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Jack McTroll
TOYS R US. The Harlequin's
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Posted - 2014.05.18 12:36:00 -
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In theory no race should be better than other but more suitable for each different situation.
I have 25 m sp in gallente skills and i was kinda happy about it. I even have logistics to L5. BUT !
recently ive been looking for a new corp or aliance and when i say i have Oneiros L5 everyone replies "- Oh sorry we use guardian." Then i say i have gallente battleships 5 and the recruiters say "- Oh we only fly BS in very rare occasions and even then we prefer HACS or T3 crusers more and more." At this point i say - Fine. im planning to skill for Deimos. and i get " - Sorry we now have Sacrilege as doctrine. " Then i give them my eveboard sheet http://eveboard.com/pilot/Jack_McTroll. and i generaly get "- your skills look fine and we like how you skill focused. But can you shield tank your Talos, train caldari cruisers and also fly scimitar ?
So i log off and cry. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4299
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Posted - 2014.05.18 12:40:00 -
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Jack McTroll wrote:"- Oh sorry we use guardian." " - Sorry we now have Sacrilege as doctrine. "
Standard Amarr = Safe sex - either use a condom or put a plastic bag over your partner's head until they stop complaining
Gallente - Live dangerous by being undergunned and let your drones do the talking
I wish more Blood Raider ships were based on Gal ships for this reason "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Anathema Device
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.18 12:51:00 -
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IDGAD wrote:For PvP Amarr and Gallente are both good races mainly because armor is pretty OP. There are a few exceptions like the rare caldari missile boat, and nagas which actually use gallente weapons (hybrids). When starting Amarr I had to train Cap and other Engineering skills which meant I could cross-train into virtually anything then fly virtually anything without capping out. Changing to shield tanking Logistics with Caldari or Minmitar incursions ships was a major skills training holdup after concentrating on Armour. Joining a Corp that used Gallente Dreds then becomes another major skills training holdup. This doesn't mean a new player should aim for a maximum Ammar/Caldari/Gallente/Minmitar skill set.
If the person is joining a player Corp with an introduction from a friend then they should get guidance from their Corp mates to mesh into the Corp. If the player doesn't know the game and doesn't have any friends in game then they should join a training Corp like Eve University then discuss the issue of racial based training. People without connections in an NPC Corp are in the worst position as they will not know what is good advice when it is swamped by crap advice. In these circumstances it doesn't matter what racial based training is completed. Like Alice in Wonderland, if you don't know your destination then it doesn't matter what path you take. There is no perfect race for a new player just lots of choices and you may not know what you should have been training until the need for a skill arises in game.
Personally, I varied my training plan depending on my activities in EVE. E.g. when doing PI I trained PI skills. Then I wanted to swap to incursions so I dropped PI skills and started on Logistics, and so it went on.
If a new player wants to carebear solo mine in HiSec then racial based training is really not so important. At the other extreme if a new player wants to solo PvP in an NPC Corp they are going to lose ships in LoSec/Null and race is not going to radically change their initial ship loses. Once they have a handle on the mechanics of combat they can decide if turrents, missiles, drones, EWAR or logistic ship is their preferred direction. Until they have experienced all these combat modes race is not important. Hopefully after the tutorials they have a better idea of what suits their play style and then decide which is the best race for their enjoyment of the game.
My recommendation for new players is not to get hung up on which is the best race as there is no right answer. If you start trying to train every skill you will end up with a pilot that can do everything poorly. Selectively training skills for one role allows a new player to overtake the older player who tries to do everything at once. Of course there will always be a way for a player to be taken down in Eve unless they never undock.
Of course this being Eve, my race is always better than any other race. Unfortunately, I fly ships of all races. |
Anathema Device
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.18 13:03:00 -
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Jack McTroll wrote:In theory no race should be better than other but more suitable for each different situation. I have 25 m sp in gallente skills and i was kinda happy about it. I even have logistics to L5. BUT ! recently ive been looking for a new corp or aliance and when i say i have Oneiros L5 everyone replies "- Oh sorry we use guardian." Then i say i have gallente battleships 5 and the recruiters say "- Oh we only fly BS in very rare occasions and even then we prefer HACS or T3 crusers more and more." At this point i say - Fine. im planning to skill for Deimos. and i get " - Sorry we now have Sacrilege as doctrine. " Then i give them my eveboard sheet http://eveboard.com/pilot/Jack_McTroll. and i generaly get "- your skills look fine and we like how you skill focused. But can you shield tank your Talos, train caldari cruisers and also fly scimitar ? So i log off and cry. +1
This is Eve, you can't win. |
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CCP Falcon
7142
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Posted - 2014.05.18 14:25:00 -
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Quote:Is Gallente the best race ?
Yes.
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
204
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Posted - 2014.05.18 14:33:00 -
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4-AcO-DMT wrote:gallente master race cone-head reporting in
There's a nipple under that hairpiece, isn't there?
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Jack McTroll
TOYS R US. The Harlequin's
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Posted - 2014.05.18 15:40:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Quote:Is Gallente the best race ? Yes.
