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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.09 04:07:00 -
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[url]http://brotherswithnogame.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1292186522_triple_facepalm.jpg[/url]Flex Carter wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Doc Fury wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:I really don't get this thread.
Two weeks ago no one even heard of the gecko. Now we all have free geckos, and people complain that the free stuff we got won't be as wtfbbqpwn in 1 month.
Y'all are wierd. Happens around here all the time. People bitching about finding $10 in the street because it wasn't $20. I thought the complaining was because folk found $20 in the street only to be told that very shortly said $20 would in fact be worth $10. Pretty much this... Everyone started making big plans with their free 20 bucks but soon discovered the next day we were being slipped a Ten-spot instead. A little ungrateful I agree but damn it, I had some big plans for my 20 bucks....
I have no words for either of you. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Barton Breau
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.09 04:30:00 -
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So many MBAs thinking bait and switch is a good tactic in this thread, its not pretty. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 06:09:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Put more simply: CCP put something in the game, knowingly in a much stronger state than what they intend for the game. Do you see why this causes problems? yes, you get dumb people crying nerf where there is none. |
Dave stark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 06:18:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Doc Fury wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:I really don't get this thread.
Two weeks ago no one even heard of the gecko. Now we all have free geckos, and people complain that the free stuff we got won't be as wtfbbqpwn in 1 month.
Y'all are wierd. Happens around here all the time. People bitching about finding $10 in the street because it wasn't $20. I thought the complaining was because folk found $20 in the street only to be told that very shortly said $20 would in fact be worth $10.
actually, they're complaining that they found -ú20 in the street, and then the price of their favourite thing went up. except they seem to think it's an issue with their find, rather than an issue with the pricing. |
JC Anderson
State Protectorate Caldari State
1097
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Posted - 2014.05.09 06:26:00 -
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This reminds me of the dramiel for some reason... I mean right after it was buffed and then up to its eventual nerf not long after. ;)
Only difference is it wasnt limited the way geckos are. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9640
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Posted - 2014.05.09 06:34:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Put more simply: CCP put something in the game, knowingly in a much stronger state than what they intend for the game. Do you see why this causes problems? yes, you get dumb people crying nerf where there is none. Still waiting on the source of that definition. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2352
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Posted - 2014.05.09 06:35:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Doc Fury wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:I really don't get this thread.
Two weeks ago no one even heard of the gecko. Now we all have free geckos, and people complain that the free stuff we got won't be as wtfbbqpwn in 1 month.
Y'all are wierd. Happens around here all the time. People bitching about finding $10 in the street because it wasn't $20. I thought the complaining was because folk found $20 in the street only to be told that very shortly said $20 would in fact be worth $10. actually, they're complaining that they found -ú20 in the street, and then the price of their favourite thing went up. except they seem to think it's an issue with their find, rather than an issue with the pricing.
Don't blame me for inflation. This is not a signature. |
Dave Stark
5397
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Posted - 2014.05.09 06:53:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Put more simply: CCP put something in the game, knowingly in a much stronger state than what they intend for the game. Do you see why this causes problems? yes, you get dumb people crying nerf where there is none. Still waiting on the source of that definition. keep waiting, i have no interest in really having a discussion with you. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2352
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Posted - 2014.05.09 07:06:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Put more simply: CCP put something in the game, knowingly in a much stronger state than what they intend for the game. Do you see why this causes problems? yes, you get dumb people crying nerf where there is none. Still waiting on the source of that definition. keep waiting, i have no interest in really having a discussion with you.
Did not like his definition, so in effect you accused him of making one up to suit his argument, so you made one up to suit your own instead.
+1 to James then. This is not a signature. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 07:11:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Put more simply: CCP put something in the game, knowingly in a much stronger state than what they intend for the game. Do you see why this causes problems? yes, you get dumb people crying nerf where there is none. Still waiting on the source of that definition. keep waiting, i have no interest in really having a discussion with you. Did not like his definition, so in effect you accused him of making one up to suit his argument, so you made one up to suit your own instead. +1 to James then.
actually, he changed his very definition just to have an argument with me, go back a few pages and see his comment about the tengu and heavy missiles.
the very simple fact is that nerf or buff relates to a change; the gecko isn't being changed. can't buff or nerf something that isn't being changed. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9647
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Posted - 2014.05.09 07:39:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:actually, he changed his very definition Yeah, that can happen when there's no official definition to work from, which is something you kind of need for your argument to hold any water. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Dave Stark
5399
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Posted - 2014.05.09 07:41:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Dave Stark wrote:actually, he changed his very definition Yeah, that can happen when there's no official definition to work from, which is something you kind of need for your argument to hold any water.
it holds water fine.
if we removed everything that isn't a gecko change from the kronos expansion, then deployed kronos... well it'd be the fastest patch in the history of eve, and the gecko would remain as it is (because you know, not getting nerfed) |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9648
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:04:00 -
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Except when we add the other changes that aren't to the Gecko, suddenly the Gecko has 25% lower DPS. It's directly affected by a change. That change may as well have been to it. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Dave Stark
5399
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:08:00 -
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welcome to about 7 pages ago james. do try and keep up, dear. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2636
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:27:00 -
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I think CCP should remove the Gecko on patch day.
