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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:27:00 -
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Hello everyone!
In the upcoming Summer release we are making a lot of changes that we expect will impact player behavior surrounding manufacturing, mining and starbase use. We see an opportunity here to make some adjustments to the way that Jump Drives consume their isotope fuel that will hit a few birds with one stone.
The goals of this change are:
- Stimulate the isotope (and therefore ice) market to help cushion any drop in demand from players using smaller starbases after the science and industry slot changes.
- Help encourage cost competitiveness for local resource gathering in nullsec.
- Although we don't expect this change to significantly impact behavior around jump drive power projection, it should at least provide a small incentive change through higher costs for moving huge capital fleets often.
The plan for this release is to start with a 50% increase in the fuel cost of all jump drives and jump portals, and adjust further if necessary once we see the results. This change applies both the the base consumption of ship based jump drives, as well as the isotope consumption per kg of mass on all jump bridges and portals.
We will also be increasing the fuel bays on all jump capable ships (and the fuel storage on starbase jump bridge arrays) by 50% (60% for Black Ops Battleships) so that they do not need to refuel more often.
For reference, this will increase the cost of running a max skilled Rhea from Jita to RIT-A7 (jump drive transit the whole way) from ~50m isk to ~75m isk. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:29:00 -
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Interesting, quite the first hike at 50%
Also: first |
Antoine Jordan
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
103
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:33:00 -
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Are you doing anything for carriers, who often carry a large part of their fuel in their corporate hangar, or is it intended that they won't be able to go as far without refueling after this change? |
iskflakes
908
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:33:00 -
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Supercapitals which have to store fuel in their fleet hangars because their fuel bays are too limited will get hit pretty hard by this. - |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
342
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:33:00 -
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Rip dreads. |
BadAssMcKill
ElitistOps
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:34:00 -
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Jesus no
Stop it . |
Eno Ishikela
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:35:00 -
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Thanks for nerfing small alliances. |
Khador Vess
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
187
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:35:00 -
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Can we get a corresponding cargo bay tweak for BLOPS as well please because one fuel bay aint enough and the extra 10% still puts blops at a disadvantage. I used to have a forum sig, but CCP SocksFour stole it.... |
iskflakes
908
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:35:00 -
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WarFireV wrote:Rip dreads.
Apart from the increased price they benefit from this, they will just get more stront for equivalent jump distance. - |
Blodhgarm Dethahal
Transcendent Sedition Dustm3n
107
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:36:00 -
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I think I may buy a few Isotopes.. -Bl+¦d
http://bloodytravels.blogspot.com/ -á-- My travels through space. |
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Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
349
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:36:00 -
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Isnt that change harming smaller corps while big corps care as much much as they do now? Only for the sake of higher income for Ice producer/minier? Support Comet Mining! |
David Magnus
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:36:00 -
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Antoine Jordan wrote:Are you doing anything for carriers, who often carry a large part of their fuel in their corporate hangar, or is it intended that they won't be able to go as far without refueling after this change?
This is a great question. http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/fight-us-maybe http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/winterupdate http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/supercaps http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/pandemiclegion |
Marketing Chairman Stalin
Space Marketing Department GoonSwarm
31
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:38:00 -
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Eno Ishikela wrote:Thanks for nerfing small alliances.
I DONT CARE CUS IM NOT A POOR LOLOL |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
444
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:38:00 -
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Just WTF?! |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
1351
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:39:00 -
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brb, buying ice GRRR Goons |
Tubrug1
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
471
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:39:00 -
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So you're not tackling the real issue involving jump drives which is power projection? Writer of The Eve Onion http://eveion.blogspot.co.uk/
I have a Twitter |
penifSMASH
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
379
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:39:00 -
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Can you double the base amount of liquid ozone consumption for lighting a cyno |
Powers Sa
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:40:00 -
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50% ?? Could you please review a possible blops bonus on fuel consupmtion? This will really change how I do a monthly long floating (in space) deployment. lol |
Marketing Chairman Stalin
Space Marketing Department GoonSwarm
31
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:40:00 -
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Tubrug1 wrote:So you're not tackling the real issue involving jump drives which is power projection?
