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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9639
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Posted - 2014.05.09 03:18:00 -
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I think it's more fun to live with the assumption that all humans are shitheads. That way you're pleasantly surprised every time you go out in daylight without seeing someone get gunned down in the streets. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
852
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Posted - 2014.05.09 03:33:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I think it's more fun to live with the assumption that all humans are shitheads. That way you're pleasantly surprised every time you go out in daylight without seeing someone get gunned down in the streets.
Not all humans are bad though. I would like to think that I am a good person not because of what I do but what I hope to do. A rich person can give millions to charity and do so because they desire fame. A poor person can spend a small amount of money feeding the hungry with nobody ever thanking them.
Who do you think is the better person? CSM 9 Candidate Philanthropist Polymath Savant Hero |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9639
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Posted - 2014.05.09 03:45:00 -
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The person who doesn't ask questions like that. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
1097
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Posted - 2014.05.09 07:25:00 -
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For anyone not aware, someone on the (in)famous internet forums "Something Awful" has stated that they got an e-mail telling them their character has been banned, despite the fact they haven't even logged in for about 6 years.
I guess this could be a total coincidence, as I'm 100% positive that CCP did all the appropriate research and double and triple checked their facts before banning accounts in reaction to a real world event that their community manager has take such a public and personal interest in.
I'm sure if it were to transpire that the wrong account was banned for whatever reason, CCP would be the first people to apologise and publically explain the situation to avoid more rumour mongering.
As the individual involved has already contacted customer support it's bound to be resolved soon and I'm sure they will get told why their account was banned, probably totally unrelated to this entire thing. I'm not really sure there is a great deal more to be said on the subject at the present time? "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Rain6637
Team Evil
14373
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:12:00 -
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Xenuria, you're nobody til somebody loves you, you're nobody til somebody cares.
Somebody cared about you and they got in a lot of trouble for it.
These days infamy is better anyway. You're the only person who can consider this a success, so live it up broski.
For Xenuria President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9649
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:22:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:For anyone not aware, someone on the (in)famous internet forums "Something Awful" has stated that they got an e-mail telling them their character has been banned, despite the fact they haven't even logged in for about 6 years.
I guess this could be a total coincidence, as I'm 100% positive that CCP did all the appropriate research and double and triple checked their facts before banning accounts in reaction to a real world event that their community manager has take such a public and personal interest in.
I'm sure if it were to transpire that the wrong account was banned for whatever reason, CCP would be the first people to apologise and publically explain the situation to avoid more rumour mongering.
As the individual involved has already contacted customer support it's bound to be resolved soon and I'm sure they will get told why their account was banned, probably totally unrelated to this entire thing. I'm not really sure there is a great deal more to be said on the subject at the present time? You may not be aware that several people have already said this and their posts got deleted. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Marsha Mallow
522
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:33:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:I'm sure if it were to transpire that the wrong account was banned for whatever reason, CCP would be the first people to apologise and publically explain the situation to avoid more rumour mongering. Your post is rumour mongering. We've been explicitly told not to discuss or pursue the identity of the banned players here. If you want to do that on external boards, go for it, but it's likely to backfire.
If the person in question had their account banned in error they can contact CCP themselves and resolve it. There's no need for hordes of CFC peasants to rush about demanding anything, other than the fact they are attention whoring slappers.
Why should CCP apologise to any group whether falsely accused or not if it's their own members inciting the gossip by running about reposting info and private messages from GMs? TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
429
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:32:00 -
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/09/ccp-bans-vandals-of-eve-online-monument
IGN replies are best you should read them. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Higgs Foton
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
94
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:45:00 -
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Ehhhmm, i noticed something odd. The gaming press, at least the Dutch and Belgium ones, claim the Goonswarm Federation sticker and the erasing of the Xenuria name are done by the same people. As far as i understand these are two unrelated incidents in which the sticker is seen as good fun (since it apparently was removed without problem). Maybe someone from CCP might want to look into this before another shitstorm emerges.
Though this again confirms my notion that people from the press are incredibly stupid and never research their sources. *Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. |
Vageena Clatoris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:50:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:Doesn't matter man even if you were thinking about posting that post you can't just post what you want to post in your post. But what if we posted that there was a post discussing the posting of the idea of posting that post he would post if he could?
POSTCEPTION ?
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Shivanthar
Thrilling Institution of TaTas Permanent Mental Syndrome
64
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:52:00 -
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Not only that my name is also on that monument, I feel deeply harrassed by those guys' actions against art. This is an attack to not only monument, but also to the all people whose name on that monument, to the CCP, to the art, to the craftsmanship. What in the world make you attack a monument like that? What was it that you try to establish?
Be a hardcore or casual player of any kind, by attacking to a meaningful monument, you have no humanity or respect inside you. No matter how you or your alliance is successful in the game, actions made while drunk is not an excuse, it may ease your punishment a bit, but you will be remembered as a bad people, as many other very bad people on this worlds history.
