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Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:22:00 -
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Pure Caldari AWESOME. It's like an ugly old friend with a creepy cheek-tumor had some surgery to make his face and the tumor look badass:
Here's some shots of the new Golem (since the details show up better in hangar):
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8514/golem1.png
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4544/golem2.png
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1856/golem3.png
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/7828/golem4.png
Standard Raven is same but very dark metallic grey. Not sure about the Navy Raven's true colour because the ship viewer makes it look black as night in space. |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
85
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:42:00 -
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Quote:had some surgery to make his face and the tumor look badass This is rather confusing
and for the pictures, the golem looks cool enough to buy one just for the ship spinning, assuming I had the skills Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |
Naran Eto
Degenerate Corp Forsaken Knights
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:43:00 -
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So they didn't really do much to it at all then, just sharpened up the edges, and made it a little more pointy then changed the detailing on the skin.
I am dissapointed. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
184
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:52:00 -
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It looks cool |
mkint
335
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:56:00 -
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yeah... not gonna cross-train caldari for that. The ugliest part of it (the wingy bit that looks like a funky spider web) is still just as ugly. |
Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
41
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:59:00 -
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How can you be dissapointed at this! It is hard for me to like any non symmetrical ship... but this is sooo pretty! It has that classic look without all the blocky akwardness. The main problem I had with the old one was that massive cockpit at the front which now looks fine ;D Ferox #1 |
Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1091
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Posted - 2011.11.16 09:08:00 -
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Played around with it on sisi and I think I've found a new favourite ship. I was worried they'd ruin the Raven, I always thought it was a cool ship except for the engines and the small cockpit area... which are exactly the bits which have been completely redone for the better |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.11.16 09:10:00 -
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Now THAT is an EVE-online space ship! It looks cool in fact it looks awesome!
Nice going Raven modeller, you kept the essence of a raven and made it more awesome!
PS: (it being a golden hulled beauty did influence my opinion, slightly) - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Super Chair
Hell's Revenge Flatline.
28
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Posted - 2011.11.16 09:20:00 -
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This raven model just gave me a nerdrection |
dgastuffz
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Posted - 2011.11.16 09:42:00 -
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there is only one prob its still a raven |
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Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
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Posted - 2011.11.16 09:53:00 -
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Raven: Best battle ship in the game?
Yes. Yes it is. Ferox #1 |
DarkAegix
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
325
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:07:00 -
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Kietay Ayari wrote:Raven: Best battle ship in the game?
Yes. Yes it is. Your signature automatically invalidates everything you say! |
Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:13:00 -
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Looking at the old Raven model as it is now, I think the update is a million times better. The old model has some seriously aesthetically displeasing minor details that I don't think people notice. It has a lot of curves on it for a ship designed to have blocky utilitarian look. Some of the straight lines on the ship are also ever so slightly curved for no reason. Some of the edges look like they were molded out of plastic (just look at the rear cowling over the engine assembly). There are also those stupid metal pipes or exposed cables or whatever that serve no purpose but to make the ship look smaller than it is. I suppose the old Raven model is non-euclidean in a way, and that makes it kind of ugly. Now it has the sharp edges and angles that you'd expect from a stealth fighter, and it has more fine details to make it feel bigger. All of the pipes are gone too now. |
Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
41
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:19:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Kietay Ayari wrote:Raven: Best battle ship in the game?
Yes. Yes it is. Your signature automatically invalidates everything you say!
D: Ferox is not a battleship... it is just the most pretty, beautiful, spectacular looking piece of shaped pixel metal I have ever gazed upon! If you have to pick one reason to train one race, and one race only, devoting all your time to doublethink yourself into believing its the best race for every situation, that reason better be how pretty one ship in the entire lineup is ;D
Ferox #1 |
Generals4
Caldari State
330
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:34:00 -
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Kietay Ayari wrote:DarkAegix wrote:Kietay Ayari wrote:Raven: Best battle ship in the game?
