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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: HuntKillBury Fin on 30/05/2006 15:40:25 Hi-Slots:
4 x Siege T2 3 x Cruise T2 1 x Heavy Dim.
Med-Slots:
Gisti A-Class Small Shield Booster [87.5 boost every 2 secs] Faction Boost Amp giving 41.25% boost Gist X-Type Shield Boost [giving 925 boost every 4 secs]
Gist X-Type Photon Hardener Gist X-Type Thermal Hardener DG Inv. Field [37.5%]
Lo-Slots:
3 x DG BCS's 2 x TS PDU's
Almost all my missile skills are maxed out and with the 3 DG BCS' the DPS is huge. I could upgrade the Nos to faction and I'm toying with getting 3 x DG Cruise launchers but I like using T2 ammo.
Is there much else I can do this CNR? Pilots more experienced than I are openly invited to comment.
I read a lot of mah ship is the best etc, etc in here and I am most definitely NOT saying that at all. But the amount of iskies I've spent on this ship almost makes me squeamish about taking it out, lol.
Addendum: This CNR is flown by one of my other characters who is an early '04 pilot
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.05.30 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Gronsak on 30/05/2006 15:42:47 loose the gistii a-type small shield booster for another amp or another invol
edit: Med-Slots: would probably be better tank with
2 x Faction Boost Amp giving 41.25% boost 1x faction xl booster 3 x DG Inv. Field [37.5%]
and add high grade crystals
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 30/05/2006 15:42:47 loose the gistii a-type small shield booster for another amp or another invol
edit: Med-Slots: would probably be better tank with
2 x Faction Boost Amp giving 41.25% boost 1x faction xl booster 3 x DG Inv. Field [37.5%]
and add high grade crystals
Hi Gronsak,
Yeah, I've often used that slot as the one I chop about a bit. I've stuck a TP in there before and at times, as you suggest, another hardener.
Good suggestion chap, thanks for taking the time to comment.
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 30/05/2006 15:42:47and add high grade crystals
'High Grade Crystals'?
Am I being thick here?
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 30/05/2006 15:42:47 edit: Med-Slots: would probably be better tank with
2 x Faction Boost Amp giving 41.25% boost 1x faction xl booster 3 x DG Inv. Field [37.5%]
Hmmm....now THAT seems interesting. I'll give that a try. I've got another amp in the hangar. Thanks.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.05.30 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: HuntKillBury Fin
Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 30/05/2006 15:42:47and add high grade crystals
'High Grade Crystals'?
Am I being thick here?
crystal implant set ;) helps with shield boost
Originally by: Sarmaul I WILL FIREBOMB CCP IF MINMATAR GET A T2 BATTLECRUISER WITH A ******* TARGET PAINTING BONUS
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.05.30 15:56:00 -
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Can you post with your main and let us know if you do missions in <0.5
The small shield booster is a bit of a waste of a midslot tbh. A second amp would give more of a bonus I think.
You can fit better but you're at the point of diminishing returns, its not worth the amount of money you'd need to make it any better.
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Iratus Caelestis Can you post with your main and let us know if you do missions in <0.5 Quote:
Lol, I may be able to accommodate you.
Quote: The small shield booster is a bit of a waste of a midslot tbh. A second amp would give more of a bonus I think.
You can fit better but you're at the point of diminishing returns, its not worth the amount of money you'd need to make it any better.
Cool, thanks for taking the time to post.
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: HuntKillBury Fin
Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 30/05/2006 15:42:47and add high grade crystals
'High Grade Crystals'?
Am I being thick here?
crystal implant set ;) helps with shield boost
Ah, I see now.
Got a few of them, but not High Grade. Kept losing them in wars.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Iratus Caelestis Can you post with your main and let us know if you do missions in <0.5
The small shield booster is a bit of a waste of a midslot tbh. A second amp would give more of a bonus I think.
You can fit better but you're at the point of diminishing returns, its not worth the amount of money you'd need to make it any better.
you be suprised at the number of faction BS kitted with faction geat in low sec ddoing plex or missions!!