We all have differences here, but at best, we argue and may disagree with each other. Respect is another aspect, damaging is by all means you don't have on respect to the humanity. You've no respect to the world, I hope the action that CCP took against you will teach at least a bit of what world does to you when you go against them, be it an attacking to an art, a monument or another person.
Sorry for crappy English, feel extremely depressed and on rage... P.S: Not giving out names is a good action. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1726
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:15:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: While the community has been justifiably outraged and a number of people have requested that we release the ingame identities of those who carried out the act, we feel that this would be contrary to our privacy policies. As such we will deal with this incident in line with our current policies, and the identities of those responsible will remain confidential.
If only the American news media would get this concept. Don't make them famous. They should fade away in obscurity. No recognition. No publicity. Let them just deal with the fact that they are rendered nameless as they are shunned.
They won't be missed.
And just in case nobody's asked yet, can I have their stuff? That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1726
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:17:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Doc Fury wrote:What steps has CCP taken to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument? Sniper.
He's a CCP employee, even. You'll never see him post here, but his name is "CCP Headshotdoublekill".... That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9671
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:22:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:CCP Falcon wrote: While the community has been justifiably outraged and a number of people have requested that we release the ingame identities of those who carried out the act, we feel that this would be contrary to our privacy policies. As such we will deal with this incident in line with our current policies, and the identities of those responsible will remain confidential.
If only the American news media would get this concept. They understand the concept. They choose to ignore it because the media is a business and money is the deciding factor. They get money from media frenzies. And you get media frenzies from circus trials and national scandals. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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JP Nakamura
Union of Intergalactic Miners and Nano Assemblers
32
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:45:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:They should award confiscated stuff to those who ask first. And remain unscrubbed. *holds out hand Or we could have a CCP event monthly for confiscated stuff. For community and stuff. Mining competitions... good posting...
Actually ... and here's an idea ... use assets confiscated from Perma Banned Acounts as an ISK sink and auction the stuff off via Contracts from "CONCORD Impound".
They can choose what/how to release things (things like T2 BPOs they might want to keep 'for the state'), and set base prices. Lets them recycle rarer items back into the community that might be in the toons hangers and brings the Whoop Whoop of the space Police to a whole new level ... introduces the Space Marshal come to haul your stuff away.
I look forward to the pre-auction catalog of seized and impounded assets.
(I also expect my percentage for this idea in the usual place ) CCP: 10+ years of Harvesting players Tears -á(latest efforts being Source Limited Edition, and Alliance Logo Revised Policies) |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9681
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:36:00 -
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That won't happen because in the even of an ban repeal they'll want to be able to return the player's accounts to them as they were. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers
191
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:40:00 -
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Where there was darkness, there is light.
Thanks Falcon & the folks at CCP. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5547
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:51:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Doc Fury wrote:What steps has CCP taken to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument? Sniper. He's a CCP employee, even. You'll never see him post here, but his name is "CCP Headshotdoublekill"....
CCP No-see-um.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Aiwanwan Buwangun
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.05.10 16:33:00 -
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That's why I like the game and its community.
All happened so far have taught you the importance to follow the rules. No breaking EULA, no insulting other community members. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
224
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:42:00 -
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Pretty saddened that this occurred, but I think CCP handled it well. I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca |
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Entrothy
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.11 19:10:00 -
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I approve of the way this was handled. Good job CCP. |
piesaerty
Pro Synergy
0
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Posted - 2014.05.12 02:22:00 -
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CCP Falcon a few questions:
1) Can you confirm the reason for leniency on one person involved was the "owned up" or was there another reason for one perpetrator to have a lesser punishment?
2) Are repair works being carried out on the monument?
3) Can you state if there is any "ongoing out of game proceedings" in regards to recovering the cost of this damage? and if you can if there is or is not.
4) The obligatory can I have there stuffs? or if not me can the people that assisted with the swift resolution of these actions have there stuffs? |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
1097
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Posted - 2014.05.12 12:50:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:I'm sure if it were to transpire that the wrong account was banned for whatever reason, CCP would be the first people to apologise and publically explain the situation to avoid more rumour mongering. Your post is rumour mongering. We've been explicitly told not to discuss or pursue the identity of the banned players here. If you want to do that on external boards, go for it, but it's likely to backfire. If the person in question had their account banned in error they can contact CCP themselves and resolve it. There's no need for hordes of CFC peasants to rush about demanding anything, other than the fact they are attention whoring slappers. Why should CCP apologise to any group whether falsely accused or not if it's their own members inciting the gossip by running about reposting info and private messages from GMs?
So my post is rumour mongering because I said IF someone's account was banned incorrectly that I, in my personal opinion, think they would likely apologise over the issue, considering that their community manager has gone to such lengths as to say he feels so strongly about the whole thing.
If you have CCP saying that acts are "disgusting" and someone gets banned wrongly, which then becomes public knowledge (rightly or wrongly) I'm sure CCP would acknowledge the mistake. If they didn't it would probably reflect pretty poorly on them.
