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Nalelmir Ahashion
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
425
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:33:00 -
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went full speed ahead, sold my stuff, got few frigs and went to caldari fw space.
Started with high sec entry point got some ships and started scouting for trouble....
first couple of hours were either blobs of 4+ ships or random neutral...
Went deeper into low sec...
first rifter... second rifter... third rifter... and more...
all of them scrammed and webbed then they just warp out like nothing happened and runs away...
ok.. so I went to plex sites hopped greedy farmers will jump in...
After 6 hours of "FW" and pvp attempts Finally I got a battle.... I was attacked by... Pirate (cheers for him) :X thank god for those at least I got a chance to "try" and shoot someone... then to my bad luck he was in Electronic attack frig using ECM with his ship bonus so I couldn't lock on him, then even with overheated prop mod he was faster then me so in the end even in the one fight I got today.. not single shot...
Really thought FW was lot more 1vs1 or small scale combats over the plexes, then I learned that unless a system has a station in it people won't try to capture it and just let it flip to the other side so they could get more LPs when they retake it.
TL;DR Disappointed, 6+ hours not single pewpew in lowsec pvp zone, as miner I killed more stuff including gankers. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1280
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:36:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:went full speed ahead, sold my stuff, got few frigs and went to caldari fw space.
Started with high sec entry point got some ships and started scouting for trouble....
first couple of hours were either blobs of 4+ ships or random neutral...
Went deeper into low sec...
first rifter... second rifter... third rifter... and more...
all of them scrammed and webbed then they just warp out like nothing happened and runs away...
ok.. so I went to plex sites hopped greedy farmers will jump in...
After 6 hours of "FW" and pvp attempts Finally I got a battle.... I was attacked by... Pirate (cheers for him) :X thank god for those at least I got a chance to "try" and shoot someone... then to my bad luck he was in Electronic attack frig using ECM with his ship bonus so I couldn't lock on him, then even with overheated prop mod he was faster then me so in the end even in the one fight I got today.. not single shot...
Really thought FW was lot more 1vs1 or small scale combats over the plexes, then I learned that unless a system has a station in it people won't try to capture it and just let it flip to the other side so they could get more LPs when they retake it.
TL;DR Disappointed, 6+ hours not single pewpew in lowsec pvp zone, as miner I killed more stuff including gankers.
Some systems are better than others for finding fights. I could give you what the systems were 8 months ago but they might have changed.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
425
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:38:00 -
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thought as much but part of the problem with PVP in eve is that you need to replace ships so 10 jumps radius from your base is pretty pita to manage... "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Heiian Conglomerate
774
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:39:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:went full speed ahead, sold my stuff, got few frigs and went to caldari fw space.
Started with high sec entry point got some ships and started scouting for trouble....
first couple of hours were either blobs of 4+ ships or random neutral...
Went deeper into low sec...
first rifter... second rifter... third rifter... and more...
all of them scrammed and webbed then they just warp out like nothing happened and runs away...
ok.. so I went to plex sites hopped greedy farmers will jump in...
After 6 hours of "FW" and pvp attempts Finally I got a battle.... I was attacked by... Pirate (cheers for him) :X thank god for those at least I got a chance to "try" and shoot someone... then to my bad luck he was in Electronic attack frig using ECM with his ship bonus so I couldn't lock on him, then even with overheated prop mod he was faster then me so in the end even in the one fight I got today.. not single shot...
Really thought FW was lot more 1vs1 or small scale combats over the plexes, then I learned that unless a system has a station in it people won't try to capture it and just let it flip to the other side so they could get more LPs when they retake it.
TL;DR Disappointed, 6+ hours not single pewpew in lowsec pvp zone, as miner I killed more stuff including gankers.
next time fit warpcore stabs and cloak. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
425
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:40:00 -
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people please stop quoting the entire OP it's painful. and why would I want warp core stab and cloak ? I looked for pew pew :x
"What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
52
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:42:00 -
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Then go back to mining and ganking bankers. The thousands of people that actually do fw have no issue with fights.
