suggestion that CYVOK is some sort of insane cruel individual is also completely untrue.
I suggest he has some sort of fun by holding peoples assets hostage and offering a cheesy sell at rock bottom prices answer. ItÆs a game, there's no need to be an ass. as for moving stuff out in 24 hours, thatÆs BS I doubt anyone could move all of there stuff through hostile space in that time span while also attending to whatever RL obligations they have. Christ I must have 5 haulers worth of ****. So IÆm to what? Call in sick? Hey boss, I can't come to work today somebody is giving me a deadline to get my stuff out of paragon soul.... whereÆs paragon soul you ask? Well itÆs in this game I play called eve... IÆm fired? But why?
And as for breaking the agreement it was said that you guys were moving assets into what was then our space, how can we not see that as a first strike?
Edited for some spelling.
there is a reason that a warning dialog box pops up when you move a clone to a conquerable station....its conquerable...most people would consider taking actions to protect themselves and their assets in such a location...your alliance did not...and that is your fault and no one elses.
-xian
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Dynast
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Posted - 2006.05.17 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fraps I suggest he has some sort of fun by holding peoples assets hostage and offering a cheesy sell at rock bottom prices answer. ItÆs a game, there's no need to be an ass. as for moving stuff out in 24 hours, thatÆs BS I doubt anyone could move all of there stuff through hostile space in that time span while also attending to whatever RL obligations they have. Christ I must have 5 haulers worth of ****. So IÆm to what? Call in sick? Hey boss, I can't come to work today somebody is giving me a deadline to get my stuff out of paragon soul.... whereÆs paragon soul you ask? Well itÆs in this game I play called eve... IÆm fired? But why?
And as for breaking the agreement it was said that you guys were moving assets into what was then our space, how can we not see that as a first strike?
I don't understand why you feel entitled to be granted safe passage from the area. It seems to me that this isn't a matter of Tribal Souls assets being held hostage, but rather being taken as spoils of war. And its not as if TS has done anything to inspire ASCN and AXE to be magnanimous conquorers.
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