Yes. Yes it is. Your signature automatically invalidates everything you say! D: Ferox is not a battleship... it is just the most pretty, beautiful, spectacular looking piece of shaped pixel metal I have ever gazed upon! If you have to pick one reason to train one race, and one race only, devoting all your time to doublethink yourself into believing its the best race for every situation, that reason better be how pretty one ship in the entire lineup is ;D
What about the merlin hull. It's my favorite. -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:35:00 -
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Disappointed again, boring change to be honest, wish they had used more imagination ...
Also as we don't have missile bays, I would love to know where on my Raven they launch from, really silly having a ship with no viewable launch bays (i.e. drake) that is a missile specialist yet nothing in the design reflects that role.
Tal |
Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
41
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:39:00 -
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Generals4 wrote:Kietay Ayari wrote:DarkAegix wrote:Kietay Ayari wrote:Raven: Best battle ship in the game?
Yes. Yes it is. Your signature automatically invalidates everything you say! D: Ferox is not a battleship... it is just the most pretty, beautiful, spectacular looking piece of shaped pixel metal I have ever gazed upon! If you have to pick one reason to train one race, and one race only, devoting all your time to doublethink yourself into believing its the best race for every situation, that reason better be how pretty one ship in the entire lineup is ;D What about the merlin hull. It's my favorite.
Its too small, size isn't everything but it does count for something! Only Ferox talk please and thank you!
Edit to the person above: There are plenty of holes on the raven that can launch missiles! Just look ;D Ferox #1 |
Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:49:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Disappointed again, boring change to be honest, wish they had used more imagination ...
When you think about it (obviously a new experience for you), the imagination went into the original look of the Raven in the first place. It's unlike any sci-fi ship I ever saw before playing Eve.
Missile bays really need to work like turrets. Missiles should fire from bays that occupy turret slots. |
Just Lilly
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2011.11.16 11:33:00 -
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Sharp, Decepticon ish looks
Still a clusterpuck in pvp though, which is all that matters to me |
Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 11:35:00 -
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Just Lilly wrote:Still a clusterpuck in pvp though, which is all that matters to me
Gatecamping torp+buffer is the only role it has. You're surprised that didn't change? |
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.11.16 11:41:00 -
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it doesnt look bad, but it also doesnt look too much dissimilar to the model that it replaces.
So i guess thats good. |
Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:03:00 -
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Please no negative comments about any Caldari State ships. Thank you in advance. Ferox #1 |
4IN1
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:06:00 -
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Why are they still calling it raven?
They should have change the name to Nemo!
CCP: Ambition but rubbish
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Kuzzka
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:20:00 -
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It looks nice on the screens. |
Tivookz
The Forgotten Navy Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:43:00 -
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I still think the Raven model should have gotten a complete remake.
Also, why is it acceptable in EVE to re-use stuff?
Just as an example the new game COD:MW3 had some buildings in it that existed in the predecessor MW: Black ops.
People raged about it etc.
However, everytime CCP decide to release a new "expansion" (yes, they refer to it as expansions) containing "new" ships it's not seldom an old ship with a new skin.
Black ops ships come to mind.
So does: Marauders, navy/tribal/fleet/etc editions, deep space transports, interceptors, exhumers and.. oh wait, almost every T2 ship out there.
It's bullshit. |
ViRUS Pottage
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:47:00 -
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The CNR looks hella sexy, though.
The sandy colour of the Golem just... sucks. |
Psychophantic
107
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Posted - 2011.11.16 13:00:00 -
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So it's not shiny anymore?
I kinda liked the shine on Caldaris pimp ships like the golem and hawk.
Like they thought they were worth giving a buff job to. |
4IN1
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.16 13:12:00 -
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Tivookz wrote:I still think the Raven model should have gotten a complete remake.
Also, why is it acceptable in EVE to re-use stuff?
Just as an example the new game COD:MW3 had some buildings in it that existed in the predecessor MW: Black ops.
People raged about it etc.
However, everytime CCP decide to release a new "expansion" (yes, they refer to it as expansions) containing "new" ships it's not seldom an old ship with a new skin.
Black ops ships come to mind.
So does: Marauders, navy/tribal/fleet/etc editions, deep space transports, interceptors, exhumers and.. oh wait, almost every T2 ship out there.