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Drake Rabies
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:20:00 -
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You own all that equipment yet you dont know how to fit your billion isk raven? It didnt occur that t2 fitting for testing configurations over all those months you mission *****d that isk would be a help? Gisti A-type Small shield booster? ... ebay?
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Rabies You own all that equipment yet you dont know how to fit your billion isk raven? It didnt occur that t2 fitting for testing configurations over all those months you mission *****d that isk would be a help? Gisti A-type Small shield booster? ... ebay?
Drake,
I have been missioning for nearly a year now and slowly built up the isk to be able to get a raven. Same with the modules. Of course I used T2 gear all the way until I could afford the faction gear. The Gisti-A type was a huge help in the early days of missioning. However, Flying a CNR for a relatively short space of time made me start to wonder if I am simply throwing isk at a ship's slots to see how far it can go.
I wasn't asking for help to fit the ship, I was merely asking for other pilot's ideas and suggestions.
it is a great shame that players like you are so quick to be rude and dismissive without recourse to the original qurestion. I imagine you could, if you really tried, offer more of an insight instead of gobbing off out of the side of your neck for no other reason than in here you're just another anonymous t*at behind a keyboard who, in RL, would not only be the primary, but the middle and also the tail-ender when it came to a RL fight.
In other words, get off me and go back to humping your neighbours dog. Damn, planks like you really need to quit your *****-ass comments and either BRING something to the table instead of constantly TAKING from it.
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:40:00 -
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yeah this **** ****es me off too... this guy has a **** ton of isk to waste on a ship and mods he doesn't know how to fly with...
please am i missing something about eve?
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Praenor
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:41:00 -
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Well, you can do more, but it gets exponentially more expensive. This is probably the 'ultimate', but what does it cost?
6x Estamel's cruise Shaqil's heavy nos
3x Estamel's Invulnerability Estamel's shield boost amp X-type 100mn AB Estamel's x-large booster
Estamel's co-proc 2 x Terachi's PDS 2 x Estamel's BCS
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jbob2000
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Posted - 2006.05.30 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: HuntKillBury Fin Edited by: HuntKillBury Fin on 30/05/2006 15:40:25 Hi-Slots:
4 x Siege T2 3 x Cruise T2 1 x Heavy Dim.
Med-Slots:
Gisti A-Class Small Shield Booster [87.5 boost every 2 secs] Faction Boost Amp giving 41.25% boost Gist X-Type Shield Boost [giving 925 boost every 4 secs]
Gist X-Type Photon Hardener Gist X-Type Thermal Hardener DG Inv. Field [37.5%]
Lo-Slots:
3 x DG BCS's 2 x TS PDU's
Almost all my missile skills are maxed out and with the 3 DG BCS' the DPS is huge. I could upgrade the Nos to faction and I'm toying with getting 3 x DG Cruise launchers but I like using T2 ammo.
Is there much else I can do this CNR? Pilots more experienced than I are openly invited to comment.
I read a lot of mah ship is the best etc, etc in here and I am most definitely NOT saying that at all. But the amount of iskies I've spent on this ship almost makes me squeamish about taking it out, lol.
Addendum: This CNR is flown by one of my other characters who is an early '04 pilot
I don't fly ravens at all, kinda hate them, but that setup is junk.
Mixing launcher types is bad, and it would probably be better to go for named/faction launchers cause T2 ammo is useless for pve (costs too much).
Also, a small shield booster is a huge waste of a slot. As was stated, another hardener or boost amp is a way more effecient use. That or at least a medium booster.
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ethan Tomlinson yeah this **** ****es me off too... this guy has a **** ton of isk to waste on a ship and mods he doesn't know how to fly with...
Quite where does it say I don't know how to fly the ship? Curious.
And you want to get isk? Earn it.
Quote: please am i missing something about eve?
Oh yes, most definitely. They're called 'manners'.
Wtf is wrong with you? Why do you feel it is soooo necessary to come in here slagging me off when I simply asked a question. Go back to the original post and re-read it. I posted with some humility and polite questions. Why do you find it so damn hard to reciprocate?
