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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:08:00 -
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Prepare yourself for battle!
The Alliance Tournament is one of the annual highlights where teams from alliances compete against each other in a huge spaceship tournament for eternal fame and unique prices.
We are glad to announce that the 12th Alliance Tournament will be kicking off on August 16, 2014.
Please read all about this Alliance Tournament in CCP Gargant's latest dev blog Alliance Tournament XII announced. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
816
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:10:00 -
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Plenty of time for all Alliances to organize interested individuals! See all you lovelies in space! CCP Gargant | Community Representative | Tournament Referee |
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3902
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:14:00 -
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Can't wait! |
Tetsel
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
120
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:21:00 -
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I knew it, I shouldn't have waited to join an active alliance. Damn it ! Can't wait to watch it on stream. Loyal servent to Mother Amamake. @EVE_Tetsel |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
919
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:25:00 -
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\o/
This gonna be awesome. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
261
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:35:00 -
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Not so sure about the later than usual date, I liked it where it was in the past.
Either way, still super excited for this |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2557
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Posted - 2014.04.25 15:45:00 -
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Quote:A sense of humor is a must is this a new requirement for this year? eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 16:34:00 -
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So the deadline to be in an alliance is three weeks EARLIER than last year, for a tournament that is now starting four weeks LATER than last year....
For the record, I detest unannounced deadlines. Setting a deadline then not announcing it until the deadline has already past just is so... questionable... I understand your reasoning for it, but it just "tastes bad."
Anyways, rant over.... on to serious questions.
- The player wishes to rejoin the alliance that the character was most recently a member of
- The character in question has spent a significant amount of time in this alliance over the past year
These exceptions heavily favor the older, long-established alliances over the new/newer alliances. As an alliance just formed this year (two months ago) but naive enough to have hopes and dreams of being in this year's Alliance Tournament, we can't really make use of these two exceptions, because we're not old enough for anyone to have "spent a significant amount of time in" yet and hardly nobody has left my alliance to return to it.
That leaves the first stated exception:
- The character in question was not in any alliance at the time of the cutoff on April 24th.
I am aware that each request will be handled on a "case by case" basis, but I do have some questions regarding this exception:
- Does that mean that anyone who is not in any alliance at all at the deadline and subsequently joins my alliance, is eligible to be in the arena? Or do they have to file a petition to be eligible?
- Does that mean that any alliance can continue to recruit for their teams any number of non-allied players?
- What is the deadline for requesting an exception? Please don't let it be another deadline announced after it has already passed.
Also, if someone who was already in my alliance moved their alt from another alliance into my alliance after the deadline passed but before the announcement was made (meaning they joined about 15-16 hours ago lol), is there a good probability that an exception could be made for them?
Thanks! Looking forward to a terrific AT!
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Kadar Yassavi
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:05:00 -
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Where's mah industry dev blog?! |
Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
211
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:08:00 -
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Destoya wrote:Not so sure about the later than usual date, I liked it where it was in the past.
Ya, I know what you mean... the third weekend of the AT falls on Labor Day Weekend in the United States. Five members of my (potential) team have already informed me they won't be available that weekend. Of course, that would assume we make it to the third weekend ;)
While we knew there would be changes (there always is), we'd been tentatively planning that the AT would take place roughly around the same time it took place for the last three years (starting mid to late July). On the other hand... several additional weeks of practice won't hurt, either!
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:34:00 -
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Greygal wrote: That leaves the first stated exception:
The character in question was not in any alliance at the time of the cutoff on April 24th.
I am aware that each request will be handled on a "case by case" basis, but I do have some questions regarding this exception:
Does that mean that anyone who is not in any alliance at all at the deadline and subsequently joins my alliance, is eligible to be in the arena? Or do they have to file a petition to be eligible? Does that mean that any alliance can continue to recruit for their teams any number of non-allied players? What is the deadline for requesting an exception? Please don't let it be another deadline announced after it has already passed.
To be considered for an exception, characters need to meet all three criteria, not just one of them. So alliances cannot recruit random un-allied players after the cutoff.
The criteria for "significant amount of time in this alliance over the past year" will be determined using common sense. So if an alliance is less than a year old we wouldn't try to require pilots to have been in it all year. :) This rule is in place to make it clear that if someone spent a week in "Alliance A" back in June and then spent most of the rest of the year in "Alliance B" we won't be allowing them to use an exception to play for "Alliance A". Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
129
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:38:00 -
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Greygal wrote:stuff about cutoff date Please remember last year the same happened and the cutoff date was earlier. It's not like you couldn't guess this would happen again.
