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Tarn Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:08:00 -
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Grow up We know this is what you wanted and CCP is making the right decision, but there are a lot of people who invested a lot of time and money into Dust. If the next update for EVE required you to start over at 0 SP on your main how would you feel? Cheated? Scammed? I look forward to Legion, it's the game we've been waiting for, but CCP said the dream would be on PS3 only, and a lot of people stuck around just because of the promise of "10 years of support" Be happy, a New Eden fps is coming, but please stop mocking others disappointment.
I'm still wondering what's going to happen to Tallen Ellecon..... -áSoonGäó514 |
Raylan Scott
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:34:00 -
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I've personally spent over $1000 based upon CCP's history as a company. The way they misled Dust players to come to Fan Fest to hear that their game is dead is something I can't support.
I'm done with CCP. |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24966
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:46:00 -
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Oh come on, give us a break... some of us "EVE only" players have suffered time and time again over the years because CCP screwed up in one way or the other. That's the kind company they are, and everybody still here regardless, should be able to take a little mockery... "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:47:00 -
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Oh but I just refilled my tearbuckets holy crap batman the tears from dust bunnies will keep my ships fueld for the next year easily. Excuse me while i go bath in my pool of bunny tears. Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons. |
Gerald Sphinx
The Irukandji Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:18:00 -
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Honestly I'm just putting my Dust account into cold storage until CCP figures out how to port the character stats into the PC version or the PS4 version (if there ever is a PS4 version). I'll just continue playing Eve Online since at least here everything is set development wise. |
Gerald Sphinx
The Irukandji Ineluctable.
60
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:31:00 -
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Christy D Floyd wrote:Oh but I just refilled my tearbuckets holy crap batman the tears from dust bunnies will keep my ships fueld for the next year easily. Excuse me while i go bath in my pool of bunny tears.
Actually, don't drink those tears. Not this time at least.
Those players have a legitimate reason this time to be absolutely angry and I will tell you why.
1. Absolutely nothing was mentioned about Dust on the PS3 during the initial Dust Keynote other than a montage from CEO Pyrex's YouTube videos. 2. CCP doesn't know yet how to transfer character stats from the PS3 to the PC and there is no mention of the PS4 version. They say they want players to transfer their stats but I'm still having doubts. 3. This... omg
Especially when CCP made a lot of promises that encouraged a lot of players to invest a lot of time and money into this game. Unfortunately those players feel betrayed and they have every right to rage at CCP just like how you and I raged at CCP back in 2011 during the Jita Riots when the whole "Greed Is Good" letter leaked and CCP didn't deliver on the promises set for Incarna.
I understand that it's fun to see CCP troll their own player base, but the trolling they did back then was fun trolling. What we saw today is NOT fun trolling. This is the bad kind of trolling. |
Silence Iganku
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:42:00 -
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I played a lot of games from alpha to release and all of those that are now free to play are full of cheater, the only thing that don't allow in dust to cheat is that is for a console. a lot of people start to cry about that, they ask it ... ccp now do it ... good luck to fail as all other fps for pc free to play that are out there. How you could make a fps all server side ? you think that a simple signature check of the files will protect from aimbotter, people that will teleport with infinite ammo and kill you with one shoot ?
free to play = free to cheat = nothing to lose = ban, open another account = i will not pay a $ where a person with a cheat do the ssame stuff and better.
Good luck ccp and happy fail, all the cheater now is happy yeeeeaaaaa finally dust cheatable !!! |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24988
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:44:00 -
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Gerald Sphinx wrote:I understand that it's fun to see CCP troll their own player base, but the trolling they did back then was fun trolling. What we saw today is NOT fun trolling. This is the bad kind of trolling. ...which they have been doing for their EVE players for years, time and time again. I'm not looking for apologies here, in the contrary, but one thing should be abundantly clear to any CCP customer by now: They are not a good games company: They made many major mistakes over the years, they over estimated them selves and even, sometimes, blatantly lied to their playerbase. Yet still, they are here... "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
Silence Iganku
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:50:00 -
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Gerald Sphinx wrote:Honestly I'm just putting my Dust account into cold storage until CCP figures out how to port the character stats into the PC version or the PS4 version (if there ever is a PS4 version). I'll just continue playing Eve Online since at least here everything is set development wise.
all the change that they will make on summer that will nerf all except industrial people is wise ?
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
24989
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:54:00 -
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Silence Iganku wrote:all the change that they will make on summer that will nerf all except industrial people is wise ?
You are not an indy guy, I take it... industry is one of the aspects of the game that was in need of a major overhaul for... well, basically since the release of the game. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
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mkint
1170
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:14:00 -
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Except dust never mattered. And it was always in beta the whole time. And at least from everything that I saw streamed, plus the dustdevblog, nobody at CCP said you're losing all your stuff. So many dust bunnies who've never seen a fanfest before. CCP announces stuff so early that they themselves have no idea what the hell is going on. All they have is some vague ideas, and some vague promises. Which I guess sums up dust itself. The dust devs know the dust bunnies are freaking out, and they've been trying to be reassuring on the stream.
