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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6223
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:33:00 -
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Pilots;
I recently discovered a team of Guristas personnel in one of my hangars, servicing a gift of Gecko-class superheavy drones, and then learned that these have been distributed widely among capsuleers. What in the maker's name is going on here? I know that gifts from institutions are often routed through hangar security without so much as a peep, but every time it makes me twitch and results in a good twenty or thirty personnel being removed from security duty.
Have any of you heard anything about this? Is it-- some sort of recruitment drive? A demonstration of wealth to impress us?
I'm-- just a bit confused, and a bit concerned. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
Tahrmal Nalthkh
Disciples of Ston
121
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:39:00 -
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I would say there is violent intent of some kind behind this move. None of the three pilots of DSTON have discovered any such weapons in our hangars. They must be aware that we would never use them.
Dr. Tahrmal Nalthkh CEO, DSTON Rescue Pilot |
Gosakumori Noh
Seraglio Hastatus Hagia Sophia
651
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:41:00 -
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I adore geckos! Tiny little quick sneaky things... where is it!?
What is that?
No. No, sweetie, that is not a gecko.
That is a sell order. |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1179
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:48:00 -
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There's an old saying that has a number of variations, all involving the base form of "Don't look a gift X in the Y". I think my favorite combination over the years was "Dominix" and "drone bay".
I think you are overthinking the issue. Given the Guristas' known distaste for capsuleers, I find it rather unlikely they would go through the trouble of giving every capsuleer with an active license a gift of such value. Even more unlikely that they'd have access to a full list of said capsuleers. It seems more likely that a large cache of the drones was recovered by CONCORD or one of the Four, and then subsequently distributed among the capsuleer population.
In any case, I look forward to getting some time to tinker with the things. If they're anything like the modified Dragonfly fighters that a quick glance suggests they are, they might be good for a joyride or two. Or more. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6223
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:01:00 -
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Wait-- these are piloted?
I'm going to have to recall the personnel that were discovered. Fortunately, the Watch hasn't had them long. Hm.
I suppose I'll have to have my ground crews do a work-up of these drones, and then see how they actually perform. I'd been thinking to mothball them in a corner of the hangar for a while, but.... Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
568
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:04:00 -
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It is a Gurista bribe. The tech looks good but I recommend examining the things end to end for malicious intent. Trust it as much as you would a Gurista soldier on board your ship. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3616
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:29:00 -
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about as much as you can trust anyone else, then. Heck, the Guristas have a refreshing habit of honesty on those few occasions where they ever care to play their hand at all. Give me an unabashed scoundrel over a disingenuous custodian any day. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
4625
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:32:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Trust it as much as you would a Gurista soldier on board your ship. So... significantly more than I'd trust anyone expressing sympathy for Sansha's Nation?
If a Guristas soldier is on my ship, it's for one of two reasons - he's either there to do me and mine harm, or he's there because I trust him enough to invite him onboard. There's no middle ground and no deception in that. Mane 614
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Jaret Victorian
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:49:00 -
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Considering how much I shoot Guristas in the face, I guess I'll have to treat this gift very carefully, huh.
I've run some simulations with my engineering crew and it looks like a Stratios-class cruiser can field two of those fighters and math looks pretty good.
Don't really know how they perform in practice, need to run a field test. |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6223
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:05:00 -
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If you'd told me this would be a day I'd agree with Ixiris, I would've laughed at you. But I agree with Ixiris, so I suppose I'm laughing at myself.
That said, testing has begun. I'm having a ground crew dismantle one of them, and then hopefully reassemble it. Another of my pilots has done some simulations on the damage potential when used with a Stratios, as Victorian had indicated, and the numbers were thoroughly impressive.
Hmm.
Time for an extensive physical and psychological battery for the Guristas ground crew and pilot, while we're at it. Scherezad-haani, if you're following this, you have mail. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
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Kithrus
Deus Fides Empire Curatores Veritatis Alliance
324
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:30:00 -
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Given their rate of fire power I'm saddened that most ships can't use more then 4 of them but all things considered they do make a nice addition to my drone flights. |
Esna Pitoojee
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
417
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:51:00 -
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I got a set handed to me from CONCORD. Make of that what you will; I'm presuming they're handing us off something they've recovered but don't know what to do with. Then they sit back and wait for one of us to put together a decent strategy for use of the things before they go ahead with mass deployment. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
599
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Posted - 2014.05.08 20:10:00 -
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I hear a carrier with 15 of them does over 4000 units of damage a second....
