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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:23:00 -
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Jason Wyght wrote:Grayland Aubaris wrote:At this rate there will be no asymmetrical ships left in EVE... We will always have: Velator, Incursus, Imicus, Atron, Catalyst, Thorax, Exequror, Celestis, and Thanatos.
Except all of these ships are also due for a redesign.
There has already been concept art shown for a symmetrical Imicus. For the lovers of the asymmetrical the Atron concept art was still slightly off symmetry so I wouldn't worry that CCP is going overboard.
As much as I think the new Moa is cool I personally would have thrown it off balance just a little bit as an homage to the old design. But the new ships really fits in more with the Caldari capitals and the new Caldari ships from the past few years. Now they just have to finish off the rest of the cruisers and frigates that are in bad shape. |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
385
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:49:00 -
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These new models are sex. Pure sex. |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
8
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:02:00 -
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Octoven wrote:To be honest the people who do not like the change are just nostalgic about them.
Wrong. Their preferences are just different than yours. I like the design of my Gila/Moa just the way it is. It's not nostalgia that I like abstract art. I like the design of the current Moa because it is interesting to me. The new one is boring to me. Too predictable. |
Slaptastic
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:40:00 -
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Hasril Pux wrote:Octoven wrote:To be honest the people who do not like the change are just nostalgic about them. Wrong. Their preferences are just different than yours. I like the design of my Gila/Moa just the way it is. It's not nostalgia that I like abstract art. I like the design of the current Moa because it is interesting to me. The new one is boring to me. Too predictable. Edit: I've posted an idea in Features & Ideas entitled Access to Older Ship Models on the Noble Exchange and I'd like your support if you prefer some of the older designs.
You are correct. However, it's unfortunate (for you specifically) that you are in a tiny minority when it comes to loving the current Moa's design. Naturally CCP leans towards pleasing the masses.
I like your suggestion about accessing older ship models, though it seems like a lot of extra work for CCP that they likely won't perform. But I'll still toss my name in the hat for support. |
Yaaar's Revenge
Infernal Creations Dirt Nap Squad.
74
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Posted - 2014.05.05 23:34:00 -
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I'm bracing myself for the VAST amount of Moas and Gilas in highsec that are gonna be called Firefly and Serenity. It'll be funny at first, but then like a clown with an ageing problem, it'll get old quickly... Follow me on Twitter @Yaaars_Revenge |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
560
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Posted - 2014.05.06 14:19:00 -
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Egor Eads wrote:DeadDuck wrote:Egor Eads wrote:I like all of them better, and I agree with the guy that said the Typhoon looks a bit like some of the Tengu configurations. This might be a dumb question, but will the Gila look like the new Moa, or keep the old design? I hope it looks like the new one, because its the main ship I fly right now and I think its ugly. Almost for sure the Gila will have the new design. Awesome, I love the new design. Hope youre right!
The Gila is getting it's own model at some point down the line. AFAIK this is the plan for every single ship in EVE.
The stealth bombers are the best example of this: You can see the DNA of the ship they're based on, but they have their completely own look.
Marauders also count here, up to a point - While they diverge less from their t1 counterparts, they still have their own models.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Mercedes Chance
GDC Enterprises
9
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:05:00 -
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I totally am loving the new Moa (of course a featureless brick would look better than the current look) and I am loving that Condor!
Cised! |
Treborr MintingtonJr
Quantum Reality R n D Spaceship Samurai
209
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:26:00 -
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The new dominix looks like the love child of a zylon and a potato :-D |
Deerin
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
232
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:08:00 -
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I am disappointed.
My space trashcan is just becoming a big tengu.
:_(
I really don't like this trend of losing duct tapes for shiny plates on matari ships. |
Tran Tuyen
Amadio Family Enterprises
29
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:22:00 -
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*Pours out a forty for suitcase brontosaurus* |
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Jason Akrilon
Forgotten Colonies Darwins Lemmings
0
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:54:00 -
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Is it just me or does the moa look closer to the ship Serenity from Firefly/Serenity... I liked the moa's functions may like to fly it a bit more in it's new design... Also agree that raptor now looks better... |
Leiko Maruyama
Phoibe Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:05:00 -
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Jason Akrilon wrote:Is it just me or does the moa look closer to the ship Serenity from Firefly/Serenity...