It's bullshit. Well, tbh, they can fix the problem raven have by mirror the right "wing" and the large right hand spike to the left while leaving the rest un touch (you know, the round-ish bit mounted under the right armpit), but for some reason that a neurotypical won't undersrand, they just pick up a hand files and sharpen the edges...
CCP: Ambition but rubbish
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN
455
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Posted - 2011.11.16 13:16:00 -
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Looking good to me. |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
87
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Posted - 2011.11.16 21:35:00 -
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Tivookz wrote:I still think the Raven model should have gotten a complete remake.
Also, why is it acceptable in EVE to re-use stuff?
Just as an example the new game COD:MW3 had some buildings in it that existed in the predecessor MW: Black ops.
People raged about it etc.
However, everytime CCP decide to release a new "expansion" (yes, they refer to it as expansions) containing "new" ships it's not seldom an old ship with a new skin.
Black ops ships come to mind.
So does: Marauders, navy/tribal/fleet/etc editions, deep space transports, interceptors, exhumers and.. oh wait, almost every T2 ship out there.
It's bullshit. Well for your Call of Duty analogy, people were raging because the same building or truck in Afganistan also ended up in Paris or London or where ever its set
For EVE, why would a manufacturer make a completely different ship when the t1 counterpart can be made to do the same thing? It would be cool if there were different ships but it wouldnt make as much sense Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.11.17 01:15:00 -
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Fleet hardware/software updates.
The old hull was so well worn out and used and with newer equipment arriving every cycle altering electronic warfare fronts that the old racks and mountings could no longer accomidate the newer equipment so to save time they just rebanged out the original hull frame made any improvements for furtureability and then released that as a major update just to keep up with current warfare tatics.
The above reason is the 'catch all' lore reason for ship balances and change.
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Tivookz
The Forgotten Navy Gentlemen's Agreement
15
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Posted - 2011.11.17 09:59:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Tivookz wrote:I still think the Raven model should have gotten a complete remake.
Also, why is it acceptable in EVE to re-use stuff?
Just as an example the new game COD:MW3 had some buildings in it that existed in the predecessor MW: Black ops.
People raged about it etc.
However, everytime CCP decide to release a new "expansion" (yes, they refer to it as expansions) containing "new" ships it's not seldom an old ship with a new skin.
Black ops ships come to mind.
So does: Marauders, navy/tribal/fleet/etc editions, deep space transports, interceptors, exhumers and.. oh wait, almost every T2 ship out there.
It's bullshit. Well for your Call of Duty analogy, people were raging because the same building or truck in Afganistan also ended up in Paris or London or where ever its set For EVE, why would a manufacturer make a completely different ship when the t1 counterpart can be made to do the same thing? It would be cool if there were different ships but it wouldnt make as much sense
Roleplay much eh?
Lets get real for just one second here. In EVE, just like in Call of Duty, there are no real ingame manufacturers. There are just real life companies being lazy.
There is no reason why they shouldn't make new ship models instead of re-using the old ones other than pure laziness and / or whatever economic agenda there might be. |
Judie Ramone
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.24 22:34:00 -
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So... does CCP plan on updating any models that don't happen to be Caldari battleships? Oh right, the Maller. |
Opertone
Signal 7
17
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Posted - 2011.11.24 22:41:00 -
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Here is new Raven that doesn't seem to be any different at all.
But I find it sexy, because I am butthurt caldari - Troll.
Raven didn't look bad in the first place. It doesn't look badass now.
Bumper sticker and golden nuts would save it. |
Opertone
Signal 7
17
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Posted - 2011.11.24 22:44:00 -
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Tivookz wrote:I still think the Raven model should have gotten a complete remake.
Quoted for complete Truth.
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Opertone
Signal 7
17
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Posted - 2011.11.24 22:59:00 -
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In fact I am so butthurt, that I could post again.
Does new Raven look to you like a Toad? Does it look like a squished toad, like the old Raven did?
This toad is a tad more proportional, maybe it didn't burst yet. But devs are pushing it.
Pls, plug my butt, or I continue sh**posting. |
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