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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.09.27 18:56:00 -
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Pointing and laughing at us poor pathetic Amarr pilots saying to himself "omg what total suckers!"
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DeadDuck
Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.27 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: DeadDuck on 27/09/2006 19:05:09
Originally by: Godar Marak
Originally by: The ArchWarder
Now with the Nos nerf on the horizion,the pilgrim / curse, the only class of ship that amarr are the best at is now also at risk of becoming obsolete.
Why havent anyone questioned Tuxford competance? I mean, what the HELL is he doing?
Just a question ... with the nerf on NOS I can assume that ALL the Amarr ships except the Pilgrim and the Curse will benefict from that ... arent this good news ?
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.27 19:10:00 -
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And it also depends what kind of nerf it will be. If it makes nosses effected by sig radius it will actually *benefit* the amarr recons.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.27 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck Edited by: DeadDuck on 27/09/2006 19:05:09
Originally by: Godar Marak
Originally by: The ArchWarder
Now with the Nos nerf on the horizion,the pilgrim / curse, the only class of ship that amarr are the best at is now also at risk of becoming obsolete.
Why havent anyone questioned Tuxford competance? I mean, what the HELL is he doing?
Just a question ... with the nerf on NOS I can assume that ALL the Amarr ships except the Pilgrim and the Curse will benefict from that ... arent this good news ?
you are propably assuming to much. the pilgrim/curse/arbitrator is the best line of amarr ships and the only ships that tuxford havent broken yet. if it is even remotely possible to break those ships he most certainly will manage to do it because it is the tuxford way to break amarr ships.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Nir
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Posted - 2006.09.27 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel And it also depends what kind of nerf it will be.
I doubt it will ever be signature radius based because a lot of people in EVE fly Battleships and they are all of the school of thought that Battleships should remain "solo pwn mobiles" like they've always been.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nir
Originally by: Aramendel And it also depends what kind of nerf it will be.
I doubt it will ever be signature radius based because a lot of people in EVE fly Battleships and they are all of the school of thought that Battleships should remain "solo pwn mobiles" like they've always been.
Same could be said about people that fly frigs/inties and dont wanna get hurt by nos, because 3 of those little ships should solo pwn bs easily.
In the middle there is balance and thats what most people strife for: good balanced pvp, thats why (i hope) this thread exists. Not to be a rant about making a race, weapontype or shipclass teh uber.
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Byzan Zwyth
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:36:00 -
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I Guess I should consider myself lucky I've not invested too far into amarr ship training. Frigate 4, cruiser 4, battleship 3
I've given up, in 2 months time I'll be flying a temp ---------------------- I fly Amarr and Gallente ships Amarr because they peow peow and look cool... Gallente because they are effective |
madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 27/09/2006 21:41:41
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth I Guess I should consider myself lucky I've not invested too far into amarr ship training. Frigate 4, cruiser 4, battleship 3
I've given up, in 2 months time I'll be flying a temp
LOL
Have fun with that LOL, once you get into npcing you will fall FLAT on your face..only thing that can do npcing for a bit typhoon and needs ****loads of skills
Insane ammo usage or very low damageoutput (dps) and bad tracking, also a not so great tank. Not enough PG on typhoon and tempest cant really tank that well...(not like domi or offcourse #1 raven)
If your going to pvp...Well very good job, people training into mini earns respect, stabber f t w _________________________________________________
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Cloue
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.09.27 21:45:00 -
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hmm can we make 100pages
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Dupac
Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.09.27 22:17:00 -
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I think it's safe to say that if we reach 80 pages with no repsonse, getting to 100 won't make much difference :(
My advice is to bite the bullet - stick all your amarr training in the cupboard until we get a new "balance" dev and go train for another race........
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Wodin Drukvik
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.09.27 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: ****c I think it's safe to say that if we reach 80 pages with no repsonse, getting to 100 won't make much difference :(
My advice is to bite the bullet - stick all your amarr training in the cupboard until we get a new "balance" dev and go train for another race........