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Praenor Well, you can do more, but it gets exponentially more expensive. This is probably the 'ultimate', but what does it cost?
6x Estamel's cruise Shaqil's heavy nos
3x Estamel's Invulnerability Estamel's shield boost amp X-type 100mn AB Estamel's x-large booster
Estamel's co-proc 2 x Terachi's PDS 2 x Estamel's BCS
Hi Praenor,
Thanks for that. There's some damn expensive stuff there. Looks like my idea of how far I could take this ship has got some ways to go.
I appreciate you taking the time to post. Nice one.
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000 I don't fly ravens at all, kinda hate them, but that setup is junk.
I think 'junk' is a bit harsh chap.
Quote: Mixing launcher types is bad, and it would probably be better to go for named/faction launchers cause T2 ammo is useless for pve (costs too much).
Yes, you're right, T2 ammo is expensive but it gets me through missions o much faster, lol. And one loot-run usually pays for 15-20 further mission ammo. I'm not a major fan of the Rage ammo, but I do like the Javelin torps.
Quote: Also, a small shield booster is a huge waste of a slot. As was stated, another hardener or boost amp is a way more effecient use. That or at least a medium booster.
I agree. Like I said, it was a throwback to when I used a standard Raven for missioning, but as you and several others have pointed out, it is a waste of a slot and I'll change it to a secondary faction amp.
Thanks for posting chap, I appreciate your thoughts.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.05.30 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Praenor Well, you can do more, but it gets exponentially more expensive. This is probably the 'ultimate', but what does it cost?
6x Estamel's cruise Shaqil's heavy nos
3x Estamel's Invulnerability Estamel's shield boost amp X-type 100mn AB Estamel's x-large booster
Estamel's co-proc 2 x Terachi's PDS 2 x Estamel's BCS
You forgot a launcher, it should be 7x on the Navy Raven, not 6x. Anyway, now that T2 launchers are out, faction launchers really aren't worth it anymore...being able to use T2 ammo generally outweighs the stats benefit of faction vs T2. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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HuntKillBury Fin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 17:46:00 -
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Well, as usual there has been two types of reply to a standard question posted in an EvE thread.
There are the helpful, frinedly posters who will disagree with you yet manage to word it in such a way that no offence is given, or taken.
Then there are the fools. Those who have no idea how to put across their point w/o resorting to simply slagging off the OP.
And that is a shame. Because I guaranf***ingtee that in RL these dopes wouldn't dare enter into a conversation with that sort of attitude for fear of getting their arses handed to them on a plate. Yet in here they are uber-hard men. Well, dopes, how's it feel to be uber-hard behind a keyboard?
My thanks go to those in the former description. My thanks also go to those in the latter group, because fools like that will always end up gracing a Darwin Award sooner or later in RL.
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.30 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tehyarec on 30/05/2006 18:41:02 I'm curious, why did you use the small booster on the normal Raven either (if I understood corrently, that's what you did)? Granted I don't have high-grade stuff and am quite new to shield tanking (tomorrow I can fly a Cyclone, which will be my first truly properly shield tanked ship), but it seems to me that even then an extra amp (even tech I) would have been much better combined with an XLarge Booster. If you used in on a smaller ship instead, that I can understand, as it's still plausible for a BC to replace a MSB II, and even more so for cruisers.
Granted, I don't understand the reasoning behind using it on a battleship in any case, but the smacktard replies were still out of order. Unfortunately there will always be those who just have to flame every remote chance they get
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.05.30 19:00:00 -
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People seem to assume that if you post a setup thread on ships and modules, you have no idea on how to fit the ship. This is not so. Sometimes, people just want to discuss setups in hopes of getting better at it...
Tarkin > Omfg, frigs are such bs. Red 5 > lolol, lern 2 play plz noob
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.05.30 19:02:00 -
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Dual gistii Boosters on a Raven work very well, because most missions dont throw enough DPS at you if done right (group-wise). The problem is to get a perma-tank so that you are immune to the one real danger of mission running: lag / crashes / bugged aggro.
