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Jennes Cressen
The Tall Order Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:00:00 -
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I've been enjoying my time ambushing intruders and killing sleepers in wormholes, but incursion running looks like a fun thing I'd like to try in the near future. I only have Gallente and Amarr BS trained to 4 and no large t2 guns, so I feel like I'm a bit of a blank slate. I dont intend on getting into a pirate BS tomorrow and don't want to risk a 1 bil isk hull for my first incursion either, but I thought I'd ask for some advice as to which direction I should train towards. I was leaning towards a Nightmare or Vindcator because I have zero projectile turret skills, but I'm open to any thoughts from more experienced players.
Also, I'm going to be out of town for most of June and was thinking to train one BS skill to V and was again torn between Gallente and Amarr.
note: I've recently been told that it would be best to train minmatar BS to 5 because the vindactor web bonus is the most meaningful, is this a conensus opinion?
Can anybody give me some advice or share some thoughts?
Thanks, Jennes |
Nolen Cadmar
Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:46:00 -
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That is good advice. Here's a website that you can use to browse some fittings used for incursions. At the top, click fittings.
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Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.26 11:56:00 -
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Many channels do take T1 BS with T1 guns.
Minmatar BS got a huge effect on the web strength.
Shield progression path would be megathron -> vindicator, apoc -> nightmare for most HQ shield channels.
As for armor you have a few more options with the navy geddon(utilizing the sentry skills), NM(expensive in a good armor fitting) and the Paladin. For Gallente Domi/Hype as mixed sentry/hybrid platforms are fairly effective during the progression towards the vindicator. Also while most people think the mach and vindi are the only ships that utilize minmatar BS, the fleet phoon can be extreme effective if you can combine missile, sentry and projectile skills(however I am not aware of any other channel beside OIC that utilizes them).
Logistic cruisers are also a good options to get started, or T3 cruisers(mostly for armor Incursions). |
Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.04.26 12:32:00 -
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The valhalla project will take mostly anyone (back when i was an incursion runner). I'm unsure of the faction BS changes will impact this, but the ISN (incursion Shiny Network) will only take Nightmares and Machariels with a small wing of Vindicators for killing the faster cruisers and frigs.
Minmatar BS is a good one to train, since it will instantly give you 2 out of 3 of those BS to fly.
I also can't stress this enough: Get T2 guns and max out the support skills for gunnery. Things like Sharpshooter, Rapid Firing, motion Prediction, surgical Strike, Trajectory Analysis are all amazing to have at level 5.
Also level 4 in the guns specialisation means another 8% damage for just having T2 mods.
These are all boring skills that are perfect to train while your not playing eve, since the lure of flying a new ship can be too great to resist when you are actively playing. |
Jennes Cressen
The Tall Order Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.04.28 08:24:00 -
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So are Nightmares and Vindicators equally in-demand? Or is it usually easier to get into a fleet with one or the other? |
Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.04.28 09:01:00 -
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Jennes Cressen wrote:So are Nightmares and Vindicators equally in-demand? Or is it usually easier to get into a fleet with one or the other?
Maeltstome wrote:will only take Nightmares and Machariels with a small wing of Vindicators for killing the faster cruisers and frigs.
Small wing = Small wing... Arty Mach's where (when i ran them) the absolute numerical core of the group. Nightmares second, Vindicators in the far distance as a third.
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Only 1 vindicator wasn't uncommon - the 'Drone Bunny'. Designed to 90% web a target and let and entire fleets drones kill the target while assisting him. |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:54:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Jennes Cressen wrote:So are Nightmares and Vindicators equally in-demand? Or is it usually easier to get into a fleet with one or the other? Maeltstome wrote:will only take Nightmares and Machariels with a small wing of Vindicators for killing the faster cruisers and frigs. Small wing = Small wing... Arty Mach's where (when i ran them) the absolute numerical core of the group. Nightmares second, Vindicators in the far distance as a third. EDIT* Only 1 vindicator wasn't uncommon - the 'Drone Bunny'. Designed to 90% web a target and let and entire fleets drones kill the target while assisting him.
To add to this, what gets in fleet is dependant of who/what is online. If there are no sniper trying to get in fleet with open sniper spots, they will get in fast. Same for Vindis. There are more sniper spots total in a fleet but everybody and their mother has a Mach to use for that. Try to fly something you like because it gets repetitive quite fast after you learned all the sites.
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elise densi
New Eden trading and Capital Building
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:45:00 -
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both nightmares and vindis are high wanted in shield fleets and more so in summer exp with nightmare buffs
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elise densi
New Eden trading and Capital Building
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Posted - 2014.04.29 10:46:00 -
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also nightmare has lasers |
Talia Valta
Valta Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.29 11:11:00 -
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Hey all,
I was going to ask similar questions in game tonight but this has helped a great deal. +1 to the OP.
I have another char who can fly Gallente Battleships and is training for Hybrid t2's, only another 6 weeks lol.
In the meantime, I'd like to get into Incursions to make some Serious ISK.
I'll join The Valhalla Project when I'm in game tonight before asking any more questions.
Thanks again for the help.
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