That way entitled prats will have no perceived nerf to complain about. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
stoicfaux
4783
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:48:00 -
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Compromise: CCP introduces the Guristas Drone Specialization skill.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3189
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Posted - 2014.05.09 11:55:00 -
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it is a dps nerf and noone should care since gecko's probably designed for kronos and the rattlesnake anyway. can we start complaining about something more important please this thead is sooooo boring |
Pubbie Spy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
52
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:03:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:If we didn't get anything for EVE's birthday few would have noticed and even fewer would have cared.
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Those were all pretty minor. I suppose the Gnosis does come close.
I mean I see your point but still, if you're going to release something, don't release it with blatantly inflated strength for a month just because you think it'll be nice.
James Amril-Kesh wrote:The stats issue is a huge part of why I feel like they're gimmicks though. It would have been fine if they were released with realistic stats, but they weren't. They have artificially inflated stats for no reason other than the fact that they were released too early.
James Amril-Kesh wrote: Except a month of overpowered drones that everyone gets has a much more profound effect on game balance than some AT prize ships that mostly won't even see combat at all outside of the AT.
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Except when we add the other changes that aren't to the Gecko, suddenly the Gecko has 25% lower DPS. It's directly affected by a change. That change may as well have been to it.
Show us on the doll where the bad Gecko touched you. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1148
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:28:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Dave Stark wrote:actually, he changed his very definition Yeah, that can happen when there's no official definition to work from, which is something you kind of need for your argument to hold any water. it holds water fine. if we removed everything that isn't a gecko change from the kronos expansion, then deployed kronos... well it'd be the fastest patch in the history of eve, and the gecko would remain as it is (because you know, not getting nerfed) Which means removing the drone interfacing changes and the compensation to the other drones to counteract it, which are the elements which constitute the Gecko nerf. Thus in that case, yes, there would be no gecko nerf as it effectiveness in the game as a whole would remain unchanged. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:35:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thus in that case, yes, there would be no gecko nerf as it effectiveness in the game as a whole would remain unchanged.
exactly, there is no gecko nerf. |
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1148
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:36:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thus in that case, yes, there would be no gecko nerf as it effectiveness in the game as a whole would remain unchanged. exactly, there is no gecko nerf. Too bad that isn't what is happening and there is a gecko nerf. Also, selective quoting does not a valid argument make. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:58:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thus in that case, yes, there would be no gecko nerf as it effectiveness in the game as a whole would remain unchanged. exactly, there is no gecko nerf. Too bad that isn't what is happening and there is a gecko nerf. Also, selective quoting does not a valid argument make. except there isn't a gecko nerf, read the thread.
i wouldn't have to selectively quote, if you'd read the thread and not **** post. |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
367
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:01:00 -
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You neckbeards are adorable, but you're shitposting your way through a thread that doesn't need it.
Here's what you need to do: start a new thread entitled "What is the definition of 'nerf'" and then get all junior high debate team in that thread. Be as oblivious and illogical as you want.
Hell, I'll start it for you: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4573104#post4573104 I am not an alt of Chribba. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1149
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:04:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Thus in that case, yes, there would be no gecko nerf as it effectiveness in the game as a whole would remain unchanged. exactly, there is no gecko nerf. Too bad that isn't what is happening and there is a gecko nerf. Also, selective quoting does not a valid argument make. except there isn't a gecko nerf, read the thread. i wouldn't have to selectively quote, if you'd read the thread and not **** post. I've been involved in the thread quite a bit and responded to your claims on several occasions. I've been reading and responding. My conclusion was unchanged because as of yet you haven't countered the fact that the output of the drone is changing even if the base stats aren't. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:05:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:the base stats aren't. hence, it's not being nerfed. you've been told several times. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2357
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:07:00 -
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This thread should be locked for lack of content.
Please. This is not a signature. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1149
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:08:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:the base stats aren't. hence, it's not being nerfed. you've been told several times. Yes, it is. A nerf to a skill is a nerf to the items using that skill, conceded by even Tippia indirectly. |
Dave Stark
5448
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:11:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:the base stats aren't. hence, it's not being nerfed. you've been told several times. Yes, it is. A nerf to a skill is a nerf to the items using that skill, conceded by even Tippia indirectly. nobody has ever denied that drone interfacing is being nerfed. in fact, we've pointed it out several times. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4041
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:16:00 -
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Dave's DPS may be low, but he's tanking like a trooper. "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1149
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:16:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:the base stats aren't. hence, it's not being nerfed. you've been told several times. Yes, it is. A nerf to a skill is a nerf to the items using that skill, conceded by even Tippia indirectly. nobody has ever denied that drone interfacing is being nerfed. in fact, we've pointed it out several times. Which is a nerf to all drones save those being compensated. The Gecko is not being compensated, thus it is being nerfed. |
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