Nope, no previous posts in this thread mentioned the same, exact thing. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Mordus Angels
883
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:56:00 -
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Are they really ******* with my space tater.
C'mon, this is the ship that I have seen titans named "Tater Cannon" for.
WRF? |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
11
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:22:00 -
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Tran Tuyen wrote:*Pours out a forty for suitcase brontosaurus*
My friend ain't dead cause REAL Moas neva die! |
Axyl Drake
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.07 02:15:00 -
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To be honest, the minority that are displeased with the new moa designs are just that... a vocal minority.
People who are satisfied with the new designs, and approve of them would likely be happy and move on, but those that felt so strongly about the new designs would definitely post about it in this thread, that's the only reason we see any outcry.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making ships symmetrical, symmetricality is something that is seeded in our subconscious, for the majority of humans symmetrical things are more attractive than the other, our choice in partners, our choice in cars, our decisions and thoughts are subconsciously influenced by patterns and symmetry.
Scientific studies have proven multiple times over that symmetry is something that appeals to humans, but the studies have also proven that this isn't the case for everyone, there are those who are subconsciously attracted in ASymmetry as well, even if they are a minority.
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Camper101
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
985
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Posted - 2014.05.07 09:15:00 -
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Octoven wrote:[quote=Arronicus] Less you forget smaller ships are fully capable of entering a planet's atmosphere, the old moa design would have meant a 1000% increase in fuel needed to fly lol
Nope, lore-wise any alloy containing Tritaniumis too unstable at atmospheric temperatures. Pretty much everything in Eve is made of Trit, so no, they can't enter atmospheres :P
The groundlings on the planets couldn't handle the swag of a new Gila anyways, let them do their mortal stuff there and keep the fancy ships to us in space. :) 2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000.
My name is Hans. The "L" stands for danger. |
ChromeStriker
Chrome Exploration
720
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Posted - 2014.05.07 09:35:00 -
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I can just imagine the meeting for the new Phoon....
"Right come on guys, we're running out of beer.... what is the typhoon?"
"....umm...fast.... and a battleship...."
"Ok... we'll bolt on some armour plates and stick it on the end of some mahoosive engines..."
"Hazar!!"
It seems to have worked
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Starbuck05
Chattsworth Buccaneers D0GS OF WAR
225
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Posted - 2014.05.07 09:43:00 -
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I don't care what anyone will say, come summer patch, i'll b flying that bad ass moa every single frackin day!!
Ccp , i love you guys! -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
1196
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Posted - 2014.05.07 10:08:00 -
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Camper101 wrote:Nope, lore-wise any alloy containing Tritaniumis too unstable at atmospheric temperatures. Pretty much everything in Eve is made of Trit, so no, they can't enter atmospheres :P
You realise of course that space is both much hotter and much colder than atmospheric temperatures?
Anything that would melt in an atmosphere will melt under direct sunlight. |
Odithia
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2014.05.07 10:13:00 -
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Paikis wrote:[quote=Camper101] Anything that would melt in an atmosphere will melt under direct sunlight. Without taking into account the massive heat generation of something like a spaceship full of railguns. |
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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
238
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Posted - 2014.05.07 10:36:00 -
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Axyl Drake wrote:To be honest, the minority that are displeased with the new moa designs are just that... a vocal minority.
Isn't this a little melodramatic? I mean it is like 4 people in the thread that don't like the new designs and they are all flat out crazy. It isn't like there is a 50 page thread in general full of pitchfork wielding Caldari wanting the old Moa back. I don't even think they count as a minority. More like a blip. |
Enison
Moira. Villore Accords
1
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:59:00 -
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idk why people are bitching about loving asymmetry. i never fly most caldari ships if i can help it. their ships do not look like space ships to me because theyre not symmetrical. they look like badly made kids toys. ships like the rohk are spaceships to me. they have that long look that makes them look like a spaceship. not some hideous ship with different pieces jutting out all over the place. what kinda structural integrity can that offer? yea yea theyre shield ships, but hull strength still has to play a part.