In the dust keynote, they started by thanking Sony, which my initial reaction was "dang, CCP's never gonna ditch those douchenozzles." And then they announced that, yes, CCP is ditching those douchenozzles at Sony a few moments later. Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun. |
Dominus Tempus
Forced Euthanasia
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:20:00 -
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HTFU |
Zuzmaw
Universalis Imperium Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.03 02:10:00 -
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Raylan Scott wrote:I've personally spent over $1000 based upon CCP's history as a company. The way they misled Dust players to come to Fan Fest to hear that their game is dead is something I can't support.
I'm done with CCP.
Do I dare to ask the question, to which has always been the reply to 'I'm done with x!' or 'This sucks! I'm leaving!'
Do I dare?
If you would be true to your word, my contract tab will be flashing up with 'stuff' from your asset list. Yes?
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Gerald Sphinx
The Irukandji Ineluctable.
63
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:53:00 -
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Dominus Tempus wrote:HTFU
I wish I could take that as a joke. Normally I would especially if it's someone who lost a purple Raven to a gank. But not in this case.
Overall, as an player who also plays Eve Online, I wouldn't care about my Dust account so long as CCP can somehow find a way to transfer my stats from the PS3 to the PC such as the skill points I accumulated and the BPOs I have bought (I don't care about the ISK and the rest of my assets). If not, I'll just move on as this is not something I would jump off a bridge over.
But that's just me.
Others, especially those who don't have a PC capable of handling a game like Legion or Eve Online, are the ones my heart really bleed for. Even if CCP manages to somehow port their character data over to the PC, these players are still not going to be able to use it as they won't be able to afford a gaming rig which is why a lot of console-only players stick to consoles due to affordability.
I'm hoping that this is maybe just one big misunderstanding on our part and hopefully CCP actually shows the real work done on Dust for PS3, but my doubts are growing right now. |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1741
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:49:00 -
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After today's watershed of Bunny tears, I not only filled my jacuzzi but my swimming pool at the cottage, too.
Keep it coming, bunnies, keep it coming.
... hmmmm... perhaps rabbit stew for dinner tonight...
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
56
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:50:00 -
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Tarn Ellecon wrote:Grow up We know this is what you wanted and CCP is making the right decision, but there are a lot of people who invested a lot of time and money into Dust. If the next update for EVE required you to start over at 0 SP on your main how would you feel? Cheated? Scammed? I look forward to Legion, it's the game we've been waiting for, but CCP said the dream would be on PS3 only, and a lot of people stuck around just because of the promise of "10 years of support" Be happy, a New Eden fps is coming, but please stop mocking others disappointment.
I'm still wondering what's going to happen to Tallen Ellecon.....
Noone ever took away the money they invested, it helped to shape the dust as a whole and will help to make it what it should be from the start, it would never be accomplished on a console, always too many limitations no freedom. The EVE Universe delicate complexity, depth, deep backstory, art, lore and scale. It would never ever become anywhere close on a console, even on PS4 there would come limitations eventually, and would be less freedom anyway. |
Lord Dracarys
Federal Reserve of Amarr
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:18:00 -
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why are you guys complaining? wont dust development continue? you chose to pay money for a game that was exclusive to a LAST GEN CONSOLE...you honestly think an aging console could ever compete with a pc? |
Scifi
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:28:00 -
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Gerald Sphinx wrote: Others, especially those who don't have a PC capable of handling a game like Legion or Eve Online, are the ones my heart really bleed for. Even if CCP manages to somehow port their character data over to the PC, these players are still not going to be able to use it as they won't be able to afford a gaming rig which is why a lot of console-only players stick to consoles due to affordability.
I'm hoping that this is maybe just one big misunderstanding on our part and hopefully CCP actually shows the real work done on Dust for PS3, but my doubts are growing right now.
Pretty much this, of the 25-ish active Dust players in my corp I counted ONE, ONE single player who would able, let alone willing, to make the transition to a PC based version. Some of them are already considering jumping off what they now perceive as a "dead game". |
Aralieus
The Inf1dels Spaceship Samurai
216
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:34:00 -
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I dont understand all the rage, seems a little premature imo. Although I do like your alliance name Oderint Dum Metuant |
Lord Dracarys
Federal Reserve of Amarr
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:36:00 -
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Scifi wrote:Gerald Sphinx wrote: Others, especially those who don't have a PC capable of handling a game like Legion or Eve Online, are the ones my heart really bleed for. Even if CCP manages to somehow port their character data over to the PC, these players are still not going to be able to use it as they won't be able to afford a gaming rig which is why a lot of console-only players stick to consoles due to affordability.
I'm hoping that this is maybe just one big misunderstanding on our part and hopefully CCP actually shows the real work done on Dust for PS3, but my doubts are growing right now.