Why not only care about system stations, would you capture a random field or a town? |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
425
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:48:00 -
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why not? Ain't it factional warfare? shouldn't we work as faction to capture as much ground as possible?
and man I was looking for pvp no one wants to fight unless they are in blobed fleet..
I really liked that pirate I met first guy with balls to fight. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
52
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:51:00 -
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Go plex in nisuwa. Have fun |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
425
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Posted - 2014.05.07 22:15:00 -
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I have bloody 1 B to burn on pvp ships why I'll want to plex?
also after few more extensive searches I've found a guy from the GalMil willing to fight. He was in incursus and I was in merlin. I managed to hold out pretty well even got him to 20% armor but due to the fact he had T2 scout drone and that I had to switch targets and kill his drone I faced a problem there.
At any rate was fun for the 20 seconds it lasted...
more frigs! "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
153
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Posted - 2014.05.07 22:19:00 -
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Where are you even looking. There's so many fights to be found. |
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
425
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Posted - 2014.05.07 23:21:00 -
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The blobs man...
few more hours invested...
So far it's mix of the following: Blob fleet enter system = > all other side of the militia runs away. Few non fleeted opponents in system = > runs away like pussies. Once in few dozen jumps you find a fight... hell even pair of navy comet + condor ran away from me for some reason...
overall Eve pvp at least in faction warfare is extremely lacking... had to jump like 12-20 jumps into lowsec from the "hub" where I get my ships in order to find someone to shoot at. boring like hell.... maybe should have been a pirate or something.. who knows.. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
889
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Posted - 2014.05.07 23:46:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:The blobs man...
few more hours invested...
So far it's mix of the following: Blob fleet enter system = > all other side of the militia runs away. Few non fleeted opponents in system = > runs away like pussies. Once in few dozen jumps you find a fight... hell even pair of navy comet + condor ran away from me for some reason...
overall Eve pvp at least in faction warfare is extremely lacking... had to jump like 12-20 jumps into lowsec from the "hub" where I get my ships in order to find someone to shoot at. boring like hell.... maybe should have been a pirate or something.. who knows..
The guy with 11 kills and 10 deaths in his entire career is absolutely qualified to make sweeping judgements regarding FW.
This character smells like a caerain alt.
Just in case you are not his alt, i would suggest that if you are practically alone raising complaint after complaint, perhaps the problem is with how you are going about things. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2103
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Posted - 2014.05.08 00:10:00 -
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I generally get at least 2-3 fights per hour on a really slow night.
You must either have epicly bad luck or you are only going for 1v1's. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Bearded Forum Alt
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.05.08 00:31:00 -
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Honestly: if you just want the fights, and don't care about the LP, then just go rogue.
1) Fit a stack of frigates you like to fly. Don't skimp on the t2 guns and tank. 2) Open the map and make a 20+ jump route through FW space. 3) Fly your route as quickly as you can, scanning the plexs as you go. 4) Frig in a plex? Warp in and attack.
If you move quickly enough, you almost never see large gangs. You'll find lots of farmers, but they need killing, too.
I have been roaming FW like this for a couple of months, mostly solo, and I have never spent more than 15 minutes looking for someone to engage.
I should point out that solo PVP is a very harsh teacher. And that many fights which begin solo will not end that way. But good lord, will this recipe get you fights. |
Taoist Dragon
Black Rebel Rifter Club
966
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Posted - 2014.05.08 02:35:00 -
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If isk isn't an issue and you aren't bothered about the RP side of things with FW then just go pirate.
The number of fights depends a lot on what TZ you fly and how active you are in 'finding' them.
The whole blob v me thing is a way of life in eve. If you don't want to fight outnumbered then you just accept that and be happy with a smaller number of fights. Or you can try and split up 'the blob' FW plex's are a good way to do this.
FW is historically the most 'active' area in the game with regards to pvp. But there are a multitude of different factors in how mnay fights you will actually get. You need to figure them out for yourself. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Circle-Of-Two
1135
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Posted - 2014.05.08 03:20:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:The blobs man...
few more hours invested...
So far it's mix of the following: Blob fleet enter system = > all other side of the militia runs away. Few non fleeted opponents in system = > runs away like pussies. Once in few dozen jumps you find a fight... hell even pair of navy comet + condor ran away from me for some reason...
