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rippletink kuby
Callisto Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2014.05.07 11:15:00 -
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Its all about definition, You have a bounty on your head because you did something to someone else, hence you deserve the "WANTED" tag and corresponding bounty.
Here is where is falls apart, when someone places a bounty on another because they can. This is out right prejudice, placing a possibly innocent capsule-er at unnecessary risk through no fault of their own. Its desirable for some freighters, miners etc. to keep a low profile, having an unwanted label and financial incentive no matter how small (as for some it takes only a little excuse.) to get blown away is not good.
So here how it goes whats good for one is good for all and if this issue is not taken seriously then everyone should place a bounty and wanted on everyone they feel like, its bad enough having to deal with morons, but when you play a game to relax (yes relax) then being pulled into the ****** side of things just ruins the fun. because someone dosn't like the look of you.
Here is my solution.
The only time you should be able to place a bounty on another is when they have committed a suspect action against you. ( you have the time it takes for the suspect timer to run out to think about and place a bounty.) simple as.
If however you don't like someone then you should go through the 'Contracts and place an actual hit on someone' which morons can find in contracts.
Hence we have the distinction of both "good bounty hunters" and moron hitmen. |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
79
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Posted - 2014.05.07 11:15:00 -
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Hope you like your upcoming bounty.
Btw... wrong forum.
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Dave Stark
5351
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Posted - 2014.05.07 11:17:00 -
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you're proposing a solution where there isn't a problem.
i'm sure you see the futility and stupidity of such an action. |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
79
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Posted - 2014.05.07 11:19:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:you're proposing a solution where there isn't a problem.
i'm sure you see the futility and stupidity of such an action. You make no sense at all. If she did, she wouldn't have posted it in the first place.
Your post in no way or form educates her. |
Dave Stark
5351
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Posted - 2014.05.07 11:26:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Your post in no way or form educates her. the great problem is, when people post things like this it's almost a guarantee that any form of education would be wasted effort. |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
79
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Posted - 2014.05.07 11:27:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Your post in no way or form educates her. the great problem is, when people post things like this it's almost a guarantee that any form of education would be wasted effort. Exactly. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
677
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Posted - 2014.05.07 12:27:00 -
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*looks at OP*
Hmm...
Needs some more bounty.
Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
81
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Posted - 2014.05.07 12:29:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:*looks at OP* Hmm... Needs some more bounty. Forums need a button for this. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5849
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Posted - 2014.05.07 12:33:00 -
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Thanks to Crimewatch, suspect actions are no longer coded as being committed against a specific player. So your solution isn't feasible.
Oh, and + 5 million bounty.
Oh, and your corp has the word "mining" in it. Watchlisted. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
81
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Posted - 2014.05.07 12:34:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Thanks to Crimewatch, suspect actions are no longer coded as being committed against a specific player. So your solution isn't feasible.
Oh, and + 5 million bounty.
Oh, and your corp has the word "mining" in it. Watchlisted. CrimeWatch.
Reminds me. One can't draw Sentry aggro anymore from ahooting the station without getting CONCORDed.
Quite a weird change. |
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
664
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Posted - 2014.05.07 13:43:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:*looks at OP* Hmm... Needs some more bounty. Forums need a button for this.
It seems we found the real problem:
There is no way to place pointless* bounties on angry carebears from the forums.
* your bounty simply just does not matter, in any amount. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
cpt Varox
Offerings of Blood
24
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:13:00 -
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No one is innocent. moar bounty :)) !
Edit: i saw the word miner in your corp... we dont take kindly to your kind here :) |
Jint Hikaru
Truly Transdimensional The Nova Foundry
1197
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:25:00 -
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rippletink kuby wrote: Here is my solution.
The only time you should be able to place a bounty on another is when they have committed a suspect action against you. ( you have the time it takes for the suspect timer to run out to think about and place a bounty.) simple as.
So how do I put a bounty on someone who has scammed me????
Or who has threatened me in Local chat channel????
Or someone who constantly bumps me????
Here's some advice:
1. Post in the correct forum.
2. Stay out of C&P, its obviously not for you.
3. Play Eve for more than 2.5 Months before making grand game changing suggestions.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
92
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Posted - 2014.05.07 14:49:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:*looks at OP* Hmm... Needs some more bounty. Forums need a button for this. It seems we found the real problem: There is no way to place pointless* bounties on angry carebears from the forums. * your bounty simply just does not matter, in any amount. Like most people, you fail to understand how reality and language work.
Every time I place a bounty on someone and he emotionally reacts to it, the bounty matters.
Every time somebody with bounty gets killed, the killer receives money and somebody gets a notification.
Substantially high amounts matter for those receiving it.
Many put out bounties to receive notifications about a loss of the bounteed, so again it matters.
Bounties are a temporary (sometimes permanent) ISK sink, so they matter here too.
Reality. People. Hard to understand, I know.