I would say you are taking the **** and im fine about it. At this point i deserve to be laughed at for being so resilient about cross training.
But when you go out from alliance recruiter to alliance recruiter and they all say you need to fly guardians and sac or pirate battleships you realize that the time of the Bs is coming to an end and guardian + sac and guardian + t3 is the place to be.
For balance sake, the choice between the two armor logistic ships should be more disputed than it is at present. Maybe a bonus to an unrelated skill that takes a mid slot is not as fundamentally useful as a bonus to a related skill that uses a high slot ? |
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
378
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Posted - 2014.05.18 16:12:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:Amarr is master race, you plebs.
This and /Thread. Meet the Mario Kart 8 - Capsuleer Club Cup |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
770
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Posted - 2014.05.18 16:21:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:Blaze Oglory wrote:While gal might be decent ships, weren't they decended from the french? faster in reverse and all that!!! I tried creating a special launcher for Gallente ships that shoot white flags at the enemy, but CCP Rise and Fozzie used their veto against that idea. But that's ok, I'll find a way around them. Need to talk to the Art guys to change the Megathron hull to a croissant. I see a lot of fellow Americans making fun of France while forgetting that it was the French that helped create the USA. In the end I think the French will be getting the last laugh when the story is done.
Considering the anti-French thing in the US came mainly from France claiming there were no WMDs of significance in Iraq and that an Iraq war would just cost a lot of lives for no real purpose ... i think the French already have. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1123
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Posted - 2014.05.18 16:56:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:Blaze Oglory wrote:While gal might be decent ships, weren't they decended from the french? faster in reverse and all that!!! I tried creating a special launcher for Gallente ships that shoot white flags at the enemy, but CCP Rise and Fozzie used their veto against that idea. But that's ok, I'll find a way around them. Need to talk to the Art guys to change the Megathron hull to a croissant. I see a lot of fellow Americans making fun of France while forgetting that it was the French that helped create the USA. In the end I think the French will be getting the last laugh when the story is done. Considering the anti-French thing in the US came mainly from France claiming there were no WMDs of significance in Iraq and that an Iraq war would just cost a lot of lives for no real purpose ... i think the French already have.
That's ridiculous. Its been around for generations.
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Angelique Duchemin
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
782
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Posted - 2014.05.18 17:33:00 -
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I don't see why anyone would train "race specific" All ships and weapon systems have their own trees after the tiercide.
If you want to fly an Archon because it's the most popular Carrier then that doesn't mean you have to train for the Purifier as your bomber of choice. All they have in common is the sensor compensation skill.
The turrets have all the related skills in common so training for Large Lasers and small projectiles are about the same amount of work as Large and small lasers. Drones and Missiles span all races in one form or another,
My ship Roster is Gallente battleship Minmatar/Gallente Logi Amarr bomber,
And in the future: Minmatar/Amarr Hictor
Amarr/Minmatar/Caldari T2 cruiser
Minmatar Carrier Caldari Dread* Amarr Super Carrier
*Assuming they have fixed it by the time It's time to train for it. The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity. |
Arronicus
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
975
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Posted - 2014.05.18 18:59:00 -
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"All their ships use only two weapon systems"
Clearly, you're referring to the glorious Caldari here.
ALL, every single Caldari ship are bonused for either hybrid turrets (railguns usually) or missiles are their primary damage application.
With gallente, this is not the case. Not only does the Nemesis use missiles as its primary damage application (Wah wah it's a stealth bomber: It's still gallente, suck it up)), but ships like the Dominix and Myrmidon are designed in a way that actually favours non-hybrid weapon systems for pve and pvp to augment their dps. Caldari ships recognize the greatness of hybrids and do not stoop to such levels as allowing equal opportunity usage for lasers and projectiles.
Caldari is the best race. |
Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3254
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:16:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:"All their ships use only two weapon systems"
Clearly, you're referring to the glorious Caldari here.
ALL, every single Caldari ship are bonused for either hybrid turrets (railguns usually) or missiles are their primary damage application.
With gallente, this is not the case. Not only does the Nemesis use missiles as its primary damage application (Wah wah it's a stealth bomber: It's still gallente, suck it up)), but ships like the Dominix and Myrmidon are designed in a way that actually favours non-hybrid weapon systems for pve and pvp to augment their dps. Caldari ships recognize the greatness of hybrids and do not stoop to such levels as allowing equal opportunity usage for lasers and projectiles.
Caldari is the best race.
Until you get through their shields, then it's just a matter of squishing their papier mache hulls between your fingers. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Cpt Tirel
98
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:19:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:"All their ships use only two weapon systems"
Clearly, you're referring to the glorious Caldari here.
ALL, every single Caldari ship are bonused for either hybrid turrets (railguns usually) or missiles are their primary damage application.
With gallente, this is not the case. Not only does the Nemesis use missiles as its primary damage application (Wah wah it's a stealth bomber: It's still gallente, suck it up)), but ships like the Dominix and Myrmidon are designed in a way that actually favours non-hybrid weapon systems for pve and pvp to augment their dps. Caldari ships recognize the greatness of hybrids and do not stoop to such levels as allowing equal opportunity usage for lasers and projectiles.