For what it's worth, you can do a lot to improve your character without training racial skills. If you're younger character like myself there are literally months of support skills that will be valuable training time spent regardless of which race you finally choose. So many skills that need to be V'd, so little time to V them.
If you're really frustrated, like I was, training up another race's t1 stuff is a significant but worthwhile SP investment. You get a breath of fresh air, you get to learn to fly new ships, and it's a reasonable way to breathe life into the game. There's a decent amount of cross-pollination in useful skills between Gallente and some of the better Minmatar ships, so there are a fair number of options if you choose to take this route. Obviously if you're serious about things you'll need T2 weaponry and ship skills, but those are further down the road.
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Dupac
Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.09.27 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Wodin Drukvik
Originally by: ****c I think it's safe to say that if we reach 80 pages with no repsonse, getting to 100 won't make much difference :(
My advice is to bite the bullet - stick all your amarr training in the cupboard until we get a new "balance" dev and go train for another race........
For what it's worth, you can do a lot to improve your character without training racial skills. If you're younger character like myself there are literally months of support skills that will be valuable training time spent regardless of which race you finally choose. So many skills that need to be V'd, so little time to V them.
If you're really frustrated, like I was, training up another race's t1 stuff is a significant but worthwhile SP investment. You get a breath of fresh air, you get to learn to fly new ships, and it's a reasonable way to breathe life into the game. There's a decent amount of cross-pollination in useful skills between Gallente and some of the better Minmatar ships, so there are a fair number of options if you choose to take this route. Obviously if you're serious about things you'll need T2 weaponry and ship skills, but those are further down the road.
I agree with what you are saying - but I think you misunderstood my post a little - or, more likely, I wasn't very clear
I'm not suggesting getting rid of your character - as you say the support skills are always useful, I am saying that training specific amarr skills doesn't bring the same rewards in terms of what you can do with your ships. I am amarr specialised but spend most of my time flying something else - usually with half the skills and twice the results
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Brandy Wong
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Posted - 2006.09.28 04:18:00 -
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Bleh. I bet my bottom dollar Tux reads this but just choosed to ignore it. Now there's a thread saying Amarr is overpowered just because there's rumours that Amarr got the first Titan out.
Getting a little agitated with my money as there's lots of stability and downtime issues as well as unbalanced race. Maybe Tux plays Caldari too, who knows.
I say give the shine back to Amarr!!
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General Tso's
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.28 06:34:00 -
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We are a dying race my brothers, and sisters. We were the first to emerge in this universe, and we will be the first to leave it. When factional warfare comes in, the Amarr will not stand a chance. We will die with our lasers tickling our enemies. It will be an honorable death. !
-------- They say the universe is perfect If you try to change it, you'll only ruin it If you try to hold onto it, it will only slip away |
Aurora Tagan
Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.28 08:03:00 -
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It will be a good death
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Raven LeSage
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.28 10:54:00 -
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Die if you want but I will adapt. Ohhhh - I have a pretty ship now. |
Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aurora Tagan Edited by: Aurora Tagan on 28/09/2006 12:03:22 It will be a good death
For whom exactly?
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.28 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Same could be said about people that fly frigs/inties and dont wanna get hurt by nos, because 3 of those little ships should solo pwn bs easily.
Eh what? Please elaborate.
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Aurora Tagan
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.28 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak
Originally by: Aurora Tagan Edited by: Aurora Tagan on 28/09/2006 12:03:22 It will be a good death
For whom exactly?
I have absolutly no ideas tbh, i was watching 'The last samurai' whilst borwsing this thread and figured it would fit in at the time
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Amanda Zeherah
Amarr Gun Metal Priests
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:55:00 -
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Personally, I believe that the devs have already taken a look at the current Amarr situation and the upcoming Kali1 patch will try to 'fix' it.
