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Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:28:00 -
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Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more! High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1119
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:59:00 -
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I am glad to see 'Operation Content Removal' is working so well that the Gallente are resorting to this.
Docked since 2009. |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
321
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Posted - 2014.04.30 23:31:00 -
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This would have been interesting to see back in 2009 when both militia's were at their true hight and not a meer shadow of what they are now. And from what i remember back then the amarr did frequently fight the gals. it was pretty funny seeing the pure domi fleet (gals) fighting the pure abaddon fleet (amarr)
but now both militia's are so drastically different this just wouldnt be intresting. if its gonna come to large scale hac fleets there is no doubt in my mind that your side would easily crush because gals have way more pilots to grab from, why just one of your home systems has regularly 40-60 people online. i think our warzone has like 40-60 people doing anything. |
Capitol One
Snuff Box
142
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Posted - 2014.05.01 00:13:00 -
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You can do it!
Amarr victor o7o7 |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
373
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Posted - 2014.05.01 00:54:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:... why just one of your home systems has regularly 40-60 people online. i think our warzone has like 40-60 people doing anything.
Which home system is this? Mine is usually full of squids, waffles and booster alts. I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
723
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Posted - 2014.05.01 02:15:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:This would have been interesting to see back in 2009 when both militia's were at their true hight and not a meer shadow of what they are now. And from what i remember back then the amarr did frequently fight the gals. it was pretty funny seeing the pure domi fleet (gals) fighting the pure abaddon fleet (amarr)
but now both militia's are so drastically different this just wouldnt be intresting. if its gonna come to large scale hac fleets there is no doubt in my mind that your side would easily crush because gals have way more pilots to grab from, why just one of your home systems has regularly 40-60 people online. i think our warzone has like 40-60 people doing anything.
We're no where near the numbers you think especially in the age of attrition warfare where some people can't get out of a meta fit frigate. Most of us are scattered across numerous home systems and a 40 man fleet isn't something we're capable of. I'd say 10-20 hac fleet is doable. 15-30 t1 cruisers is doable on weekends.
Dream doctrine fleet fights;
VNIs vs Aug Navies Ishtars vs Sacs Sentry Domis vs Apocs
Get those station spinners out of Egg and get DCM spewing his usual ******** smack up here. JUSTK will pay the JF bill for you guys to move to Heyd :) I wanna see what the "best of Amarr" has to offer.
Let's do this High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
321
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Posted - 2014.05.01 02:27:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:This would have been interesting to see back in 2009 when both militia's were at their true hight and not a meer shadow of what they are now. And from what i remember back then the amarr did frequently fight the gals. it was pretty funny seeing the pure domi fleet (gals) fighting the pure abaddon fleet (amarr)
but now both militia's are so drastically different this just wouldnt be intresting. if its gonna come to large scale hac fleets there is no doubt in my mind that your side would easily crush because gals have way more pilots to grab from, why just one of your home systems has regularly 40-60 people online. i think our warzone has like 40-60 people doing anything. We're no where near the numbers you think especially in the age of attrition warfare where some people can't get out of a meta fit frigate. Most of us are scattered across numerous home systems and a 40 man fleet isn't something we're capable of. I'd say 10-20 hac fleet is doable. 15-30 t1 cruisers is doable on weekends. Dream doctrine fleet fights; VNIs vs Aug Navies Ishtars vs Sacs Sentry Domis vs Apocs Get those station spinners out of Egg and get DCM spewing his usual ******** smack up here. JUSTK will pay the JF bill for you guys to move to Heyd :) I wanna see what the "best of Amarr" has to offer. Let's do this im afraid team amarrica is on a permanent break as far as FW goes. We have had our fill. due to many RL issues among the leadership and many getting PO'ed seeing ccp not willing to fix basic FW crap, any scale operations in the future are pretty much over for us.
We were contemplating heading up to cal/gal space, but in the end it boiled down to RL interfering with most of the leadership. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
358
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Posted - 2014.05.01 18:04:00 -
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I guess we will have to content ourselves with neutrals, pirates, and the occassional squid gangs. Damn, I better store up some clone tags. |
Plato Forko
Of Questionable Lineage
59
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Posted - 2014.05.01 19:42:00 -
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well we don't need to hear about it, just do it My terribad blog where I QQ and rage about Amarr FW |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Heiian Conglomerate
759
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:43:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!
sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning. |
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
882
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:58:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more! sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.
Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Heiian Conglomerate
760
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:10:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more! sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning. Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.
why to fight fights that has no real meaning on anything. No wonder you have no opposition because the big fights are not the thing in fw.
in the past fw there has been several entities who had power full fleet who could engage and win almost anything, sadly those have no use in fw so they moved on, maybe it is time for you to move on too... |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1271
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:25:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more! sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning. Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.
So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine.
It seems like people are "bored" and turning to the forums to try to arrange fights with a militia on the other side of new eden. Is this considered fw "fights and content" we should all be so thrilled about? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Heiian Conglomerate
761
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:40:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more! sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning. Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates. So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine. It seems like people are "bored" and turning to the forums to try to arrange fights with a militia on the other side of new eden. Is this considered fw "fights and content" we should all be so thrilled about?
this is how fw was at the beginning when there was no special rewards from anything, but then CCP turned FW to isk farm and now we have current Farm Wars edition. Best farmer will win until isk tide turns and other side makes better isk.
To find any other meaning for fw is just same than example RvB but saying it is goal in EVE is just your own goal not for all. |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
323
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:58:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more! sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning. Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates. controlling occupancy is winning FW. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1466
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:03:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more! sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning. Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates. sadly my LP reward for killing FW enemies depends of occupancy levels => FW farmers affect my rewards The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1272
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:42:00 -
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Well IMO occupancy is what we are fighting for. The design intent is clear based on how rewards are given. The fact that everyone tends to ignore occupancy and think its somehow irrelevant, shows something is fundamentally off.
That's not to say that fw isn't great in other respects. It is. If people want to arrange fights from time to time its fine, and not necessarily proof anything is broken. But I don't think we should pretend that everything is working as intended either.
It's quite easy to have other things in real life take a priority over faction war. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
173
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Posted - 2014.05.01 22:48:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Deen Wispa wrote:Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?
That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more! sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning. Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates. controlling occupancy is winning FW.
Not quite...controlling home systems is 'winning' FW...if you can even call it that...
Who gives a rats ass about non-station systems or other systems that do not matter. The only system that really matters is the one you call home. The rest is Farmville garbage.
This douchery of occupancy is what is wrong in the first place... |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1923
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:48:00 -
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mmm... time to fire up the farming alts again. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
882
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:59:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Bitterness
I get fights all the time. Fun still seems to be available. The old faction war died before any changes were made, no point shouting its virtues.
Cearain wrote:Mal adjustment
No, i think content should be the primary content. As in flying ships, not what some faction window says. Fights are what were fighting for.
Flyinghotpocket wrote:Roleplaying
If you like lol. Sounds kinda silly.
March rabbit wrote:I need to farm
Your time will come and come again, that is the beauty of the current system. |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2183
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Posted - 2014.05.02 00:45:00 -
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Cearain wrote: So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine.
We already won.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2183
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Posted - 2014.05.02 01:10:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Well IMO occupancy is what we are fighting for. We? |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1272
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Posted - 2014.05.02 01:13:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote: So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine.
We already won.
The Caldari already won. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
326
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Posted - 2014.05.02 01:14:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:says facts If you like lol. Sounds kinda silly.
clean the down syndrome from your eyes and wake up. controlling occupancy is winning fw period |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2183
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Posted - 2014.05.02 01:17:00 -
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Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote: So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine.
We already won. The Caldari already won. You didn't.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
883
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Posted - 2014.05.02 01:21:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:says facts If you like lol. Sounds kinda silly. clean the down syndrome from your eyes and wake up. controlling occupancy is winning fw period
Occupancy is a content driver, not content. Only the autistic could confuse this. |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
326
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Posted - 2014.05.02 01:23:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:says facts If you like lol. Sounds kinda silly. clean the down syndrome from your eyes and wake up. controlling occupancy is winning fw period Occupancy is a content driver, not content. Only the autistic could confuse this. pointless information is pointless |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
883
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Posted - 2014.05.02 01:35:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Flyinghotpocket wrote:says facts If you like lol. Sounds kinda silly. clean the down syndrome from your eyes and wake up. controlling occupancy is winning fw period Occupancy is a content driver, not content. Only the autistic could confuse this. pointless information is pointless
Information is information |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1272
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Posted - 2014.05.02 02:27:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote: So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine.
We already won. The Caldari already won. You didn't.
That's true. I never won or lost. Actually to say someone won or lost suggests the war is over. It's not. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
883
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Posted - 2014.05.02 02:46:00 -
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Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote: So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine.
We already won. The Caldari already won. You didn't. That's true. I never won or lost. Actually to say someone won or lost suggests the war is over. It's not.
Suddenly occupancy in itself doesnt seem so important, right? |
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