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Ulysses Avellone
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:09:00 -
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I just don't understand this game.
I got angry and gave all my loot (liquid and asset) to a new recruit, again.
Here's what made angry,
1)
I was just running around null sec looking for wrecks/cargo, got killed, and clone-spawned back at base. Asked the tons of ppl in local to come back with me and kill the squad. Told them I'd pay 1mil SRP no matter what (expecting noob atrons to sign up en mass)...
Nothing.
Said I'd give 35 mil to one person to come get killed with me (thinking it would be enough for someone with some SP to afford a clone). Two ppl said yes - one was joking & the other backed out.
2)
The people that killed me earlier came by and camped the dock and the response was underwhelming. Of the tons blues in local maybe 12 undocked. I can't understand why didn't they make of show of it? Clone costs? AFK? Trader alts?
3)
Later the corps' main enemy camped with a small tactical force - I can't help but wonder why they, our actual enemy, would bring such small force. Did they know the response would underwhelming no matter what?
Finally, Around this time I saw in new recruit chat a new guy who had nothing except tutorial money/ships but seemed to have "let's undock and do something" attitude so I gave him everything and rage uninstalled.
tl;dr - nothing really happens except battles between hardcore vets? I don't seem to have a place in the game world... |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
136
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:15:00 -
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Ulysses Avellone wrote:I just don't understand this game.
I got angry and gave all my loot (liquid and asset) to a new recruit, again.
Here's what made angry,
1)
I was just running around null sec looking for wrecks/cargo, got killed, and clone-spawned back at base. Asked the tons of ppl in local to come back with me and kill the squad. Told them I'd pay 1mil SRP no matter what (expecting noob atrons to sign up en mass)...
Nothing.
Said I'd give 35 mil to one person to come get killed with me (thinking it would be enough for someone with some SP to afford a clone). Two ppl said yes - one was joking & the other backed out.
2)
The people that killed me earlier came by and camped the dock and the response was underwhelming. Of the tons blues in local maybe 12 undocked. I can't understand why didn't they make of show of it? Clone costs? AFK? Trader alts?
3)
Later the corps' main enemy camped with a small tactical force - I can't help but wonder why they, our actual enemy, would bring such small force. Did they know the response would underwhelming no matter what?
Finally, Around this time I saw in new recruit chat a new guy who had nothing except tutorial money/ships but seemed to have "let's undock and do something" attitude so I gave him everything and rage uninstalled.
tl;dr - nothing really happens except battles between hardcore vets? I don't seem to have a place in the game world... Were you in highsec? Also people don't tend to trust random people asking around in local. I still can't understand your story though.
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Jur Tissant
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:16:00 -
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You got angry because a bunch of people in local didn't want to hop onboard a pirate hunt?
If you want group PVP, corp up and I'm sure you'll find some like-minded friends. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3614
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:16:00 -
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Want action? Join Brave Newbies Inc., or Red Federation / Blue Republic. |
Ulysses Avellone
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:17:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:You got angry because a bunch of people in local didn't want to hop onboard a pirate hunt?
If you want group PVP, corp up and I'm sure you'll find some like-minded friends.
Local was all corp & alliance members |
Ulysses Avellone
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:22:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:You got angry because a bunch of people in local didn't want to hop onboard a pirate hunt?
If you want group PVP, corp up and I'm sure you'll find some like-minded friends.
everyone in local were blue/corp/alliance mates. Someone high ranking said I need to learn to accept ship losses - heck they paid for the ship, I got no problem with the loss. I just thought internet ship revenge would be what is called "content" |
Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
7294
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:31:00 -
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Ulysses Avellone wrote:Jur Tissant wrote:You got angry because a bunch of people in local didn't want to hop onboard a pirate hunt?
If you want group PVP, corp up and I'm sure you'll find some like-minded friends. Local was all corp & alliance members Then you're in the wrong kind of corp - or there's more to the story than evident.
Do you mean the newbie starter corporation? As that's not really a "corporation" at all in the real sense. It's just where all new players get thrown when they start their time.
I don't think your situation is all that big to have had a rage-quit over. You got ganked, nobody wanted to come help you, and so you said **** it. If you respawn in a newbie system and ask all the other newbies to come to null (woah) to drop what they're doing, come help fight a faceless enemy for a stranger, for pocket-change, then I'm not surprised you got no takers. Most of the smarter pilots would have figured you're a trap of some kind and declined or just ignored you.
Take Tau Cabalander's advice - join a 'real' corp that's dedicated to helping new folk learn, fight and work together.
