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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:39:00 -
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Hey guys,
If you watched the third party developer tools update presentation at Fanfest (which you can find here if you missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twRDTraUvEU) or talked to some people that did you may have heard we are looking at starting a trial of the EVE SSO. As a summary though so that you do not have to watch a whole presentation to find out what is going on:
- We would like to get several web sites to integrate the EVE SSO into their site.
- We require web apps to ensure secret keys are not leaked.
- Chosen sites may have more than 1 developer, but not lots either.
- Chosen sites and developers must be willing to sign the new developerGÇÖs license agreement (after seeing it and agreeing its good, which it is).
- Chosen sites must be open and neutral.
- Chosen sites must be willing to put development time into this effort.
- Chosen sites must be willing to work with us to improve the SSO endpoints and documentation.
If you feel like your site would fit these requirements and you want to get involved respond to this thread with the following information:
- A link to your web site?
- What will SSO do for your sites users? For example beyond user management does your site have a commenting system?
- How many developers are working on your site
So, who is interested? CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // @regnerba
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1525
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:47:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:
Chosen sites must be open and neutral.
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4644
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:47:00 -
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I'm interested, but most of my uses would be private. How about if I work on a plugin for the eve-kb killboard to use SSO to authenticate comments? CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
1261
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:47:00 -
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Awesome idea! Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
3203
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:48:00 -
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https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Addition of users, for storage of assets such as blueprints with specific values. Also would tie into evebloggers.com (but still on fuzzwork, due to the cert) for developing custom rss feeds, (unauthenticated, but with hashes to make them less detectable) Just me.
(I'm also considering digging into wordpress, to see if I can put together a login system, to allow for commenting, using your eve account. That's still up in the air though) Woo! CSM 9! http://fuzzwork.enterprises/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
3209
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:49:00 -
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Two step wrote:I'm interested, but most of my uses would be private. How about if I work on a plugin for the eve-kb killboard to use SSO to authenticate comments?
I have heard word from a few others that are interested in that sort of thing and I believe we are totally up for that. The agreement would of course that the SSO only be used for that and the sites using the commenting system would also have to be under the limited trial. CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // @regnerba
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Skutter Midumulf
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:51:00 -
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Woohoo! Great news! The dear, departed CCP Zero Gravitas would be very happy |
Skutter Midumulf
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:52:00 -
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Also, I'd like to help |
This is alt
Pythons Anonymous
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:57:00 -
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I am very much interested!
http://eve.cognitive.io My site is basically a bunch of private financial tracking tools for me, which I plan/hope to make public at some point, as well as a few public tools like the margin calculator for finding trade items. link
I would like to be able to offer a few of the private tools that require login to more people, as they are very useful for me to keep track of financial stuff.
It's just me working on the site, but I am open for collaborating on stuff.
PS: The site looks like absolute crap at the moment. I 'accidentally' started playing with the CSS and then decided I better work on my bachelors project which is due in a few weeks instead. :-P
Also I promise to bug FoxFour more on IRC about everything related to this. :D |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:06:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Two step wrote:I'm interested, but most of my uses would be private. How about if I work on a plugin for the eve-kb killboard to use SSO to authenticate comments? I have heard word from a few others that are interested in that sort of thing and I believe we are totally up for that. The agreement would of course that the SSO only be used for that and the sites using the commenting system would also have to be under the limited trial.
OK, then sign me up. I will probably put up a duplicate AHARM KB for testing, but our current one is at http://dontshootx.com/killboard CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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scrambled
Blockstackers
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:22:00 -
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Might be interested for a new project I'm working on which isn't live yet, but... yeah. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11898
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:22:00 -
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eveboard I'm sure will be benefiting from this so I'd be interested for sure
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Squizz Caphinator
Woopatang
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:27:00 -
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Of course zKillboard.com is interested :) Various projects I enjoy putting my time into: http://zkillboard.com | http://evewho.com | http://eve-kill.net | http://evechatter.com | http://skillq.net |
Calista Pirkibo
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:28:00 -
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CCP FoxFour,
I think my project would stand to benefit greatly from this feature.
Quote:A link to your web site? http://www.eveping.com
This is a system for sending pings to registered EVE pilots based on their corporation and alliance. It's completely free, requires a zero bitmask API to register/confirm identity. Works for all EVE Pilots, iOS & Droid with WP8 hopefully coming soon.