Also i need another tournament winner medal!
Follow me on twitter: @ForlornW Follow my blog: http://crossingzebras.com/author/forlorn-wongraven |
Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:49:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Greygal wrote: That leaves the first stated exception:
The character in question was not in any alliance at the time of the cutoff on April 24th.
I am aware that each request will be handled on a "case by case" basis, but I do have some questions regarding this exception:
Does that mean that anyone who is not in any alliance at all at the deadline and subsequently joins my alliance, is eligible to be in the arena? Or do they have to file a petition to be eligible? Does that mean that any alliance can continue to recruit for their teams any number of non-allied players? What is the deadline for requesting an exception? Please don't let it be another deadline announced after it has already passed.
To be considered for an exception, characters need to meet all three criteria, not just one of them. So alliances cannot recruit random un-allied players after the cutoff. The criteria for "significant amount of time in this alliance over the past year" will be determined using common sense. So if an alliance is less than a year old we wouldn't try to require pilots to have been in it all year. :) This rule is in place to make it clear that if someone spent a week in "Alliance A" back in June and then spent most of the rest of the year in "Alliance B" we won't be allowing them to use an exception to play for "Alliance A".
So my alliance can't make use of the exceptions at all. We're "stuck" with who we have right now. Gotcha.
Forlorn Wongraven wrote: Please remember last year the same happened and the cutoff date was earlier. It's not like you couldn't guess this would happen again.
Yes, I do remember the same thing happened last year, but the cutoff date was LATER by three weeks: The cutoff date last year was May 15th. We figured they'd move it a bit - a week or two at most - figured it wouldn't move earlier than May 1st, but knew there was a risk. Anyways, there are seven people who were joining my alliance this week (one of whom joined after DT but before the announcement) that are now not eligible.
I am fundamentally opposed to deadlines that are not announced in advance of the deadline. They are patently unfair. I agree with the reasons for the deadline, but it doesn't hurt the large and long-established alliances hardly at all, who have many people to draw from and long histories.
It's all good, just motivates my guys to work that much harder to put on a good show, and put up a good fight.
Now I'll start crossing my fingers they do away with the ridiculous "blind" auction this year... likely a futile hope...
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Aliventi
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
682
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:52:00 -
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Quote:Alliance Tournament XII will take place over four consecutive weekends starting on Saturday, August 16th and ending with the grand finale on Sunday, September 7th. Why so late? "tbh most people don't care about removing local from highsec. They want it gone from nullsec. I want to be able to solo roam hunt without everyone knowing I am there without them actually seeing me jump through the gate. Effortless intel is bad." ~Me |
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
129
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:00:00 -
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I stand corrected. However gambling about a cutoff date is really brave when you are into tournaments. Follow me on twitter: @ForlornW Follow my blog: http://crossingzebras.com/author/forlorn-wongraven |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:35:00 -
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I know Greygal has been practicing for the AT with a group of friends, and it would be a kick in her nutts if her practice partners could NOT join her in the AT because they missed the "just sprung" deadline.
Perhaps the Sisi activity records (kills and joining Sisi Corps) could be used to validate teammates? |
Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:44:00 -
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Forlorn Wongraven wrote:I stand corrected. However gambling about a cutoff date is really brave when you are into tournaments.
I play Eve. Gambling is a way of life ;) It was not exactly an intentional gamble, but one of really bad timing.
The seven people that were joining this week are a small corporation that hadn't joined my alliance yet because their CEO has been out of the country for last three weeks and won't be back until Tuesday. Honestly didn't occur to any of us to have them simply drop their corp and join separately.
"Losing" them combined with the third weekend falling on Labor Day Weekend (big U.S. holiday weekend) further reducing the availability of at least five experienced members of my small team ... gah ...
I'm whining some, I know, just ignore me I guess I just want it on the record that unannounced deadlines such as this have a MUCH more negative impact on small and new alliances than the large and old alliances. Considering how much "talk" there seems to be about making the AT and other tournament events more accessible to the smaller and/or newer alliances....
Anyways, like I said, just means we have motivation to work that much harder and my inexperienced team members will have that much more opportunity to be the hero
/whine mode off, time to schedule extra practices
GG
What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal.
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Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
211
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Posted - 2014.04.25 18:47:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:I know Greygal has been practicing for the AT with a group of friends, and it would be a kick in her nutts if her practice partners could NOT join her in the AT because they missed the "just sprung" deadline.