I wish you'd tackle the real issue of being in a non-existent alliance l0l |
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
594
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:40:00 -
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Here's a crazy thought... Remove all the jump fuel from Hisec. If all the jump fuel had to be sourced from 0.0 and lowsec, and the different racial variants were only found in specific regions... the space you control would directly determine which racial jump drives you could fuel and therefore what capital ships you could field.
That would undoubtedly cause utter chaos and a massive uproar so you might have to introduce some sort of "generic" jump fuel that can be found everywhere, but has a lower efficiency e.g. you need more of it to make the same jump. Fleet Bookmarks New Gravimetric Sites Med Clones 2.0 |
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Marketing Chairman Stalin
Space Marketing Department GoonSwarm
31
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:41:00 -
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penifSMASH wrote:Can you double the base amount of liquid ozone consumption for lighting a cyno
reduce all frigate cargoholds by 200% to compensate |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
450
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:41:00 -
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Interesting change. Probably the most interesting part is the echo effect in Jump Freighters -- it's going to increase the costs for people building (slash living) in nullsec due to their reliance on said. I'm assuming that was intentional. This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
penifSMASH
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
379
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:41:00 -
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Will you be increasing the size of fleet hangars, since that's where most fuel is kept?
What about increasing the cargo size of black ops? Many people use cargo-expanded and rigged Black Ops to bridge around covert fleets and most of the fuel for that is kept in the cargo. |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
565
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:42:00 -
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penifSMASH wrote:Can you double the base amount of liquid ozone consumption for lighting a cyno
Pretty please. "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
Moving pictures |
ForceM
POS Builder Inc. Silent Requiem
8
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:43:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hello everyone!
We will also be increasing the fuel bays on all jump capable ships (and the fuel storage on starbase jump bridge arrays) by 50% (60% for Black Ops Battleships) so that they do not need to refuel much more often.[/b]
WTF!!!
You got no idea how annoyingly small the fuel bay of a black ops is and your nerfing it with a total of 20% now. This is ****** up tbh. That measly 10% over the rest is just shy an ounce of an insult.
Your tweet about starting a controversy is correct .... no beer or you.
ForceM
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penifSMASH
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
379
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:43:00 -
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Swiftstrike1 wrote:Here's a crazy thought... Remove all the jump fuel from Hisec. If all the jump fuel had to be sourced from 0.0 and lowsec, and the different racial variants were only found in specific regions... the space you control would directly determine which racial jump drives you could fuel and therefore what capital ships you could field.
That would undoubtedly cause utter chaos and a massive uproar so you might have to introduce some sort of "generic" jump fuel that can be found everywhere, but has a lower efficiency e.g. you need more of it to make the same jump.
Here's a crazy thought... stop making bad suggestions? |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1440
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:44:00 -
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RIP affordable T2 heh "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart." -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Peter Powers
Terrorists of Dimensions Free 2 Play
225
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:44:00 -
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let me update your list a bit
CCP Fozzie wrote:
- Stimulate the isotope (and therefore ice) market to help cushion any drop in demand from players using smaller starbases after the science and industry slot changes.
- Help encourage cost competitiveness for local resource gathering in nullsec.
- screw over everyone producing in lowsec, as prices are even less competative to highsec than before due to the raising transport cost of resources to low, and produced goods to highsec, as well as the higher costs of transporting fuel etc.
CCP Fozzie wrote:
- Although we don't expect this change to significantly impact behavior around jump drive power projection, it should at least provide a small incentive change through higher costs for moving huge capital fleets often.
Translation: The huge rich alliances get a minor nerf to their fleets that they probably care less about, while lesser rich entities, (small capital heavy corps, jumpfreighter services, roaming blackops gangs) get the shortstick...
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1519
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:45:00 -
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Cool, but not sure cost changes will do much |
Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
200
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Posted - 2014.04.29 13:45:00 -
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oh dear. Now we need to have fuel bay expander rigs, or much larger fuel bays to start with.
Until then, o7 to your bridge Widow and Sin. |
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