Quote:What will SSO do for your sites users? For example beyond user management does your site have a commenting system? Currently EVEPing attempts to authenticate that the person registering has access to the EVE Online Account Username and Password. It does this by requiring a zero bitmask API. Based on a number of variables, EVEPing.com will give the user a new vCode. This vCode must replace the original vCode entered on the site. While this is a way to verify that the user registering for the account has access to the username and password, it can be a pain due to caching issues with the API.
Also, it's necesarily to confirm identity for this website, to prevent any Tom, Richard and Harry from throwing a random API for a target alliance and gleaming intel (like www.eveskunk.com for example).
Using a system like this would simplify the registration process for a site like eveping.com, completely eliminating the need for anything related to the API.
Quote:How many developers are working on your site? 1 - 2 (Depends on the day) |
Liu Ellens
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
115
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Posted - 2014.05.12 17:28:00 -
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Are there any requirements about the size of the site & it's userbase? I'm somewhat interested to integrate it into eve-upro (see sig), but that would be mainly an academic pursuit as I have pretty much zero users on it.
eve-kino - create machinimas with EVE assets in the browser eve-upro - an online browser application to support navigation in New Eden and beyond. |
Indalecia
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Posted - 2014.05.12 18:25:00 -
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I'd like to apply Osmium.
Osmium is a browser-based fitting tool (and yes, you can use it from the IGB too!). One of the cool features is that you can share a loadout only to your corpmates, alliances mates, or even people in your contact list with a certain standing threshold.
Right now, for it to work users have to authenticate their account with an API key just to make sure they actually belong in the corporation/alliance they pretend to be in. And it's really not making for great user-friendliness, considering the API creation UI isn't terribly intuitive. SSO-ágets rid of the problem in a neat way.
About 30% of all accounts are API-verified at the moment. SSO-ácould help increase that percentage a lot and thus convince more corporations or alliances to switch to it to manage their doctrines and loadouts in one easy and convenient place.
Depending on how much information the SSO sends you back (like something tied to the account, not the character), it would also make a decent anti-cheat system for votes (like people can't cheat and vote twice by using an alt, this kind of thing).
Osmium is a free and libre project, and I am its main developer. I've had two other people making the occasional commit here and there so far. http://o.smium.org/ GÇö v0.12.1 GÇö A browser-based fitting tool and loadout sharing platform |
Daimian Mercer
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:37:00 -
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I would like to signup!
https://tripwire.cloud-things.com/
Tripwire - A wormhole mapping tool.
Tripwire provides a way to share signature information quickly and efficiently. Sharing information is done via "groups" which can include a single character or an entire alliances and multiples of these including a group of 2 alliance and 5 corps not in either alliance but also 50 characters that are NPC corp.
During registering and log-in an API check is performed to verify an account and place the account in the available groups.
I am the sole developer., but frequently release patches to Tripwire weekly. Creator of Tripwire https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=320030&find=unread |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
552
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Posted - 2014.05.12 20:53:00 -
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Aw, dag, my laziness doesn't pay off, for once -- the project I'm working on would have been perfect for this. Oh well; good luck! This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Lucia Denniard
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.05.12 21:47:00 -
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I'd like to apply with one of my projects I'm reviving - http://timerboard.net/
Originally it was a central timer board for multiple people groups to collaborate on, and I'd like to expand it to allow users to sign in and enter timers for sharing with other corporations and alliances.
SSO would be a huge help in this because I wouldn't have to collect a ton of API keys and continually recheck them, or trust the ingame browser headers to not be faked. SSO would break down the barrier of entry and allow people to collaborate on organising fights and working together.
The project itself is already MIT licensed and released in a simple form, I'd be extending this into a larger site to help people share timers. I might even go as far as to include some kind of mercenary hiring option where you can offer short term contracts on offensive and defensive timers.
I'd be the main developer, but flexd has offered to help, and I may find someone else to lend a hand. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2014.05.12 22:07:00 -
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Application for SSO: Fleet-Up.com
I would like to apply for SSO for Fleet-Up.com. I am the founder of this website and service since it's conception nearly two years ago. Fleet-Up is a website designed to benefit the entire community. Group of all sizes use the service from small start-ups to major alliances.