So whether I am a part of a "horde of CFC peasants" or not, my post clearly isn;t rumour mongering otherwise it would have been deleted as it is against the forum rules. There is no forum rule about saying there is no need to discuss the specifics as I'm sure CCP would admit if they made a mistake.
Maybe you should concentrate on reading what people have to say and thinking about why they are saying it and what they mean before replying, instead of seeing someone's alliance ticker and working yourself up into a GRR GOON rage before mashing your hammy fingers onto your keyboard to reply with a load of rubbish about rumour mongering when I did nothing of the sort. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2751
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Posted - 2014.05.12 15:30:00 -
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I see quite a bit of discussion about the act of vandalism involving the scratching out of a name. But I have seen little about the first act of vandalism, the attachment of an alliance logo to the monument. What has CCP done about that? Yes, it was a lesser incident, but it was still a defacement of public property. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
59
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:58:00 -
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While i might not personally like the style of the monument, thats down to personal taste, i do understand the reason it was erected and even i was disappointed that someone would go to the length of defacing it, no matter how much of a puffy the guy is or isn't (i have no idea who the owner of the name removed was) even i wouldn't damage it :/
Glad to see you guys figured out those involved and lets hope they take this as a lesson against doing stupid **** while drunk, i hope the repairs aren't expensive although i'm sure if you set up a donation box there would be some pilots willing to assist if its a large bill |
Rain6637
Team Evil
14386
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Posted - 2014.05.12 22:05:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I see quite a bit of discussion about the act of vandalism involving the scratching out of a name. But I have seen little about the first act of vandalism, the attachment of an alliance logo to the monument. What has CCP done about that? Yes, it was a lesser incident, but it was still a defacement of public property. as a result of my time in the military where it is a tradition to leave one's unit patch or logo sticker in high traffic locations abroad, it didn't strike me as out of the ordinary. Between the two acts, one is related to deep tradition and the other is vandalism.
edit: I'm not saying it should take place on the monument, but this would be more common in the EVE playerbase if more player organizations had a level of pride and coordination, cohesion, identity... to have stickers of their own.
I suspect if you had a collection of all goon trinkets ever made, you could open a gift shop. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9743
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Posted - 2014.05.13 00:48:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I see quite a bit of discussion about the act of vandalism involving the scratching out of a name. But I have seen little about the first act of vandalism, the attachment of an alliance logo to the monument. What has CCP done about that? Yes, it was a lesser incident, but it was still a defacement of public property. Damage done = 0. Take your feigned indignation elsewhere. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Rain6637
Team Evil
14386
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Posted - 2014.05.13 01:05:00 -
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TOTALLY have something to prove around non-goonion members though. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
Shurgin Ambraelle
The Flying Dead Bloodline.
6
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Posted - 2014.05.13 03:43:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:I see quite a bit of discussion about the act of vandalism involving the scratching out of a name. But I have seen little about the first act of vandalism, the attachment of an alliance logo to the monument. What has CCP done about that? Yes, it was a lesser incident, but it was still a defacement of public property. as a result of my time in the military where it is a tradition to leave one's unit patch or logo sticker in high traffic locations abroad, it didn't strike me as out of the ordinary. Between the two acts, one is related to deep tradition and the other is vandalism. edit: I'm not saying it should take place on the monument, but this would be more common in the EVE playerbase if more player organizations had a level of pride and coordination, cohesion, identity... to have stickers of their own. I suspect if you had a collection of all goon trinkets ever made, you could open a gift shop.
I have to agree with you about this concerning the Goons. I have nothing against them I have fought them in the past in PVP and think they bring some controversy to the Universe. Even the occasional local rant but everytime I popped one of them I always got the same response... gf. The sticker, although a gag, was not intended to be permanent therefor I believe they respected the gift CCP has given us. The Vandalism, although it has been put to bed, still irritates me. It would like me going to the 9/11 monument and scratching off a name of someone whom I hated. Regardless of who this person is or what their beliefs are they made Eve what it is today. If anything props to the Goons for being better than some of the Alliances in the respect they are all in it together. They have banded and enjoy Eve to its limits and it runs out into real world. If you ask a Goon, which I am, what they thought of the Vandalism I believe the response would be negative towards the perpatrators. Doesn't mean I won't pod them just for being a goon. -The Gene Pool Could Use a Little Chlorine!! Proud Member of the Flying Dead/Bloodline
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Rain6637
Team Evil
14386
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Posted - 2014.05.13 04:09:00 -
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wouldn't be surprised if a goon challenge coin gets minted, if one or several haven't been already. also, if more player organizations had stickers, the Harpa convention center would have problems
wait.
I haven't attended fanfest, so I don't know: how bad is the sticker problem at the businesses involved in hosting it? the bars, restaurants, hotels, etc President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Rainfleet Mk III-á |
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