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Chaz Sievek
Donkey Infection
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:59:00 -
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Has anybody else noticed these guys fly with personality? They perform lots of barrel rolls and other evasives :)
I've moved mine to the drone group "Mercenary" |
Jinx Jameson
Absolutely Priceless
2
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:05:00 -
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If I resub now would I still get the 3 drones as a gift? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5832
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:08:00 -
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Jinx Jameson wrote:If I resub now would I still get the 3 drones as a gift?
For the next 5 hours and change, I think so.
Don't quote me on it. But you might want to have a look at the reddit thread for it, they said they were going to experiment. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3474
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:23:00 -
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Chaz Sievek wrote:Has anybody else noticed these guys fly with personality? They perform lots of barrel rolls and other evasives :) I've moved mine to the drone group "Mercenary" Yeah, they're a riot to watch in action. The markings on the Gecko are pretty hilarious, too ("ED-209"). I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
14356
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:55:00 -
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wait... they do/for real?
all they need is a "set name" function
primary is Alvin, Alvin, Alvin is primary secondary Simon, secondary Simon
jk i'm being dumb President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
Adunh Slavy
1387
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:05:00 -
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Obvious tie in to Valkryie.
Maybe one day, you can carry a pilot around in your bay, then launch him and he can go fly around and then dock with your ship.
Oooo. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
Chaz Sievek
Donkey Infection
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:40:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Obvious tie in to Valkryie.
Maybe one day, you can carry a pilot around in your bay, then launch him and he can go fly around and then dock with your ship.
Oooo.
I don't think anybody wants to be anybody's "standby" |
Ken 1138
Sombra's Shadow
103
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:57:00 -
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Can some one post all the base stats for the gecko? |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
714
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Posted - 2014.05.07 01:01:00 -
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Ken 1138 wrote:Can some one post all the base stats for the gecko?
http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats1.png
http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats2.png
http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/gecko-stats3.png
Note: If the proposed new rattlesnake 3.75 damage and HP role bonus is allowed to apply to the gecko its going to make an amazing brawler combo. |
Salvo Aivo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.05.07 02:27:00 -
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It will. I forget where I heard/read it but CCP directly mentioned the gecko and RS making a beautiful lovechild. |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
716
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:10:00 -
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Salvo Aivo wrote:It will. I forget where I heard/read it but CCP directly mentioned the gecko and RS making a beautiful lovechild.
yeah,
Rattlesnake + Geckos + RHML looks like being the combo to beat |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4868
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:45:00 -
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Hey there's a little dude in these things. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9580
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Posted - 2014.05.07 04:54:00 -
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Rattlesnake will only have 50 mbps bandwidth so it can only launch one Gecko. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Linkxsc162534
Traps 'R' Us Advanced Amateurs
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Posted - 2014.05.07 05:28:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Rattlesnake will only have 50 mbps bandwidth so it can only launch one Gecko. Although one Gecko plus 275% HP and DPS still pretty nasty.
Cant wait. Cause there is the added bonus. If you mwd your rattler so you can keep up with the drone. You can keep a rep on it while still being close for rhml/torp dps.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
717
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Posted - 2014.05.07 06:05:00 -
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Linkxsc162534 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Rattlesnake will only have 50 mbps bandwidth so it can only launch one Gecko. Although one Gecko plus 275% HP and DPS still pretty nasty. Cant wait. Cause there is the added bonus. If you mwd your rattler so you can keep up with the drone. You can keep a rep on it while still being close for rhml/torp dps.
Yep and with that set up you no longer need DLAs so you can fit all 5 launcher slots with rage RHML. Plus your moving so the rattler will take less damage.
5 * Rage RHML or Torp @ 50% damage bonus + Gecko @ 275% damage bonus + 3 DDA + 3 BCU could make for an interesting boat. |
Marzuq
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
36
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Posted - 2014.05.07 06:07:00 -
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Linkxsc162534 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Rattlesnake will only have 50 mbps bandwidth so it can only launch one Gecko. Although one Gecko plus 275% HP and DPS still pretty nasty. Cant wait. Cause there is the added bonus. If you mwd your rattler so you can keep up with the drone. You can keep a rep on it while still being close for rhml/torp dps.
The Gecko can move atleast 2200 ms, good luck trying to keep up with it in a rattlesnake.
Quick someone make a fit.
I imagine faction Damage Augments for starters, faction Drone Nav Computer and omni. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4871
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:30:00 -
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A Cyclone will be able to field one of these and has judicious low slots for drone damage boost. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Linkxsc162534
Traps 'R' Us Advanced Amateurs
64
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:32:00 -
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Marzuq wrote:
The Gecko can move atleast 2200 ms, good luck trying to keep up with it in a rattlesnake.
Quick someone make a fit.
I imagine faction Damage Augments for starters, faction Drone Nav Computer and omni.
TLDR ~870 dps with gecko and torps, 730 with RHML and gecko. Still the tankyest subcap I know of.