Fleet-Up.com is an online tool designed to help corporations & alliances manage their fittings, doctrines, operations and fleets. I sat in on the developer tools session at FanFest this year and was excited to hear FoxFour outline the current strategy for SSO.
A link to your web site? http://fleet-up.com
What will SSO do for your sites users? SSO will allow users to seamlessly access Fleet-Up without needing to manage a secondary login. At present I strongly advise users to use different authentication details to their EVE Online account. The reason for this is to ensure that their EVE account details remain secure.
However, one of the side effects of users managing different logins for different websites and services is that some inevitably forget their login or don't provide sufficient information to be able to reset their account.
SSO will help remove the requirement for users to manage a seperate login for Fleet-Up without compromising the security of their EVE online account.
Fleet-Up has an entire organisational management system in the form of groups, under which can be stored fittings, doctrines, operations, timers, fleets, shopping lists, and assets. Much of the site is interactive for group users since they can post operations, comment on most entities, supply or edit content, etc.
How many developers are working on your site Currently, myself. You will see that Fleet-Up is actively developed and furthermore I have access to additional resource should this be a major requirement.
Fleet-Up is currently developed using an agile development strategy and therefore SSO can be accommodated quickly and iteratively if required. I can also provide a testing and development environment for CCP developers to test the end points in action before I roll out any updates live to the community. You can be satisfied in the Fleet-Up implementation before it is released.
We require web apps to ensure secret keys are not leaked. I completely understand this. Fleet-Up.com is a web application and so hopefully satisfies this point by default.
Chosen sites and developers must be willing to sign the new developerGÇÖs license agreement. Not a problem - happy to read it over. My email is [email protected].
Chosen sites must be open and neutral. Fleet-Up is 100% neutral and is open to the entire community. It was one of the initial design goals to create a service that anyone from the community can just pick up an use without having to install software, rent a server, or find someone with developer skills to implement.
Chosen sites must be willing to put development time into this effort. Absolutely, the SSO would take top development rank. As you can see from recent updates to the side, Fleet-Up is being actively developed. In fact Fleet-Up development tends to take priority over game-time at present for me.
Chosen sites must be willing to work with us to improve the SSO endpoints and documentation. Certainly. Happy to get involved where I can to improve and polish the SSO offering. Forums are playing EVE too. Fact. |
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Vadrin Hegirin
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
2
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Posted - 2014.05.12 22:11:00 -
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Hi, I am the IT guy for the J4LP alliance (http://j4lp.com)
We are currently using a version of pizza-auth made by Lucia Denniard (<3) but I am currently working on a new version using LDAP for services authentication and MongoDB for data storage.
NewAuth is already pretty advanced and provides the basic features for an alliance to run and manage its members.
Having SSO would be a wonderful help:
- Easier barrier of entry for new members. No need to go generate an API Key.
- Easier for allies to join.
- Easier to allow temporary access to our comms.
- Alt characters management.
- Better API usage.
This will remove a lot of complexity on the User management part for sure, which is one of the goals of OAuth I think.
You can find the source of NewAuth on Github (https://github.com/J4LP/newauth) and its docs on (http://newauth.readthedocs.org/en/latest/).
It is in active development and tested by the members of my alliance, though I'm the only developer at the moment, I receive a lot of feedback from our IT group. |
Myopic Thyne
shattered paradigm Eon.Apocalypse
13
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Posted - 2014.05.12 23:34:00 -
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Indalecia wrote:I'd like to apply Osmium. Osmium is a browser-based fitting tool (and yes, you can use it from the IGB too!). One of the cool features is that you can share a loadout only to your corpmates, alliances mates, or even people in your contact list with a certain standing threshold. Right now, for it to work users have to authenticate their account with an API key just to make sure they actually belong in the corporation/alliance they pretend to be in. And it's really not making for great user-friendliness, considering the API creation UI isn't terribly intuitive. SSO-ágets rid of the problem in a neat way. About 30% of all accounts are API-verified at the moment. SSO-ácould help increase that percentage a lot and thus convince more corporations or alliances to switch to it to manage their doctrines and loadouts in one easy and convenient place. Depending on how much information the SSO sends you back (like something tied to the account, not the character), it would also make a decent anti-cheat system for votes (like people can't cheat and vote twice by using an alt, this kind of thing). Osmium is a free and libre project, and I am its main developer. I've had two other people making the occasional commit here and there so far.
