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cpt wierdface
THE SILENT SHEPHERDS Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.01 16:40:00 -
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NPE is incredibly demanding. I put the effort into this game and feel like ive only just scrapped the ice. In eve, i dont go 5-10 minutes without asking for a description about certain factors of the game.
The main deterrent, is going into ISIS and checking those requirement timers. I do not start a new game, thinking "Okay im going to absolutely master this over the next 10 years of my life".
Either introduce 50x more content to fill in the 40 days of nothingness waiting for an exhumer .... or increase the number of skills trainable at once to 3. Regardless of what i do in this game, i dont think i can stick out the same old routine with almost no change.
That, or provide a list with literally all possible activities a "new" player can try. cause all i can see, is mining and level 1 missions. Try and tell me that is appealing for 1 month.
If you guys have reservations towards this thread, then feel free to express them. |
Serra Ame
Outer Rim Jobs and Exploration
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Posted - 2014.05.01 17:32:00 -
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Get in a frigate and do anything but mining. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2014.05.01 20:01:00 -
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Well you are in a corp, now join them in a few roames in cheap frigs. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.01 23:35:00 -
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There's 50x more to Eve than flying an Exhumer. That has to be the most boring goal ever! |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.02 06:17:00 -
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There's over 3000 solar systems in eve. Over 200 ships if I recall Wardecs Merc work Faction Wars Piracy Missions Mining Manufacturing Trading Exploration Ratting Freighter/contract services Jita scamming Something like 60 members in your corp Hundreds in your alliance Evemon EFT Battleclinic Evelopedia PYFA
How much more content do you want?
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2014.05.02 06:46:00 -
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I want my exhumer and I want it NAO! I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
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Posted - 2014.05.02 07:10:00 -
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http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
At a quick glance I see a whole bunch of activities that a newbie can engage in with a minimal amount of training (5-20 hours). Do note that it is not required to have skills at level 5 for them to be useable.
RavenPaine wrote:There's over 3000 solar systems in eve.
Around 6500 but for the death of me I can't remember if that number includes the WH systems or not.
RavenPaine wrote:Over 200 ships if I recall
318 to be precise (I have a spreadsheet for that, a by product of the ship collecting hobby). Although, granted, there are quite many that are difficult to obtain.
RavenPaine wrote:How much more content do you want?
I have a sinking feeling he is looking for a traditional MMO handholding experience. Makes me wonder how he ended up in DNS. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1656
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Posted - 2014.05.02 07:11:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:I have a sinking feeling he is looking for a traditional MMO handholding experience. Makes me wonder how he ended up in DNS.
One of their Dust bunnies got confused?
I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Royce Kado
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:46:00 -
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yup....EVE is hard
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:50:00 -
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I did the same thing on my first pilot... I wanted a Hulk! After what seemed like FOREVER I got one and was so happy. Two hours of mining and ummm.... This is boring! |
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Titan Andronicus
Rookie Mission Tax Haven
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:50:00 -
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cpt wierdface wrote: If you guys have reservations towards this thread, then feel free to express them.
Ah ha! So you're trolling?
I'm a lot younger than you are, and I've been constantly educating myself about EVE.
I've found that it is very easy to start as a new character, but difficult as a brand new player to find a career direction without a mentor or sponsor (friend/family IRL) because EVE is so huge and there are multiple paths to enrichment.
The skills that your character starts out learning are very basic and take hardly any time.
The Aura tutorials cover the basic interface (not the overview) very well, and the career agents are good for the basics.
I wish there were advanced tutorials for a) advanced exploration, like scanning down wormhole points and finding player ships in deadspace, but the first I did myself (took a while) and the second I'll come to; and b) Planetary Interaction. When I first heard about this in game my response was "huh?"
There are great community resources, but with the constant tweaks, such as the upcoming changes to industry and reprocessing, some of the older guides out there won't be any help for new players, and the lack of an official manual does concern me.
I got into mining because of all the old forum post and help guides saying how easy it was to get into and how profitable it could be. They don't tell you how boring it is or to what end you're doing it.
What I like about EVE is that it has both depth and breadth. If I get bored doing one thing I can do something else instead. Like I found a product which was easy to manufacture, cheap to make and yielded good profits. I read blogs (well, two) and got some excellent pointers for trading.
If you want something to do whilst training skills before your character is any damn good at anything, the best suggestion I read was to re-do the career missions for the same faction, available from the other two schools, as the faction standings gain is a good investment. By the time you've finished you should have the necessary standings to start level 3 missions.
Fly safe! |
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:18:00 -
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cpt wierdface wrote: "Okay im going to absolutely master this over the next 10 years of my life".
actually that was the direction of my thinking when i started with eve. You just dont start eve thinking ill hop into spaceship for a few minutes to chill while blowing stuff up. No matter how everyone is trying to look it that way that luckily is not eve. We dont need "world of spaceships". |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.02 22:53:00 -
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cpt wierdface wrote: Either introduce 50x more content to fill in the 40 days of nothingness waiting for an exhumer ....
What exactly do you think will you be able to do with the exhumer that you can't already do with a venture/mining barge? I can assure you: mining in an exhumer is just as boring as doing it in a venture: You activate the mining lasers and wait until the ore hold is filled up. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:42:00 -
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I trained exhumers, I can T2 fit it and use T2 crystals.
by far I can tell you it's the worst thing I've ever trained there is nothing in there which benefits anything else other then mining, also it's repetitive and boring fast.. if you are bored in venture shooting rocks don't train exhumers they are same thing with bigger numbers. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1958
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:46:00 -
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ok here is how you mine properly:
1. get a powerful PC and at least three screens 2. start up at least six accounts 3. buy an orca booster char and a frighter char 4. train up mining chars on the remaining accounts 5. as soon as your mining chars can fly T1 fitted procurers, log in all of them, form a fleet and start mining out entire systems. (your orca booster is FC, your feighter hauls and the miners mine for hours straight).
if this play style does not sound interesting to you, you should not be mining.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
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Posted - 2014.05.10 08:00:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:RavenPaine wrote:There's over 3000 solar systems in eve. Around 6500 but for the death of me I can't remember if that number includes the WH systems or not.
7,929 including the 230 Jove systems. 5431 k-space, 2498 w-space |
Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.10 22:29:00 -
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Serra Ame wrote:Get in a frigate and do anything but mining.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!" |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.05.11 23:22:00 -
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8/10
Damn good job. |
Garak n00biachi
Capital Destruction Brig Consortium
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Posted - 2014.05.14 20:28:00 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Sable Moran wrote:RavenPaine wrote:There's over 3000 solar systems in eve. Around 6500 but for the death of me I can't remember if that number includes the WH systems or not. 7,929 including the 230 Jove systems. 5431 k-space, 2498 w-space
Really that many w-space, there must be at least 2k of them empty? never knew there were that many 0.o always wanted to live in one but im too ***** :( |
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