Ok Im an optimist and I foresee:
- Rigs... we were told from the blogs it will be primarily DEFENSIVE... so I suppose Amarr ships being the 'King' of tank will be favoured...
- ECM nerf... will hopefully make Amarr ship less crappy at PvP and shield tanker will find it more favourable to actually shield tank... since permajam suxz...
- NOS nerf... hopefully will force people to use a mid-slot to fit a capacitor battery... but I am worried.. wont this worsen Amarr ships due to limited Mid slots??? And inevitably nerf the few Amarr PvP ships left out there (Curse/Pilgrim)???
Well there are other issues affecting Amarr like:
- Huge PG requirement for Beam weapons - 3 x EANM2 (PASSIVE) being as good/better as 3 racial hardners (ACTIVE) - Ship 'bonuses' being out-dated/uncompetitive - etc
To those Amarr specialist out there... HOLD ON!!!
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Soren Eisarson
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:02:00 -
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<begin moral boost> C'mon Amarrian people, I know that you can make 100 pages!! Keep those whines coming, if we get the same people to post over and over again about the same old stuff, we won't have to think of anything new to say, so getting to page 100 won't be any problem at all!!!
Remember, speculation rants are easily made to run for paragraphs, and the more baseless facts used the better. I know you people have it it in you to make 100 pages, no sweat <end moral boost>
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.29 14:56:00 -
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The most dangerous NPC in this game are not Angels, but in fact are EoM's. If you have ever fought them - then you know exactly what I mean!
Why are they Dangerous? Simple Other than the smart Apoc/Geddon Skin that the EoM's have, they
1. They Shield tank 2. They use rails and torps.
I mean - If a pirate faction such as EoM can bring in a ship that outclasses Amarr's current offering, then something is seriously wrong --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:38:00 -
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I really wish idiots would stop trolling this thread.
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DanMck
Amarr Rionnag Alba Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.29 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak I really wish idiots would stop trolling this thread.
agreed and they probably are typing it while they have eve minimzed with the EMP ammo in the cargo hold
gives us more damage type options and please make our set up less predictable
cheers
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Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.29 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak I really wish idiots would stop trolling this thread.
IRONY! __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now Stealth Bomber Tweaks |
Vexoth
Two Guys Mining
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Posted - 2006.09.29 18:13:00 -
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All it would take would be a few minutes from a developer to post here saying: "Ok we heard you, and so we are going to make a few changes that will improve amarr where/if needed, now stfu with your crying." And then this thread could die.
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Raven LeSage
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vexoth All it would take would be a few minutes from a developer to post here saying: "Ok we heard you, and so we are going to make a few changes that will improve amarr where/if needed, now stfu with your crying." And then this thread could die.
But dont you know? In space no one can hear dev scream at us that they heard us. Ohhhh - I have a pretty ship now. |
Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Vexoth All it would take would be a few minutes from a developer to post here saying: "Ok we heard you, and so we are going to make a few changes that will improve amarr where/if needed, now stfu with your crying." And then this thread could die.
What would they have to laugh at on their lunch breaks then?
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Vexoth All it would take would be a few minutes from a developer to post here saying: "Ok we heard you, and so we are going to make a few changes that will improve amarr where/if needed, now stfu with your crying." And then this thread could die.
What would they have to laugh at on their lunch breaks then?
You try flying Amarr ships in PvP, Minmatar scum.
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Basically we've established, EVE physics > Amarr
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Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Angus McLean
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Vexoth All it would take would be a few minutes from a developer to post here saying: "Ok we heard you, and so we are going to make a few changes that will improve amarr where/if needed, now stfu with your crying." And then this thread could die.
What would they have to laugh at on their lunch breaks then?
You try flying Amarr ships in PvP, Minmatar scum.
well - know what kay will say, so will skip it. Weirda been specialized in amarr and minmatar since beginning... and you know what... when had much less skillpoints they were so far superior to the minmatar that it was funny.
still fly them lots - but don't tell anyone __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now Stealth Bomber Tweaks |
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