If you people will find a way to actually properly express your issues with bounty, then others might actually care enough to push this pointless whining beyond irrelevance. |
rippletink kuby
Callisto Mining Corporation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:15:00 -
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So the best anyone can do is not address any issue, just bully the person trying to point out an obvious flaw. Ive been ganked twice in as many hours did i scream and shout!, Because its the nature of the game that people can do what they want with no conscience. Now I have a bounty of 7 million on a miner character who has done nothing, so you ruin my gaming experience and target the corp i belong to, real mature. Thanks for your compassion.
Also I'm sorry for posting in the wrong place but i dont see you pointing this noob in the right direction! |
Khador Vess
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
205
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:28:00 -
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Features & Ideas -> That way
Also it seems like your bounty is a little low, i'll add a little now and make sure to top it up every time i see t go down. Enjoy your stay here. I used to have a forum sig, but CCP SocksFour stole it.... |
Paranoid Loyd
471
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:36:00 -
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Sigh, you better hope Kane is not around. Also stop posting for your own good. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2585
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:36:00 -
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bounties are okay, just gotta get the stupid wanted tag off my face. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Damon Messer
Miroirs
7
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:39:00 -
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rippletink kuby wrote:Its all about definition, You have a bounty on your head because you did something to someone else, hence you deserve the "WANTED" tag and corresponding bounty.
Here is where is falls apart, when someone places a bounty on another because they can. This is out right prejudice, placing a possibly innocent capsule-er at unnecessary risk through no fault of their own. Its desirable for some freighters, miners etc. to keep a low profile, having an unwanted label and financial incentive no matter how small (as for some it takes only a little excuse.) to get blown away is not good.
So here how it goes whats good for one is good for all and if this issue is not taken seriously then everyone should place a bounty and wanted on everyone they feel like, its bad enough having to deal with morons, but when you play a game to relax (yes relax) then being pulled into the ****** side of things just ruins the fun. because someone dosn't like the look of you.
Here is my solution.
The only time you should be able to place a bounty on another is when they have committed a suspect action against you. ( you have the time it takes for the suspect timer to run out to think about and place a bounty.) simple as.
If however you don't like someone then you should go through the 'Contracts and place an actual hit on someone' which morons can find in contracts.
Hence we have the distinction of both "good bounty hunters" and moron hitmen.
like a reverse killright, right?
although i agree that i think the current bounty system is messed up
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Jur Tissant
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:56:00 -
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Bounties are no big deal unless someone really dislikes you. Placing a casual million ISK bounty on a freighter pilot is not going to make them into a more attractive target.
Other than that, I don't really like your suggestion because not all acts you might want to put a bounty up for are suspect acts. Merc corps can run around shooting up high-sec without incurring so much a slap on the wrist from Concord, but that shouldn't save them from getting a bounty.
I like the idea of contract hits. Is that a thing right now? If not it should be. |
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Kaea Astridsson
Yggdrasil Woodchoppers Noir. Mercenary Group
29
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Posted - 2014.05.07 17:09:00 -
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Tried to create a WTB for specific Frozen Corpse... didn't work the way I wanted. |
Quinn Hatfield
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.05.07 18:46:00 -
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Bounties are the gift that keeps on giving, have some more OP. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
664
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Posted - 2014.05.07 18:54:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:*looks at OP* Hmm... Needs some more bounty. Forums need a button for this. It seems we found the real problem: There is no way to place pointless* bounties on angry carebears from the forums. * your bounty simply just does not matter, in any amount. Like most people, you fail to understand how reality and language work. Every time I place a bounty on someone and he emotionally reacts to it, the bounty matters. Every time somebody with bounty gets killed, the killer receives money and somebody gets a notification. Substantially high amounts matter for those receiving it. Many put out bounties to receive notifications about a loss of the bounteed, so again it matters. Bounties are a temporary (sometimes permanent) ISK sink, so they matter here too. Reality. People. Hard to understand, I know. If you people will find a way to actually properly express your issues with bounty, then others might actually care enough to push this pointless whining beyond irrelevance.
Oh wow. A smartass.
No, solstic--whatever you are this year...
Bounties dont matter. My apparent lack of understanding -- of reality -- (in a spaceship game) and language ( please show me where I missed something...) must mean you are correct, eh? Also show me the whine?
Can I attack someone because they have a bounty? No.
Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.
Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.
Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.
You need meds, I think.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
101
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Posted - 2014.05.07 20:40:00 -
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-- Oh wow. A smartass. Thanks for admitting that I am indeed smarter than you.
-- No, solstic--whatever you are this year... Thanks for proving it.
-- Bounties dont matter. Thanks for admitting that you don't really know what you are typing or saying and also have no idea what I was actually writing in the last post.
-- of reality -- (in a spaceship game) Yep. It's a reality. Many call it "virtual reality", but it's a "reality" anyway. Especially EVE ONLINE, because in EVE ONLINE it's all about people, causality, interaction and stuff.
I don't expect you to understand this, of course. I'm the smart ass ... not you.
-- and language See above. And my other post.