-Eran |
Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
3600
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Posted - 2014.05.08 20:20:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Pilots;
I recently discovered a team of Guristas personnel in one of my hangars, servicing a gift of Gecko-class superheavy drones, and then learned that these have been distributed widely among capsuleers. What in the maker's name is going on here? I know that gifts from institutions are often routed through hangar security without so much as a peep, but every time it makes me twitch and results in a good twenty or thirty personnel being removed from security duty.
Have any of you heard anything about this? Is it-- some sort of recruitment drive? A demonstration of wealth to impress us?
I'm-- just a bit confused, and a bit concerned.
Priano-haani, I suggest you check your privileges.
Just in case. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1179
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:03:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:I hear a carrier with 15 of them does over 4000 units of damage a second....
-Eran
Unless carriers have recently begun ignoring bandwidth limitations for the transmission of IFF and targeting telemetry, it is impossible for one to provide services to more than seven Geckos in active flight at any given moment, as each individual Gecko requires approximately 50 Megabits per second of bandwidth. Carriers have a hard limit of 375 Megabits per second. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar |
ValentinaDLM
Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
522
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Posted - 2014.05.09 00:10:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Evi Polevhia wrote:Trust it as much as you would a Gurista soldier on board your ship. So... significantly more than I'd trust anyone expressing sympathy for Sansha's Nation? If a Guristas soldier is on my ship, it's for one of two reasons - he's either there to do me and mine harm, or he's there because I trust him enough to invite him onboard. There's no middle ground and no deception in that.
My my, always trying to drag Nation into the conversation when it isn't even necessary. Long ago I realized that vehemence is usually a cloak for some deep seated insecurity, so what is it? Did you catch yourself enjoying the latest fanzine from the Unofficial Master Kuvakei Fan Club? I know I sure did, but I don't have to feel guilty about it and act like I don't. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1065
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Posted - 2014.05.09 01:46:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:It is a Gurista bribe. The tech looks good but I recommend examining the things end to end for malicious intent. Trust it as much as you would a Gurista soldier on board your ship. Good gurista is a dead gurista. Besides, TRUSTING a gurista is the most stupid mistake one could make, they will decieve, cheat, scam, betray, rob and maybe even kill you for your trust. Every single one of them.
But this... this is just a piece of equipment. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
599
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Posted - 2014.05.09 02:17:00 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Eran Mintor wrote:I hear a carrier with 15 of them does over 4000 units of damage a second....
-Eran Unless carriers have recently begun ignoring bandwidth limitations for the transmission of IFF and targeting telemetry, it is impossible for one to provide services to more than seven Geckos in active flight at any given moment, as each individual Gecko requires approximately 50 Megabits per second of bandwidth. Carriers have a hard limit of 375 Megabits per second.
Minor oversight....dammit....
-Eran |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4880
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Posted - 2014.05.09 07:20:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Pilots;
I recently discovered a team of Guristas personnel in one of my hangars, servicing a gift of Gecko-class superheavy drones, and then learned that these have been distributed widely among capsuleers. What in the maker's name is going on here? I know that gifts from institutions are often routed through hangar security without so much as a peep, but every time it makes me twitch and results in a good twenty or thirty personnel being removed from security duty.
Have any of you heard anything about this? Is it-- some sort of recruitment drive? A demonstration of wealth to impress us?
I'm-- just a bit confused, and a bit concerned.
The promotionals happen often, though more often around a time of the year that, according to bits and pieces of history I find in archeological digs, was some kind of "festive" period.
Anyway, since security around us is so tight to start with, they don't have problems letting in people who they know are vetted.
Heck they don't even let us wander the stations.
Now, if I can just get the pilot out of those drones and take them for a whirl myself. That would be great. Can't find the skillbook though. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
1514
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:09:00 -
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After a few hours of discussion over a tub of petroleum jelly and a few bottles of carbonated water with what I believe to be is one of the pilots of a Gecko I finally managed to extract the information that they came from the, "Highway to the Dangerzone."