Small gistii boosters allow you to switch everything on, and forget about your tank. Im not sure if you could get that with 3 chelm PDUs and a x-type large booster. If you dont face NPCs that can prevent your NOS from working (jammers, no idea wether serpentis damp enough to hurt), get a officer NOS that can reach the typical BS you are facing, and voila, free 10 cap / s. It took me 2 weeks to sell a chelm NOS for 600m ... so they are basically free.
Gistii SBs may be not enough to do the really hard missions, but usually those are not worth it anyway (GE, Worlds collide etc are doable with dual gistii SB + DG invul + x-type kinetic and thermal hardeners)
On a pvp raven, i would use b-type XL booster (cheap 400m).
Dont get faction launchers, they are a waste on a raven, unless you can get estamel cruises (good luck with that). T2 torpedos are too good to pass up - precision cruises used to be a must for mission runners, but that changed. So vepas / estamel cruises are decent option, but if you use torps, get t2. 50m more or less for ammo is usually your least concern when grinding up standing or blitzing missions for LP.
On another note, if i sell off everything i have, i could afford an imperial armageddon with the best kit in game, and still have money left for a 30m SP character to fly it. I have absolutely no clue how to fit it though.
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.05.30 19:23:00 -
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I dont really think id personally use Faction seige\cruise launchers over t2 i love my t2 ammo too much.
but Yeah the mids and lows id use have already been posted --------------------------------------------------------
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.05.30 19:38:00 -
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well for rattlesnake: 6x estamel's siege, 2x heavy dim (cpu is pain) xl x type gist, east. boost amp, 3x estamel's hardeners + estamel's invul 3x estamel's bcu, 2x chelm's pdu, 1x estamel's cpu
Why is this setup good: 1. <6s rof on sieges, 2. lowest resist on shield is explosive, which is funny coz everyone will try to hit you with em/th, and 1000+ dps from t1 torps is uber also. Navy raven sucks if you compare to this, because it cannot fit 7x estamel's launchers.
And tbh, ravens are just boring ships in pve, must try in pvp :P... I think i'll post some new pvp standards soon...
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:13:00 -
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This is what I used to run missions with. Got bored with missions and just recently sold it tho.
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tomas Nuerin This is what I used to run missions with. Got bored with missions and just recently sold it tho.
lol i have clicked on that link for like 15X now, its kinda obvious how much raven pilots there are that dont know how to fit there ships, even when they can fit the biggest *bling* *bling*..
Else i wouldnt see that link that often right _________________________________________________
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2006.05.30 21:04:00 -
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siege/cruise IIs in the highs Draclira NOS
Estamels XL Booster Estamels Amp 2x Estamels invulns Chelms injector
Estamels BCU's mixed with chelm PDUs to fit
PVP fitting of course. A bit samey i guess and will need a tackler. Or how about
7 cruise IIs Drac nos
4x estamels multispecs whatever officer scrambler (-2 at stupid range) chelm injector
2x 1260 armor reps 2x chelm EANMs 1x estamel BCU or chelm RCU to fit or sommat
or something like that
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Barbicane
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Posted - 2006.05.30 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: HuntKillBury Fin
4 x Siege T2 3 x Cruise T2 1 x Heavy Dim.
I'd guess the mixed launchers is due to cpu fitting reasons? If so you might want to try switching to a medium t2 Nos and fit another siege or two.
And as the others have already suggested, another DG invul instead of the Gist A-type would give better performance, or a t2 cap recharger if you are low on cpu.
My CNR loadout looks like this:
7x Siege T2 1x Medium Nos T2
1x Gist X-type shield booster 1x Gist X-type Photon hardener 1x DG Thermal hardener 1x DG Invul field 1x DG Kinetic Amplifier 1x Gist X-type shield boost amp
1x DG BCS 4x TS/DB PDUs
It's an awesome tank but could use more damage. I would switch some PDUs for BCSs but then I'd need to skimp on somehing else because it's got something like 1-2 spare CPU as it is.
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.30 21:39:00 -
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I'd say keep t2 launchers, despite what some people have said. Javs may be expensive, but because of the speed, they take less time to do missions, hence more ISK, and more LPs. :) ------------------------------
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