Perhaps the Sisi activity records (kills and joining Sisi Corps) could be used to validate teammates?
Fortunately I don't have nutts... well, except for the "brass balls" my daddy always said I had :)
No, I would not want a special exception like SISI records or anything like that. That would not be fair, and it would be far too extreme an exception, and a pretty big burden on the administration of the exceptions for the GMs.
I just want the exceptions that are in place to be accessible to all alliances. By design - intentionally or not - the exceptions that are in place greatly favor the large and old alliances over the small and new alliances.
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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
188
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:00:00 -
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The concept of an Alliance Tournament is more attractive for me to watch then the New Eden Open, it's great to see a 12th one Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1618
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:03:00 -
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Who cares about industry changes, let's post about thing that will happen AFTER summer. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
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Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:17:00 -
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Greygal wrote:
Yes, I do remember the same thing happened last year, but the cutoff date was LATER by three weeks: The cutoff date last year was May 15th. We figured they'd move it a bit - a week or two at most - figured it wouldn't move earlier than May 1st, but knew there was a risk. Anyways, there are seven people who were joining my alliance this week (one of whom joined after DT but before the announcement) that are now not eligible.
My team got reamed hard by this change last year. Almost half the pilots on the team ended up only being able to fly T1 frigs, kinda makes it hard to put together workable set-ups. Even more so 2 pilots were alts with no skills prior to the tourney announcement. So, we ended up with 2 pilots flying with less then 3 million SP.
That said, you should have been prepared for this. I would have had all of my pilots I wanted in the alliance by February at the latest, December 31st would have been best.. It would not have surprised me to see CCP set the deadline to January 1st.
Last year there was no warning at all. It sucks to be in your situation but, better luck in planning for next year. |
Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
211
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Posted - 2014.04.25 19:28:00 -
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Ashina Sito wrote: My team got reamed hard by this change last year. Almost half the pilots on the team ended up only being able to fly T1 frigs, kinda makes it hard to put together workable set-ups. Even more so 2 pilots were alts with no skills prior to the tourney announcement. So, we ended up with 2 pilots flying with less then 3 million SP.
That said, you should have been prepared for this. I would have had all of my pilots I wanted in the alliance by February at the latest, December 31st would have been best.. It would not have surprised me to see CCP set the deadline to January 1st.
Last year there was no warning at all. It sucks to be in your situation but, better luck in planning for next year.
Like I said, I'm whining some I wasn't able to even start my alliance up till March 2nd, for a variety of reasons I won't bore you with.
I detested the unannounced deadline last year also. Thought it was patently unbalanced then just as I do now; in particular, I thought (and still think) it had zero ability to stop "B" teams from being formed. Of course, last year, I was in a old, established alliance that the team members who were out of alliance at the cutoff were able to get exceptions for without issue.
On the positive side, all my inexperienced members have enough time to train into T2 frigs before August 16th!! (actually most of my inexperienced guys got it trained over the last month). Regardless, I am very much looking forward to and excited for the AT this year. Our enthusiasm is high despite it all, and we'll put on a good show (if we get in!) no matter what!
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Xilia Otsu
The Empty Void
110
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Posted - 2014.04.26 00:31:00 -
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I've got a question about EVE TV's Player Commentator Team: Are only English-speaking commentators needed? I would like to participate, but as a Russian-speaking commentator, Russian community is interested at watching ATXII, and I'm willing to help :) <3 |
Cagali Cagali
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.26 09:51:00 -
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How does one go about advertising their alliance Recruitment during the streams? Is that an option? |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
817
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:02:00 -
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Xilia Otsu wrote:I've got a question about EVE TV's Player Commentator Team: Are only English-speaking commentators needed? I would like to participate, but as a Russian-speaking commentator, Russian community is interested at watching ATXII, and I'm willing to help :)
We are only seeking English-speaking commentators at this time. CCP Gargant | Community Representative | Tournament Referee |
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Midori Tsu
Evolution Northern Coalition.
128
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:13:00 -
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Cagali Cagali wrote:How does one go about advertising their alliance Recruitment during the streams? Is that an option?
If the past is any indicator they will open submissions for ads closer to the tourney, im guessing late July is when that will happen. |
Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
211
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Posted - 2014.05.11 22:45:00 -
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If someone is in the alliance as of the cutoff date, then leaves the alliance, then comes back to the alliance, are they considered eligible for the arena or not?
Thanks!
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