Caldari is the best race.
Gallente uses 1 weapon system, hybrids. All players of all races gotta train for drones. Gallente are just better at using them.
Caldari may recognize the greatness of hybrids but their hybrid hulls are just silly. When i try to think of ships Caldari has that are worth flying over Gallente, two comes to mind. Crow and Falcon. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5341
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:32:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:I very publicly rage quit and now I'm back with my tail between my legs
Like no one saw that coming. I'm glad you are not Gallente. It would shame me.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3254
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:36:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:I very publicly rage quit and now I'm back with my tail between my legs Like no one saw that coming. I'm glad you are not Gallente. It would shame me. Mr Epeen
I'm not. I'm Intaki You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
172
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Posted - 2014.05.18 22:48:00 -
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Got a friend into the game recently..
Got him to roll Gally as he wanted to pvp.. put him straight into FW with a Nuet Tristan, as with this he doesnt need to worry about gunenry skills nuets are quick to train for and didnt overly matter about his drones skills if he cant be shot at =D
I hear he is doing well, got his first solo kill in the first few days of playing =D |
Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
7704
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Posted - 2014.05.18 22:53:00 -
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Caldari in general are the best, of course.
But it's us Achurans who're the true master race.
Other than the occasional Sebiestor we're by far the best looking sentients in New Eden.
Major (Ret.) Caldari Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model Gÿá Wormhole Diary | GÖí #420roloswag
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1755
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Posted - 2014.05.18 22:54:00 -
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Gallente for life.
(pay no mind to the fact that Ferox is my favorite ship....) That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Aiwha
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
743
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Posted - 2014.05.18 22:58:00 -
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Caldari master race. Remember the Kairiola Gallente scum. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1757
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Posted - 2014.05.18 23:04:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Caldari master race. Remember the Kairiola Gallente scum.
I remember how we finally knocked that hideous titan out of orbit in Luminaire :p That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4902
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Posted - 2014.05.18 23:21:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:"All their ships use only two weapon systems"
Clearly, you're referring to the glorious Caldari here.
ALL, every single Caldari ship are bonused for either hybrid turrets (railguns usually) or missiles are their primary damage application.
With gallente, this is not the case. Not only does the Nemesis use missiles as its primary damage application (Wah wah it's a stealth bomber: It's still gallente, suck it up)), but ships like the Dominix and Myrmidon are designed in a way that actually favours non-hybrid weapon systems for pve and pvp to augment their dps. Caldari ships recognize the greatness of hybrids and do not stoop to such levels as allowing equal opportunity usage for lasers and projectiles.
Caldari is the best race.
Not sure about that but clearly the mastery tables for Gallente ships get rather colorful because of this wider array of choices. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
172
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Posted - 2014.05.19 00:02:00 -
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Also Gally ships a lot sexier than the drab Caldari options |
Autoz
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2014.05.19 01:13:00 -
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Minmatar are the best race so lets lock this thread already |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
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Posted - 2014.05.19 02:08:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Other than the occasional Sebiestor we're by far the best looking sentients in New Eden. So... you're not into Vherokior babes anymore?
Garandras wrote:Also Gally ships a lot sexier than the drab Caldari options Very true. There are ships among the Gallente, Amarr, and Minmatar lines that are very nice looking. Caldari, on the other hand... not so much.
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Ren Coursa
Rapid Withdrawal
14
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Posted - 2014.05.19 06:41:00 -
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Yes we are. Good thing it doesn't matter in a game like eve. |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
681
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Posted - 2014.05.19 07:00:00 -
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Cpt Tirel wrote:Caldari may recognize the greatness of hybrids but their hybrid hulls are just silly. You have never been on the recieving end of a Naga sniping fleet have you
Edit: You don't want to be on the recieving end of a Naga sniping fleet... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Erica Dusette
Rolled Out
7763
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Posted - 2014.05.19 07:13:00 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:So... you're not into Vherokior babes anymore? How incredibly rude of me ...
Ms Turigahl, there are always exceptions to a rule. I speak of the rule of races, not of individuals.
When we look into the sky we don't just see the one starscape, I believe we see many at once - all mingled together. In each there is always that one crystaline glimmer that shines far brighter than the rest.
For me, in the Vherokior starscape, you are that glimmer. You are that exception. You are my exception.
People such as I are left surface-bound, merely able to cast our wanting-gaze on your distant glow. Forever reaching upward for something, for someone, who may always be out of our reach.
My apologies for forgetting you, Ms Turigahl. If only for a fleeting heartbeat.
Should you ever desire I make up for my gross oversight of your beauty then I lay myself at your disposal to do so. Major (Ret.) Caldari Militia | Part-time wormhole pirate | Full-time super model Gÿá Wormhole Diary | GÖí #420roloswag
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1121
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Posted - 2014.05.19 07:44:00 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:Should you ever desire I make up for my gross oversight of your beauty then I lay myself at your disposal to do so. *cough* I didn't know you were into ladies too. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
Red blood, boiling hot! |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2014.05.19 08:01:00 -
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Confirming Gallente are the Master race. |
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