Major (Ret.) Caldari Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model Gÿá Wormhole Diary | GÖí #420roloswag
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Ulysses Avellone
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:34:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Ulysses Avellone wrote:Jur Tissant wrote:You got angry because a bunch of people in local didn't want to hop onboard a pirate hunt?
If you want group PVP, corp up and I'm sure you'll find some like-minded friends. Local was all corp & alliance members Then you're in the wrong kind of corp - or there's more to the story than evident. Do you mean the newbie starter corporation? As that's not really a "corporation" at all in the real sense. It's just where all new players get thrown when they start their time. I don't think your situation is all that big to have had a rage-quit over. You got ganked, nobody wanted to come help you, and so you said **** it. If you respawn in a newbie system and ask all the other newbies to come to null (woah) to drop what they're doing, come help fight a faceless enemy for a stranger, for pocket-change, then I'm not surprised you got no takers. Most of the smarter pilots would have figured you're a trap of some kind and declined or just ignored you. Take Tau Cabalander's advice - join a 'real' corp that's dedicated to helping new folk learn, fight and work together.
I don't want to out my corp because they're good people as far Q&A, ISK, free ships, and skill books go... but it really hasn't turned out quite as advertised... |
Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
7294
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:39:00 -
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Ulysses Avellone wrote:I don't want to out my corp because they're good people as far Q&A, ISK, free ships, and skill books go... but it really hasn't turned out quite as advertised... You don't have to out them.
But I think you maybe need to keep your loss in perspective, that's all. One pilot loses a single ship of small value deep in nullsec after deciding to fly off and do some stuff on his own, then expects the entire alliance to drop everything and form up a fleet to go and revenge this frigate/cruiser loss or something then yeah ... not many corps are going to do much more than shrug.
Major (Ret.) Caldari Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model Gÿá Wormhole Diary | GÖí #420roloswag
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
387
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:39:00 -
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You're story sounded a bit disjointed, but I see three problems.
1. Don't do corp chat in local. Do corp chat in corp channel. 2. If the corp does not share your goals and motivations go find a different corp. 3. You are in an NPC corp, which is not a real corp. The people in the corp with you are not people that share your goals and interests, they are simply people that made the same race and bloodline as you. An NPC corp is more like staying in the same hotel as a bunch of random people, with guards at the front doors to keep the bad people away. I just want to get a plex as fast as i can so i dont have to worry about resubbing, 15 dollars is Cat litter and Food for my cat, or 2 Grams of Weed, i'd rather spend it on that then on this game--Rogue Mime |
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1890
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:40:00 -
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So you rage quit instead of dropping corp and looking for better one? Aren't we a little drama queen... I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Ulysses Avellone
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:50:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Ulysses Avellone wrote:I don't want to out my corp because they're good people as far Q&A, ISK, free ships, and skill books go... but it really hasn't turned out quite as advertised... You don't have to out them. But I think you maybe need to keep your loss in perspective, that's all. One pilot loses a single ship of small value deep in nullsec after deciding to fly off and do some stuff on his own, then expects the entire alliance to drop everything and form up a fleet to go and revenge this frigate/cruiser loss or something then yeah ... not many corps are going to do much more than shrug.
Thanks for taking time to talk with a noob,
idk, maybe I just a drama queen like the other poster suggested, but It's just disappointing. The amount of local blues were in the low triple digits, surely 5% could have afforded to come with and we would have collected tears and had "content" or whatev. |
Candi LeMew
Rolled Out
1039
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:55:00 -
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Ulysses Avellone wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Ulysses Avellone wrote:I don't want to out my corp because they're good people as far Q&A, ISK, free ships, and skill books go... but it really hasn't turned out quite as advertised... You don't have to out them. But I think you maybe need to keep your loss in perspective, that's all. One pilot loses a single ship of small value deep in nullsec after deciding to fly off and do some stuff on his own, then expects the entire alliance to drop everything and form up a fleet to go and revenge this frigate/cruiser loss or something then yeah ... not many corps are going to do much more than shrug. Thanks for taking time to talk with a noob, idk, maybe I just a drama queen like the other poster suggested, but It's just disappointing. The amount of blues were in the low triple digits, surely 5% could have afforded to come with and we would have have collected tears or whatev. You're welcome!
Reinstall sometime, then maybe try a different corp if some decent PVP action (and backup) is what you're looking for. The corps Tau suggested are excellent suggestions, among many others. Alternatively just stick with the corp you're in and just modify your expecations a little perhaps. "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty. |
Nova Serine
Republic University Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:58:00 -
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There's always the tried and true method of quietly accepting the kill, then watching and waiting patiently, biding your time, finally serving up solo revenge when the perpetrator least expects it. Over and over and over again.