You are playing an MMO. If you expect 1v1s in an MMO then the problem is with your expectations.
Stop trying to play the game the opposite way its designed to be played. Fly with friends or you will keep dying to people with friends.
Having looked at your lossboard it seems that some of your fits are ok but predictable. (A few are terribad - like the small shield booster merlin)
You seem to only be carrying short range ammo in your Merlins and only ever fitting dps mods to lows. A lot of the time speed/agility or tracking and damage projection are more important than dps.
Don't use MASBs on Merlins (especially until you can use t2 neutrons - then carry navy antimatter and null ammo). MASBs are junk and you will almost always die during reload.
There are way better options for active shield tanks when flying resist bonused Caldari ships without the stupid reload times. Docked since 2009. |
ValentinaDLM
Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
522
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Posted - 2014.05.08 09:54:00 -
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I am pretty terrible, but I still find fights in FW space without too much of an issue. Granted many of them are not "goodfights" as I am pretty sure every solo kill I have had so far this month I have either outclassed by ship or SP.
Thing is though, even though they were not in the majority some of them were really good fights, particularity I enjoyed the dessie gang from 24eme Legion Etrangere with their 3x Dragoon and 1x Coercer, with some of those dragoons having RR in the highs, that was a cool concept and it made for a fun fight.
My point, if you look, there are people willing to fight, and failing that, you can put 2x scrams on a Keres and catch farmers, because most do not have 4x WCS, so that works pretty well. |
Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
574
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:05:00 -
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Visit Black Rise resorts. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
681
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:42:00 -
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Stop by Nisuwa and ask for a 1v1 in local. If do not ask you will get blobbed by at least 6 boosted cunts looking for an easy killmail. nom nom
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Subsparx
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
16
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:54:00 -
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People do flip the systems that don't have stations. I believe you are referring specifically to Vaaralen in this case, as we let you know to give priority to the alliance home systems for any de-plexing efforts as systems without stations cannot be taken by Gallente and used to stage against us. That was a strategic move, but by no means do we ignore the systems just to get more LP. If you were looking for 1v1 fights, de-plexing gets those fights. People in our corporation post kills all day just de-plexing Teskanen alone. IGÇÖve seen several kills posted just this morning.
There are plenty of fights in low sec, and as a solo pilot it's not unreasonable to get at least 1 non farmer fight per hour. You mention not wanting to plex, but plexing is a good way to control the fights and have them on your terms. Fit a brawling frigate, get into a novice plex and wait, and generally you'll find a fight.
While there are a lot of farmers yes, realize that in addition to all those farmers you are chasing out of plexes, others are doing the same thing looking for fights. Sometimes waiting nets you the fights you want. Otherwise, adjust tactics. Tired of farmers? Hunt some of them for the sheer enjoyment of slowing down their progress. Put 2 scrams on a Crow, a Nemesis, whatever, pick your poison, and kill them. ItGÇÖs like shooting fish in a barrel and can be quite satisfying while you are waiting for a decent fight. Additionally, if you are looking for solo fights you should ALWAYS look up your target on killboards prior to engaging. This gives valuable information, from whether they are stabbed (so you know if you should waste your time), fits, player efficiency, whether they mostly solo, etc.
As for 4+ "blobs", those guys are roaming specifically for fights. Both Gallente and neutral parties will generally agree to some kind of set terms if you try to arrange them for a fight, as that's the reason we all live in low sec. The PVP. It's really not a gank blob until you start seeing 20+. Anything below that is largely considered to be small gang skirmishing. You can also look in to up-shipping and soloing against them. A good cruiser pilot can take a few destroyers no problem depending on the skill of the destroyer pilots.
Replacing the ships can indeed be painful, but that's why you stage things in low sec and patrol near home. If you find yourself roaming far from your home system you may want to stage additional ships further out.