I'd just like to voice my support for Osmium getting access to the SSO, I've been watching the project carefully and really feel like it's something special that would benefit massively from an intelligent, active developer implementing an amazing feature like SSO. |
Wollari
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.12 23:36:00 -
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DOTLAN EveMaps (http://evemaps.dotlan.net)
Logged in users have the ability to additional features like * save notes on systems (and share them) * bookmark routes, systems, etc * with the use of api keys users can access the asset manager or overlay their alliance/corp/personal standings on the map * subscribe to jump bridge networks and use them for route planning
I already support 3rd party auth/identities (like google, facebook, twitter, based on openid/oauth) to log into your account. DOTLAN EveMaps-á| Your out-of-game map, navigation toolset, sov database, etc. since 2008 |
Marbin Drakon
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2014.05.13 00:16:00 -
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- A link to your web site?
https://alpha.evewspace.com/ (This application is for the public alpha instance only)
- What will SSO do for your sites users? For example beyond user management does your site have a commenting system?
SSO would eliminate the need for API keys for access control and allow for more fluid control of information between components of conglomerated WH entities. Once released fully, it would make securing Eve W-Space instances much easier for less experienced administrators as it would remove the need to store user credentials.
- How many developers are working on your site
Eve W-Space is open source and has had 12 contributors although I am the only "full-time" developer.
Eve W-Space: Open source wormhole mapping and corporation management: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=210073 |
Zlorthishen
Blue-Fire Pasta Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.05.13 02:57:00 -
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I am interested in this. Blue-Fire : Best Fire |
Arnath Othorem
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
0
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Posted - 2014.05.13 04:51:00 -
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Indalecia wrote:I'd like to apply Osmium. [...] Osmium is a free and libre project, and I am its main developer. I've had two other people making the occasional commit here and there so far.
I'd like to chime in with my support as one of the "occasional commit here and there" people. I would be thrilled to see SSO come to Osmium, and I'm happy to throw some additional effort behind this. By day, I work on APIs to support third-party developers at a software company (not gaming), so I'm familiar with how valuable beta developers are for getting feedback on APIs and docs... I'd love to be part of this process for EVE :) |
Peter Powers
Terrorists of Dimensions Free 2 Play
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Posted - 2014.05.13 07:45:00 -
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A link to your web site? a) http://3rdpartyeve.net (sso will be used through https://secure.3rdpartyeve.net, which still has to be setup) b) https://comments.3rdpartyeve.net (still in the works)
What will SSO do for your sites users? For example beyond user management does your site have a commenting system? a) it will finally allow 3rd party devs to login and manage their 3rd party apps, so they can edit it - a feature that i'm waiting for quite a while to release. b) basically https://comments.3rdpartyeve.net is supposed to be a commenting system that can be used by 3rd party eve websites to allow for users to comment with their eve characters - very much like disqus and a few others, just with verified eve characters instead.
How many developers are working on your site a & b) me myself and i 3rdPartyEve.net - your catalogue for 3rd party applications |
Peter Powers
Terrorists of Dimensions Free 2 Play
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Posted - 2014.05.13 07:51:00 -
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Two step wrote:I'm interested, but most of my uses would be private. How about if I work on a plugin for the eve-kb killboard to use SSO to authenticate comments? i'm already working on a commenting system that will be as easy to integrate as simply putting in some javascript tag - very much like disqus and others. The advantage is that theres only one application that needs to integrate the SSO, over a plugin approach where each running site would have to register with the SSO program. 3rdPartyEve.net - your catalogue for 3rd party applications |
Skutter Midumulf
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.13 08:48:00 -
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I'd like to get the CREST Explorer (https://github.com/jimpurbrick/crestexplorerjs) and Contact JS (https://github.com/jimpurbrick/contactjs) wired up to the externally accessible SSO.
CREST explorer is a useful app for exploring the API (and discovering where it's not RESTful and connected) and Contact JS is a useful read/write app. Both are useful as examples for other developers. |
Evanova Android
Traquenard Labs
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Posted - 2014.05.13 22:12:00 -
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While I am not a web site, I am willing and able to tackle this from a mobile point of view and contribute in integration with at least Android and add SSO to my public Java Eve API.
Count me in! |
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