I can only assume it's a code-phrase of some sort, but as to who, what, or where this Highway to the Dangerzone actually is, is probably anyone's guess at this point. |
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Ci'Fera
Worlds Without Boundaries
3
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Posted - 2014.05.09 08:22:00 -
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I do not normally venture into the realm of trusting pirates, But being a drone carrier, escort carrier pilot if you will. These gecko drones are outstanding. I have purchased twenty more units of them and have loved every moment. |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
4627
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Posted - 2014.05.09 10:27:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:After a few hours of discussion over a tub of petroleum jelly and a few bottles of carbonated water with what I believe to be is one of the pilots of a Gecko I finally managed to extract the information that they came from the, "Highway to the Dangerzone."
I can only assume it's a code-phrase of some sort, but as to who, what, or where this Highway to the Dangerzone actually is, is probably anyone's guess at this point. Petroleum jelly and carbonated water are ineffective interrogation tools for fighter pilots. What you need to employ in this circumstance is shirtless volleyball. Mane 614
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Wendrika
Almatter Foundation
19
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:59:00 -
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Well, those Guristas baddies won't buy me off so easily! Well... I hate to admit it, but it was genuinly a very nice gift. |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6229
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:32:00 -
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On further review of the technicals, this superheavy drone employs a number of drone control systems that have upgrades inbound. I think the play by the Guristas is demonstrating that they'd already secured access to classified technical schematics a month before they're due to be released to the public, and deployed novel technologies using those techniques before the empires.
That's-- well, that's actually rather impressive. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |
Jaret Victorian
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.05.09 18:32:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:On further review of the technicals, this superheavy drone employs a number of drone control systems that have upgrades inbound. I think the play by the Guristas is demonstrating that they'd already secured access to classified technical schematics a month before they're due to be released to the public, and deployed novel technologies using those techniques before the empires.
That's-- well, that's actually rather impressive.
Yeah. That or they developed this tech in the first place. They've got some nice brains in any case. |
Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
749
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:20:00 -
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Given the research sites operated by pirate factions that we have seen popping up recently (the so-called "ghost" sites), I wouldn't put it past them to be developing something new themselves. In fact some of you may or may not have heard the rumor that the Scorpion was based on the rattlesnake rather than the other way around. I don't know that I believe it, but it at least demonstrates a fair number of people believe the Guristas capable of such a thing.
On a side note, I don't think the Guristas are the only ones innovating. I have heard reports of Sansha ships going unusually fast yet lacking the telltale signature bloom of a microwarpdrive. I inquired if they may be using afterburners for larger classes, and the response I got was that the other equipment suggested that to be impossible due to the power requirements. I can only assume they have developed a new propulsion module or made a radical redesign to their engine design. |
Gosakumori Noh
Seraglio Hastatus Hagia Sophia
654
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:50:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:After a few hours of discussion over a tub of petroleum jelly and a few bottles of carbonated water with what I believe to be is one of the pilots of a Gecko I finally managed to extract the information that they came from the, "Highway to the Dangerzone."
I do love you, darling. I wish I wasn't such a dizzy blonde in a pod. What's that? Oh, yes, right. Other wig.
Jelly, anyone? Anyone? |
Jaret Victorian
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:06:00 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:I wouldn't put it past them to be developing something new themselves. Exactly that. They may be pirates, but they wouldn't get where they are now without being smart.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
3615
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:08:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I can only assume it's a code-phrase of some sort, but as to who, what, or where this Highway to the Dangerzone actually is, is probably anyone's guess at this point.
But I LIVE in the Dangerzone and I really don't remember them at any of the neighbourhood association parties... "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Xindi Kraid
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
749
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:48:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:After a few hours of discussion over a tub of petroleum jelly and a few bottles of carbonated water with what I believe to be is one of the pilots of a Gecko I finally managed to extract the information that they came from the, "Highway to the Dangerzone."
I can only assume it's a code-phrase of some sort, but as to who, what, or where this Highway to the Dangerzone actually is, is probably anyone's guess at this point. I had one of my tech crews do a full visual cataloge of one of these that I have and noticed on the wing it says ED-209. After a quick check, the other Geckos also sport that. Did the man you interrogated mention anything about the relevance of that?
Production number? model number? squadron number? (since all of them have the same marking it can't be craft ID) |
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