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Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:23:00 -
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One of the biggest draws to this game for me was the outlandish and asymmetrical design of some of my favorite ships, such as the old Scorpion, the old Stabber and the old (recently lost) Tristan model. And, call me a weirdo, but my very favorite ship design in the game is the Moa. Now, as I understand it, that is also about to be lost.
I'd like to know if the developers of this game would be interested in implementing a way to buy back the older models, so that old dogs like me can fly around in our ugly pieces of junk if we really want to. And I really want to. I would pay cashy monies just to have my old ugly Stabber back, and to keep my Moas and my Gilas the way they are. |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises
180
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:32:00 -
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I will allow it. |
Claud Tiberius
35
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:18:00 -
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I would get the previous Golem in a heart beat. No animation is no biggy. Anything to fix those wings and change the flat head ... |
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates.
317
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:52:00 -
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I'll meet you somewhere in the middle on this, it would be cool to have Display Models for the Captains Quarters/Ship Spinning of the old ships, but they can't undock. (I'm guessing that there will eventually be Technical reasons why they won't work in space because of graphics engine changes, but in a closed environment like CQ/Ship Hangar you don't need to run the main code and can run older variations of the code :) ) |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3462
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Posted - 2014.05.05 03:59:00 -
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No, they're absolutely horrible and need to die. Sorry... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
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Posted - 2014.05.05 17:17:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:No, they're absolutely horrible and need to die. Sorry...
That's a matter of opinion. I personally feel that the newer models are pretty much generic space shooter knock off ship designs with gimmicky moving parts (like the Intrepid class star ship from Star Trek Voyager), but I can understand that is just my opinion and that a lot of other people go for that stuff. I just want the ability to buy back the older models that I prefer because, for me, the newer models are "absolutely horrible." |
Minty Aroma
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
29
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Posted - 2014.05.05 17:23:00 -
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Hasril Pux wrote:One of the biggest draws to this game for me was the outlandish and asymmetrical design of some of my favorite ships, such as the old Scorpion, the old Stabber and the old (recently lost) Tristan model. And, call me a weirdo, but my very favorite ship design in the game is the Moa. Now, as I understand it, that is also about to be lost.
I'd like to know if the developers of this game would be interested in implementing a way to buy back the older models, so that old dogs like me can fly around in our ugly pieces of junk if we really want to. And I really want to. I would pay cashy monies just to have my old ugly Stabber back, and to keep my Moas and my Gilas the way they are.
That will make the game look worse due to the poorer graphics quality of those outdated models, and rather than update them to use better textures I'd rather they just released more content and newer, shiner looking ships!
PS: New Moa looks awesome, way to make one of the ugliest ducklings into a beautiful swan! |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
6
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Posted - 2014.05.05 17:53:00 -
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Minty Aroma wrote:That will make the game look worse due to the poorer graphics quality of those outdated models
How much time do you really plan to spend looking at my ship? Or are you saying that there would be so much demand for older models that it would intefere with your personal tastes? Why completely trample on this request if it doesn't effect the appearance of your own ships and probably most of the others in space?
I'm just asking to be able to buy an old model for my ship. |
Xavier Thorm
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
121
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Posted - 2014.05.05 19:00:00 -
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This seems like solid idea to me. |
Saile Litestrider
Ursus Sirius BEARPOCALYPSE
56
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Posted - 2014.05.06 14:18:00 -
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I'd rather they simply focus their efforts on making their designs stand out and be as unique as the designs their replacing, rather than looking interchangeable with any other sci-fi setting out there, but this seems like a decent compromise, and a great use of the ship-customization system we'll (hopefully) be seeing before long. |
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Mr Doctor
Sex Machineguns Happy Cartel
125
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Posted - 2014.05.06 14:23:00 -
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Always thought it would be nice for remodels if all built ships in the game stayed the old model until repackaged/rebuilt. Yes people with rigs would ***** but f'kem! Would be a bit of a resource drain right enough. |
Ezekiel Marr
Dark Nova Inc.
6
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Posted - 2014.05.06 14:38:00 -
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I'm for it. Moa is such a monstrosity, it should be preserved for posterity. In my hangar, if possible. |
Juan Thang
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
27
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Posted - 2014.05.06 15:27:00 -
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For varitation it would be good if all the ship models were available, with the different slot layouts, now i know this would completely unbalance everything but it would create a lot more variation. |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
11
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:23:00 -
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Caldari 5 wrote:I'll meet you somewhere in the middle on this, it would be cool to have Display Models for the Captains Quarters/Ship Spinning of the old ships, but they can't undock. (I'm guessing that there will eventually be Technical reasons why they won't work in space because of graphics engine changes, but in a closed environment like CQ/Ship Hangar you don't need to run the main code and can run older variations of the code :) )
Ezekiel Marr wrote:I'm for it. Moa is such a monstrosity, it should be preserved for posterity. In my hangar, if possible. I agree that there may be technical difficulties involved in preserving the old models in such a way that they work with every graphics feature such as custom painting. I am willing to give up those features when buying a vintage hull. But I personally would not settle for a Display Model that can't undock. I will continue to fight for a buyable vintage hull that I can bring out into space, fully loaded and ready to explode (or explode things).
Caldari 5, what other technical problems can you foresee, did you have anything specific in mind? I'd like to be able to think of solutions or workarounds that would make undocking a real possibility if it isn't one already. Any DEVs should feel free to jump in here and trample my petty dreams , but be prepared to face some well-mannered persistence on my part.