-- Can I attack someone because they have a bounty? No. You can always attack anybody, anytime, anywhere and even if we're very, very strict, it still doesn't make bounty meaningless.
-- Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No. You can hunt them. You can kill them. You'll probably not make much out of it, though. Does that change anything in regards to bounties? No. See also: Above, regarding language.
-- Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope. Wow, you might actually be right with this one, but this again doesn't make bounty meaningless.
So ... let's see.
Logic ... nope. Semantics ... nope. Understanding of the actual issue ... nope.
You also don't seem to understand what "meaningless" means. Because, in the last post, I showed that they can and do have lots of meaning for lots of people.
As I have shown that lots of people can and do see lots of meaning in bounties, I can safely conclude that the issue lies with you ... and not them.
I'm a smartass ... ... from the perspective of a clueless person.
I agree. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries Order of the Exalted
527
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:28:00 -
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Why are some of my favorite forum trolls attacking each other? Don't we have a perfectly good carebear to pick on? OP, I offer a bounty removal service if you supply the ships. Let me know if your interested. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
664
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Posted - 2014.05.07 22:36:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote: I am so smart. Everyone who does not share my opinion is useless and knows nothing about eve or real life. This stems from differing opinions on the usefulness of broken game mechanics.
Thanks for the sperg wall. I have TL/DR'd for those not wanting to read through.
Go drink some "hot peppermint tea" and take your Valium.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Why are some of my favorite forum trolls attacking each other? Don't we have a perfectly good carebear to pick on? OP, I offer a bounty removal service if you supply the ships. Let me know if your interested.
I was sort of surprised myself. But a shot across the bow.... is a shot across the bow..... Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2846
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:31:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.
Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.
Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.
You need meds, I think.
st0ner smurf and D400 have claimed a LOT in bounties by indiscriminantly popping pods in highsec, and there's someone I've heard of that makes a career out of hunting and podding high bounty people. Someone did recently get a ~50m payout from my bounty too.
But most bounties mean nothing. I do love putting 315315 ISK bounties on miners that have just lost a ship and pod to the New Order, however. Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
664
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Posted - 2014.05.08 03:55:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.
Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.
Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.
You need meds, I think.
st0ner smurf and D400 have claimed a LOT in bounties by indiscriminantly popping pods in highsec, and there's someone I've heard of that makes a career out of hunting and podding high bounty people. Someone did recently get a ~50m payout from my bounty too. But most bounties mean nothing. I do love putting 315315 ISK bounties on miners that have just lost a ship and pod to the New Order, however.
Yeah, that's pretty much the skinny of it. I'm sure smurf and 400 types can make a good bit from it. Not my particular type of gameplay style though.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2848
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Posted - 2014.05.08 05:43:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.
Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.
Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.
You need meds, I think.
st0ner smurf and D400 have claimed a LOT in bounties by indiscriminantly popping pods in highsec, and there's someone I've heard of that makes a career out of hunting and podding high bounty people. Someone did recently get a ~50m payout from my bounty too. But most bounties mean nothing. I do love putting 315315 ISK bounties on miners that have just lost a ship and pod to the New Order, however. Yeah, that's pretty much the skinny of it. I'm sure smurf and 400 types can make a good bit from it. Not my particular type of gameplay style though.
I think the last person (whose name I don't know but they are #1 on the bounty hunter list) is an anti-pirate that runs locates on the higher bounty people, keeps intel on them, and then wardecs them if they operate in empire, catches them solo, pops them and smartbombs their pod before it can warp away using the techniques that James 315 developed when he used to wardec Orca pilots, kill them and smartbomb their pods in an Ishtar. Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
267
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Posted - 2014.05.08 06:33:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Can I make a career out of killing even the highest bountied players? No.
Does anyone with a huge bounty ever fly anything besides a gank cat? Nope.
Ergo, bounties are pointless. If you like to use them for evoking tears and getting killmail notices, I guess thats your thing. To the majority of us, bounties are a pointless joke. Go on, bounty me. Make it a big one. See if anyone cares.
You need meds, I think.
st0ner smurf and D400 have claimed a LOT in bounties by indiscriminantly popping pods in highsec, and there's someone I've heard of that makes a career out of hunting and podding high bounty people. Someone did recently get a ~50m payout from my bounty too. But most bounties mean nothing. I do love putting 315315 ISK bounties on miners that have just lost a ship and pod to the New Order, however. Yeah, that's pretty much the skinny of it. I'm sure smurf and 400 types can make a good bit from it. Not my particular type of gameplay style though. I think the last person (whose name I don't know but they are #1 on the bounty hunter list) is an anti-pirate that runs locates on the higher bounty people, keeps intel on them, and then wardecs them if they operate in empire, catches them solo, pops them and smartbombs their pod before it can warp away using the techniques that James 315 developed when he used to wardec Orca pilots, kill them and smartbomb their pods in an Ishtar.
And for the price of putting someone that high into bounties where some special person MIGHT take a crack at them you could hire an entire team of mercs to salt the earth for them, for quite a few weeks.
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