One suggestion is while youGÇÖre trying to figure out the good spots for fighting go join a fleet and get familiar with the area with the safety of numbers. At the time you were making these posts you were still in my corporation and there were no less than 3 concurrent alliance fleets out at a time doing various things from gate camping to roaming. The different systems all have different activity depending on the time of day. The map is also a great tool for figuring out where to go. Look at the number of jumps in systems. Look at 24 hour kills and 1 hour kills to get an idea for the activity in system. Look for recent pod kills to avoid gate camps and/or smart bombers. There are a variety of tools at your disposal to help you find fights, and the EU time zone is one of the most highly active times in Faction Warfare. Finding fights isnGÇÖt difficult, you just need more experience in knowing how to find them. That comes with time.
CEO of Crimson Serpent Syndicate --áwww.crimsonserpent.com Chairman of Heiian Conglomerate --áwww.heiian.com Owner of FWC - www.factionwarfare.com |
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Biljana Janeva
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:20:00 -
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Dumbass your title is misleading as you were in Aideron Robotics in the past before Crimson Serpent. Additionally, shortly after this post you got 2 more 1v1 fights within the next 2 hours before you left militia. |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
23
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:32:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote: TL;DR I'm a dirty liar and FW is broken.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1305
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Posted - 2014.05.08 23:43:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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erg cz
Sliperer
65
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:23:00 -
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Use Dotlan map. There is a special map for FW and you can see, where ppl actually do fight. |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
723
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:00:00 -
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I'm looking forward to reading about your 2nd and 3rd day in Caldari FW.... High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:12:00 -
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Good Sir;
FW is best enjoyed novus plexing with a good book while you wait for the fights to come to you. Flying around and around a search path looking for victims makes you the victim--you could be doing your homework while earning LP.
If you pick the right ship everyone will expect you to have 3wcs and to run--so use that to your advantage.
You also won't run into gate camps if you stay put.
Just accept that eve is a very very boring game, and adapt.
your humble servent SeaSaw |
DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
244
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:43:00 -
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Plexing is a lot like fishing. You cast your line, and if you have the right bait, you might catch something nice. In my own experience, there is plenty of 1v1 to be had, but 4 guys is definietly not a blob. Small gangs are also a big part of FW, and you might find some enjoyment in that.
One thing about PVP in eve, and this is just about anywhere in Eve, not just lowsec: People will often only engage if they feel like they have a solid chance of winning. Many of my own kills come from people engaging me in ships you would think are superior to the one I am flying, or even 2v1 against me, and then they might get a nasty surprise. A lot of the people who have already responded to you in this thread also are quite good at that tactic.
Big suggestion for you here: If you want plex fights, plex in a transit system that a lot of people are flying through, an enemy held home system, or next door to an enemy held home system, especially on a route typically used by people leaving that system.
Keep your eye on short scan. If you can't take the fight that's coming to you, warp off and post a funny animated gif in local. Maybe someone will agree to a 1v1, maybe not. Not every fight will be ideal, but if you look, you'll find there are many GFs to be had. CSM9 Factional Warfare/Lowsec Representative Radio Host, Blogger, Lowsec Resident, PvP Afficionado. http://funkybacon.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/FunkyBacon |
Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
758
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:07:00 -
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DJ FunkyBacon wrote:but 4 guys is definietly not a blob.
It's the story of EVE. Sit on a plex, have two guys dropping on you to kill you, then bring in your two friends and feast not just on the killmail, but also on the "damn blobbers" that'll happen in local ten seconds later.
But without going to echo all the good/reasonable advice that has been given already: Stop bitching, stay on target and you'll learn your way around and how to get fights where you actually stand a chance. It's a learning experience and if you're determined to do this completely on your own you're in for a rough patch ahead but will end up the better player than the majority of EVE players. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
271
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:21:00 -
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Eve is rock, paper, scissors. Almost all PVP pilots will engage when they think they have 50/50 chance of winning and will engage with lesser odds when the kill is worth the loss (ie kill a shiny ship with a T1 frig). That being said, if you see a bunch of paper out there, fly scissors that looks like a rock and you will get a fight. QCATS is recruiting:-á https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896299 |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Heiian Conglomerate
779
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:56:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:people please stop quoting the entire OP it's painful. and why would I want warp core stab and cloak ? I looked for pew pew :x
you got the fight but it seems that it was not the fight you were looking for so you does not count it as pvp. |
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