Saile Litestrider wrote:I'd rather they simply focus their efforts on making their designs stand out and be as unique as the designs their replacing, rather than looking interchangeable with any other sci-fi setting out there, but this seems like a decent compromise, and a great use of the ship-customization system we'll (hopefully) be seeing before long. I'd rather they do that as well. Unfortunately, we're outnumbered on that front. I think our only chance is through the Noble Exchange, although, I honestly haven't read everything about ship customization. If there is to be a separate UI for that then I may have to change the title of this post.
Juan Thang wrote:For varitation it would be good if all the ship models were available, with the different slot layouts, now i know this would completely unbalance everything but it would create a lot more variation. I had similar thoughts when CCP first redesigned the Stabber. Like, maybe we could keep our older weaker Stabbers with the original stats, layout, and hull (artwork). Throw it a bone, like maybe the ability to remove rigs without destroying them. It's a cool idea and all, but I'm afraid the effort involved in making that happen would make it a very unpopular idea with the DEVs. That does not mean that ideas like that shouldn't be brought up. Fire away.
By the way, thank you everyone for your support. |
Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
478
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Posted - 2014.05.06 20:48:00 -
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How about NOT on the NeX? Just make it an option in the manufacturing process or something.
Not that I'd like to see the old models back, personally. I just dislike the noble exchange and want to see it die. |
Kate Blaze
True Power Capsuleers
16
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:20:00 -
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There are so many issues with having old models that I don't think it's feasible from programmers POV. |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
126
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:34:00 -
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Hasril Pux wrote:One of the biggest draws to this game for me was the outlandish and asymmetrical design of some of my favorite ships, such as the old Scorpion, the old Stabber and the old (recently lost) Tristan model. And, call me a weirdo, but my very favorite ship design in the game is the Moa. Now, as I understand it, that is also about to be lost.
I'd like to know if the developers of this game would be interested in implementing a way to buy back the older models, so that old dogs like me can fly around in our ugly pieces of junk if we really want to. And I really want to. I would pay cashy monies just to have my old ugly Stabber back, and to keep my Moas and my Gilas the way they are.
While I hate the old Scorpion design, there is little reason apart from the time and effort it would take to update the old models for them to not do this.
Hmmm... Jovian skins would be cool. |
monkfish2345
The Knights of Spamalot The Methodical Alliance
160
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:04:00 -
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old eos and scorpion would be more than welcome. and god forbid they finally get around to changing the old space potato |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3297
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:06:00 -
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Alas, this would cause unnecessary client bloat. At least unnecessary compared to the benefits. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2584
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:07:00 -
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I'm sure they would if it was easy to do. I doubt it is. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
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monkfish2345
The Knights of Spamalot The Methodical Alliance
161
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:34:00 -
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i get the feeling your probably overthing this. all that would really be needed is for the old models and textures to be put back into the client. the only ship that would need to be translated would be the clients own ship really.
if you expected it to check each other user and translate their ship skins to new or old, then you would have issues. but i would imagine for those that want the nostalgia hit, seeing their own ship with the old model would be more than enough. |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3479
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:47:00 -
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The newer models are really better in every respect. Given a choice of the resources being put into retaining the older (outdated) ship models or instead invested into updating and revising the rest of the ship models... it's not a hard decision... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
monkfish2345
The Knights of Spamalot The Methodical Alliance
161
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Posted - 2014.05.07 15:51:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:The newer models are really better in every respect. Given a choice of resources being put into retaining the older (outdate) ship models or instead invested into updating and revising the rest of the models it's not a hard decision...
your ignoring the fact that it could easily be used to generate revenue for CCP.
also it's worth pointing out that ship skins has been something that CCP have themselves talked about many times over the years, and while they are yet to deliver on this, what the OP is asking for would pretty much fall under the same development work. |
Bohneik Itohn
Periphery Bound
81
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:35:00 -
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We got a Police Comet. So why can't I buy a classic Crucifier with LP or AUR?
If the issue is standardizing the quality of the artwork in Eve, throw a higher resolution skin on it and call it a day. We like some of the old models of ships and will pay a premium for them just like we'll pay a premium for ship skins, and it has the same performance impact as ship skins.
I see no barriers to prevent this. |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:36:00 -
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monkfish2345 wrote:old eos and scorpion would be more than welcome. and god forbid they finally get around to changing the old space potato
They're getting around to it.
New Space Potato
If you do want access to the old models don't forget to like the OP, I've heard that CCP may pay attention to what people like. And yes, I am a self promoting ***. I'll give you my Moa when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!
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Arronicus
Ravens' Nest Outlaw Horizon.
947
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Posted - 2014.05.07 18:40:00 -
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I'd also pay money (plex) to keep the old scorpion and moa models. |
CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
66
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:13:00 -
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i hope this idea doesnt get implemented. |
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
183
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:33:00 -
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this should be easy do do - just re-introduce the old models (assuming they still have them) in the same manner as different coloured ships. For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it WILL be. |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
12
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:41:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:i hope this idea doesnt get implemented. Why? Would this idea have a negative impact on your personal game play? I'll give you my Moa when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!
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Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
3480
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Posted - 2014.05.07 22:34:00 -
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monkfish2345 wrote:your ignoring the fact that it could easily be used to generate revenue for CCP. also it's worth pointing out that ship skins has been something that CCP have themselves talked about many times over the years, and while they are yet to deliver on this, what the OP is asking for would pretty much fall under the same development work. I hadn't ignored that - I just don't think there's that much of a demand for it compared to say an update that allows you to customize your ship beyond ship skins. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
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