Pretty much this, of the 25-ish active Dust players in my corp I counted ONE, ONE single player who would able, let alone willing, to make the transition to a PC based version. Some of them are already considering jumping off what they now perceive as a "dead game".
the game isn't going anywhere. they didn't announce server shutdowns. you can still play your ps3. you can still pay2win. when(if) legion comes out, there will be more players than dust and it'll be more popular/receive more updates/support. BUT, there will also be lots of hackers/aim botters. so honestly, you should all be happy you're stuck on a console. problem is, once your ps3 dies 5-10 years from now, GL finding another one to play on. you should have seen this comin.... |
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Kuronaga
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
253
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:44:00 -
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That a joke?
Legion won't have half the players of Dust.
PC gaming is only popular when the game is good. And even then, its console counter-parts pretty much always have a higher population. |
Lord Dracarys
Federal Reserve of Amarr
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 07:56:00 -
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Kuronaga wrote:That a joke?
Legion won't have half the players of Dust.
PC gaming is only popular when the game is good. And even then, its console counter-parts pretty much always have a higher population. im pretty sure more than 20 people will play legion... |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1133
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:10:00 -
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i have a dust bunny older than this toon (started the day the beta went public), Harden The **** Up. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
25039
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:20:00 -
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Lord Dracarys wrote:im pretty sure more than 20 people will play legion... Indeed...
Even the most basic free2play shooter on PC has more then an average of 2500 players, especially if promoted over Steam (and since EVE is, Legion will most likely be too). Face it, DUST was an experiment bound to fail... nothing more, nothing less... "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
Silence Iganku
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:43:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Silence Iganku wrote:all the change that they will make on summer that will nerf all except industrial people is wise ?
You are not an indy guy, I take it... industry is one of the aspects of the game that was in need of a major overhaul for... well, basically since the release of the game.
so why nerf all other stuff ?
- miner = will be nerfed = same rocks = x2 output = same amount of crystal for production = /2 money earned = noob never see a ship different from venture
- exploration = just ninja nerfed = 1/4 repown than before
- ratting / plexing =will be nerfed
what is the point of that ? what is ????????? too much beer ???
this is not wise at all |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1316
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Posted - 2014.05.03 08:53:00 -
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Cry more console pig. The Tears Must Flow |
Novah Soul
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:17:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Oh come on, give us a break... some of us "EVE only" players have suffered time and time again over the years because CCP screwed up in one way or the other. That's the kind company they are, and everybody still here regardless, should be able to take a little mockery... CCP screwing up on EVE and outright shutting down a game (or all but) after numerous promises to that playerbase are a tad bit different.
They have every right to feel screwed.
Sure Legion should be the better game, but like I mentioned on the official dust forums, if I want an eve based game on the pc, I'll play Eve. I liked dust b/c I can get thrown into the world/lore when I can't get onto my pc for whatever reason. |
Tadhg Huidaneux
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 12:49:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Oh come on, give us a break... some of us "EVE only" players have suffered time and time again over the years because CCP screwed up in one way or the other. Well, let's assume this would have happend (quoting my fellow clan member and translating it into some kind of English):
In the last few month we would have been able to extend our PLEX with a discount of 20%. Or 12 for 10 whatever. CCP would have told us that there are a lot of cool new expansions in the pipeline, maybe even a bit more than usually. OK, there are some islandic holidays, so CCP can't work on those expansions right now, but they will start working on them after those said holidays. They would work hard on delivering an awesome PC game.
Well, then's the fanfest. The EVE-Keynote: See, we've worked hard on that fancy MMO prototype. Yeah, it's not EVE, it's now ADAM Online. You might think it is EVE but ADAM's a lot nicer and has all those features we were not able to include into EVE yet. And hey, we don't think EVE will get those promised features. Aaaand... ADAM's exculsively on PS4.
We don't know if you can transfer your existing EVE chars or skill points. Or anything else. Maybe, you know. But not for sure. It may look the same, but everything is so frigging diffrent, its so awesome. We can't tell you more about EVE, but hey, there will be some Bug fixes. Awesome!
And that's to point where the whole CCP HQ would have burned, not only Jita, right?
So, why don't you act like the grownups you think you are in reallife and show some sympathy. Or at least wait another day or two until you start teasing those human beeings that were na+»ve enough to believe what CCP told them. We're all gamers out there. And it is not OK what CCP did.
It might be good for the New-Eden-FPS. But it's not good what they did to a big part of the DUST community. |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1841
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Posted - 2014.05.03 13:30:00 -
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while this is all good reading... I am almost tempted to head over to dust forums to read all thier tears...
oh and i do have a dust player from beta when i had to pay 20 bucks for the starter set.
I am stoked about legion though even more so if they port my character. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Jaz Antollare
Deadly Loneliness
97
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Posted - 2014.05.03 15:44:00 -
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Make a separate space where all of the New Eden universe characters are stored and transfered cross all the similar projects ^^ Like mercs and capsuleers, and those who will join us, so we all can move forward to EVE 2.0 in the future :D
Btw: I really hope they will make a bridge between the dust514 and the new legion project. |
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