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120302053031/starwars/images/a/a8/ImpStarDestroyer-SWI125.jpg
http://www.dvice.com/sites/dvice/files/images/pics/Battlestar-Galactica-ship.jpg
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090714124528/firefly/images/1/11/Firefly_class_ship.jpg
and im sure there are many more i cant think of.
even the most famous asymmetrical ship of all time is mostly symmetrical.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSf7_Qc_ZhIJmmnNXZ_aO1W5TlAcdfAuSrAVuWSR5XWGBWtngmrw |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
12
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:33:00 -
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Dalloway Jones wrote:Isn't this a little melodramatic? I mean it is like 4 people in the thread that don't like the new designs and they are all flat out crazy. It isn't like there is a 50 page thread in general full of pitchfork wielding Caldari wanting the old Moa back. I don't even think they count as a minority. More like a blip.
Enison wrote:idk why people are bitching about loving asymmetry. i never fly most caldari ships if i can help it. their ships do not look like space ships to me because theyre not symmetrical. they look like badly made kids toys. ships like the rohk are spaceships to me. they have that long look that makes them look like a spaceship. not some hideous ship with different pieces jutting out all over the place. what kinda structural integrity can that offer? yea yea theyre shield ships, but hull strength still has to play a part.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE SAME AS YOU! That does not make us crazy! Variety is way cooler to us than generic sleekness that appeals to a majority. It is more interesting. Less comfortable and pillowy. Jagged. Abstract. Confounding. These are the things that appeal to me.
Yes, I and people like me are in a minority. But blowing us off as crazy is asinine!
I'll give you my Moa when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
611
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:41:00 -
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Symmetry in space is a very funny thing. Take your star destroyer for instance. If you look at it from the 2D perspective, it may seem symmetrical, but since space is a 3D environment, flip it 90 degrees to the side and try to find symmetry. Kinda not there anymore, is it? |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1141
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:49:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Symmetry in space is a very funny thing. Take your star destroyer for instance. If you look at it from the 2D perspective, it may seem symmetrical, but since space is a 3D environment, flip it 90 degrees to the side and try to find symmetry. Kinda not there anymore, is it? By that same standard the new Moa isn't symmetrical, so how does that logic not circulate back around preempting the argument here?
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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
240
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Posted - 2014.05.07 22:56:00 -
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Hasril Pux wrote:Dalloway Jones wrote:Isn't this a little melodramatic? I mean it is like 4 people in the thread that don't like the new designs and they are all flat out crazy. It isn't like there is a 50 page thread in general full of pitchfork wielding Caldari wanting the old Moa back. I don't even think they count as a minority. More like a blip. Enison wrote:idk why people are bitching about loving asymmetry. i never fly most caldari ships if i can help it. their ships do not look like space ships to me because theyre not symmetrical. they look like badly made kids toys. ships like the rohk are spaceships to me. they have that long look that makes them look like a spaceship. not some hideous ship with different pieces jutting out all over the place. what kinda structural integrity can that offer? yea yea theyre shield ships, but hull strength still has to play a part. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE SAME AS YOU! That does not make us crazy! Variety is way cooler to us than generic sleekness that appeals to a majority. The original Moa is more interesting. Less comfortable and pillowy. Jagged. Abstract. Confounding. These are the things that appeal to me.Yes, I and people like me are in a minority. But blowing us off as crazy is asinine!
The worst offense of the old Moa wasn't even the asymmetry. It is just badly drawn. |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3480
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Posted - 2014.05.07 23:11:00 -
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The new redesigns are all absolutely fantastic. Some of you must have blinders on if you don't think these are tremendous improvements. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
13
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Posted - 2014.05.07 23:29:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:The new redesigns are all absolutely fantastic. Some of you must have blinders on if you don't think these are tremendous improvements.
I don't think they are all that bad by themselves, but the fact that they are replacing everything that looks like it might have come out of a Chris Foss painting is really killing me. I like dynamic off-beat and off-balance stuff, especially the old caldari stuff. That's why I went for this game in the first place. These newer models are boring to me. I don't think your crazy for liking them. I'll give you my Moa when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!
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Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3480
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Posted - 2014.05.07 23:46:00 -
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Hasril Pux wrote:I don't think they are all that bad by themselves, but the fact that they are replacing everything that looks like it might have come out of a Chris Foss or Peter Elson painting is really killing me. I like dynamic off-beat and off-balance stuff, especially the old caldari stuff. That's why I went for this game in the first place. These newer models are boring to me. I don't think your crazy for liking them. There's nothing wrong with symmetry (or at least more of it). I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
13
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Posted - 2014.05.07 23:59:00 -
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No, there really isn't. But it's nothing special without something wild and ridiculous to contrast it. I'll give you my Moa when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!
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