Well if my math is right (based on current drone skills being maxed) 32(per damage type)x4x2.05(base Dam Mod)*2.5(the total difference when all ur drone skills maxed) = 656 volley from 1 of them on an unbonused ship. /4 for the refire rate. a single gecko is pushing out ~164 dps (not bad) *2.75 for the rattlesnake bonus, and you looking at a drone with a 1804 volley at 421 dps. BEFORE damage mods. Then assuming T2 launchers with javeline torps (though RHMLs would probably be a more appropriate weapon system) Current rattle (no damage bonus) with 4 of them is, 225dps from launchers. = 56.25dps per launcher, * 5 = 281.25*1.5(for kin or therm with l5 gallante bs) = 421.875dps from launchers before mods
So... long story short, before damage upgrades, your looking at ~870dps/paper from just a base fitting... However torps have crap applied dps, and with no range bonus your gonna need to chase to get in range for that dps. Also the drone has travel time. RHML sustained (accounting for reload time) gets you ~730 dps (280 from launchers, makes you want to drone upgrade more but will have great application/range)
I don't know all the math for stacking penalties and such so I won't delve into module BS, but that shoudl give you a rough estimate of whats going on, damage wise. It didn't lose any mid or lows, so it shouldn't be losing its amazing tank. And though it doesn't get bonused for them, it can still carry a full wing of lights and meds into combat.
Technically, the bonus it has should also support light missiles/RLMs if your... say you were using it as a ratter, and wanted the ability to take out a scramming frig, before his buddies arrived. Also can carry a heavy neut, for anti tackle.
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TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises Intrepid Crossing
182
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:50:00 -
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Anyone know why one of my accounts did not receive the 3 geckos? |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
234
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:52:00 -
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Decided to try one out. First L4 out of the box. Socket closed. -1 Gecko (2 medium drones survived.) Hurray! |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1306
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:01:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hey there's a little dude in these things. You have to name them now. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
14365
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:12:00 -
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I wish President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1483
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:26:00 -
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Mine call themselves Atos, Portos and Aramis. Strange names if you ask me, I think I have heard them before... When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:03:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Mine call themselves Atos, Portos and Aramis. Strange names if you ask me, I think I have heard them before... Apparently your drones have a lisp ("have lisps?"), or perhaps the "h" key is defective on your keyboard. (Athos, Porthos)
MDD |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1483
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:21:00 -
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No, no , its Atos and Portos. Why would you throw h there? When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif |
MailDeadDrop
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
312
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:29:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:No, no , its Atos and Portos. Why would you throw h there? Why? Because I interpreted your statement "I think I have heard them before" as an allusion to Alexander Dumas' The Three Musketeers. In that novel, the main character names are Athos, Porthos, and Aramis (along with d'Artagnan). Is this not the reference you intended?
MDD |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1483
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:42:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:No, no , its Atos and Portos. Why would you throw h there? Why? Because I interpreted your statement "I think I have heard them before" as an allusion to Alexander Dumas' The Three Musketeers. In that novel, the main character names are Athos, Porthos, and Aramis (along with the d'Artagnan). Is this not the reference you intended? MDD
What? Alexander seems much like Gallente to me, I can't see that novel on Jita market, maybe in Dodixie... As I know nothing about Gallente stuff, I will ask them about it. Thanks. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues.
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Daario Nosha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:56:00 -
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Linkxsc162534 wrote:[quote=Marzuq]
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NOTE: This is assuming that Gecko receives the buffs to base damage along with the other heavies in Kronos to balance the change to Drone interfacing.
Rattlesnake bonus come Kronos is +275% which is a x3.75 multiplier not a x2.75. The base Rattlesnake Gecko DPS is therefore 615 with 2460 alpha. Assuming Faction DDAs are 25% each we get a stacking bonus that comes to roughly 1.86 with 4 of them. This puts the rough DPS at 1143.9 with alpha of 4575.6 with 4 faction DDAs. EHP with Drone Durability Rigs (1xT2 and 2xT1) is 49,400 average with around 20 shield HP/s
If they don't get the damage increase then it works out to 461DPS base and 861DPS with 4 faction DDAs. EHP remains the same. For comparison 2x Ogre 2 will have more dps than a Gecko due to benefiting from T2 skill bonus.
Because this is a HUUUGE difference I would love confirmation one way or the other from CCP because Launching a cruiser from within a battleship seems bonkers fun. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1301
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Posted - 2014.05.07 18:54:00 -
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It's still short-sighted with regards to DPS distribution from the rattlesnake
Drone DPS Pre-Kronos - 20% per drone Post-Kronos - 50% per drone post-kronos Gecko - 100%
And before or the fanboi's come raging in about the massive HP buff drones will get Drones are still highly vulnerable to webbing & smartbombs now, and they will be afterwards as well guns/missiles ... not so much
I know this has been done from a purely pvp based aspect .. because 'server loads' CCP can coat it with as much sugar as they like as changes go it's still a turd. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
556
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Posted - 2014.05.07 19:04:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:And before or the fanboi's come raging in about the massive HP buff drones will get Drones are still highly vulnerable to webbing & smartbombs now, and they will be afterwards as well guns/missiles ... not so much Considering that an enemy has decided to focus his efforts and modules on a single, replaceable drone that can be easily recalled within brawling ranges (which is the new area for this ship) I'd say its a win for the user. If an enemy is going to try and kill my cruiser-like drone instead of trying to kill the RHML/Cruise/Torp BS that is tearing him a new one and then pounding him in it...I say let him do it. |
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