Two rolls of duct tape; one for my ship, and the other for unruly ride-alongs. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries Order of the Exalted
562
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Posted - 2014.05.16 00:11:00 -
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Sounds to me like someone needs to watch the Causality trailer. It explains the appropriate manner in which to get revenge for the loss of a Merlin. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
255
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Posted - 2014.05.16 01:44:00 -
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Sounds like a brief episode of nerd rage. It shall pass.
The game sounds like it's EXACTLY your type of game. Murderous rampages and revenge killings are indeed the cream of the content crop for Eve. You are probably just hanging out with the wrong people.
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Ulysses Avellone
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.05.16 01:52:00 -
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Alaric Faelen wrote:Sounds like a brief episode of nerd rage. It shall pass.
The game sounds like it's EXACTLY your type of game. Murderous rampages and revenge killings are indeed the cream of the content crop for Eve. You are probably just hanging out with the wrong people.
LOL, well I need to figure out the cliques and sub-groups within the corp I guess |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
388
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Posted - 2014.05.16 02:12:00 -
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Cliques in the npc corp are irrelevant. All NPC corps are are holding areas. Don't waste time trying to make the NPC corp work. I just want to get a plex as fast as i can so i dont have to worry about resubbing, 15 dollars is Cat litter and Food for my cat, or 2 Grams of Weed, i'd rather spend it on that then on this game--Rogue Mime |
Samuel Triptee
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
16
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:15:00 -
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Those are not losses in your combat log. They are a list of pilots that will provide extra fun when you see them explode.
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
137
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:26:00 -
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Ok assuming OP is not a troll, join a REAL player corporation that is hopefully not living in highsec. You claim you go to null so you have more balls than the average carebear. PVP corps are a good start or you can go to more established ones like eve uni or BNI. |
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Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
257
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:29:00 -
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The game is not for you if you don't have fun while losing, often horribly.
I genuinely enjoy Eve Online and have fun whether I'm racking up killmails or taking the pod express home. Winning is great, but if losing isn't still fun, then you're taking internet spaceships too seriously.
A thought-- why not just take your aggression out on some random, hapless soul? You aren't using all that sec status anyway. The great thing about New Eden is...if you can't find the guy you want to kill, you can always just murder the first person to cross your path and blow off some steam that way. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2891
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:57:00 -
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Alaric Faelen wrote:The game is not for you if you don't have fun while losing, often horribly. I genuinely enjoy Eve Online and have fun whether I'm racking up killmails or taking the pod express home. Winning is great, but if losing isn't still fun, then you're taking internet spaceships too seriously. A thought-- why not just take your aggression out on some random, hapless soul? You aren't using all that sec status anyway. The great thing about New Eden is...if you can't find the guy you want to kill, you can always just murder the first person to cross your path and blow off some steam that way.
This is so true.
Best EVE moment of the last couple months for me was losing a ship to an excellently laid trap. I then went and killed three other people to let off steam. Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Ulysses Avellone
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.05.16 04:28:00 -
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Samuel Triptee wrote:Those are not losses in your combat log. They are a list of pilots that will provide extra fun when you see them explode.
Awesome way to look at it.
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1968
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:41:00 -
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it appears that the members of your corp lack certain parts of male anatomy while being parts of female anatomy themselves.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
440
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Posted - 2014.05.16 11:01:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:it appears that the members of your corp lack certain parts of male anatomy while being parts of female anatomy themselves.
Perhaps - or it could be E-Uni. "hundreds of blues in local" -- not many groups have that many friendlies in highsec. Also the "book program" and such... It sounds a lot like E-Uni.
Aldrat being home base - the jump distance to nullsec is pretty far (wildlands being closest to Aldrat) to round trip it - hours out and back.
If someone wanders off and gets popped floating around null... No you won't find a lot of those at our HQ area willing to go run off to some odd system in nullsec like that and we run highsec wars all the time so plenty of "hostiles" come around the HQ system with different quantities of ships - small gangs through fleets.
People lose ships all the time in the Uni, across every conceivable space in the game. With lowsec, nullsec and wormhole campuses, those interested in living in those areas JOIN the appropriate campus to live there and learn how to operate in that type of space.
Seriously - what other group would have hundreds in local when you pop at a home station, with newbies around like the OP , with skillbook programs and such? Only a few groups could fit that kind of description. |
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
185
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Posted - 2014.05.17 23:57:00 -
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You miss the point of things often? Seems more an RL problem to me. Might be youth related. Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first. |
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