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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Glarion Garnier on 30/05/2006 16:05:37
The ideas to Reinvent piracy in eve (inspired from current piracy discussions)
introduction: I'm not a pirate as you might have quessed lookign at my char info. But I value working game above everything else so from time to time I try to think how things could be better.
So first of all realism. I came up with positive ideas and some negative: (some ideas prolly were mentioned in the on going discussions)
Negative Effects:
-if you have sec status below -1.5 you cannot dock on any Concord related stations. -if you have sec status below -5 you cannot dock at empire stations 0.5-1.0 at all -If you have bad sec status every -1 lvl -1,-2 etc. makes it more costly to use clones at all empire stations expect if you have positive standing of over 5 for that particular corp you are doing bussiness with first the price gets 10% increase, then 20% at lvl 2 but at -3 it jumps to 35% then get's growin 10% per minus lvl
Concord may send assasin after a very low sec pirates in low sec space 0.1-0.4 (this is a both threath to pirate but a opportunity as well -> Loot and fame)
If you have very high faction standing you can shoot pirates of -3 or more at the space you have high faction standing to all pirates that have low enough standing may be warned about the risks (you would need to have 9.0 faction standing to be able to shoot -3 and lower pirates)
Benefits(pirate hubs and all) this should be fun stuff. YARR
Pirate faction standings make it actually cheaper to clone in their stations. by the standing lvl's too positive player cant enter these hubs.
Some uber bad as players have few NPC stations that only very low sec ppl can enter. (yes this is what you have been dreaming about actual pirate HUBS) or these pirates could pay a invite feeto allow a high sec person to enter (a kind of visiting right for a cost) they could set up stuff for sale at such stations but could not use cloning etc.
FOR DA UBER BAD A** PIRATE LORDS THE OPTION TO BUILD a Blackmarket Station to pirate faction space only when you get standing for pirate (serpentis etc) corp high up. Where a uber pirate lord can have their own Oupost with all the required bells and whistles.
NPC pirates would offer services of limited NPC fleet support in the system that you have your Pirate HUB in.
G.G - 
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Fred DeLuca
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:24:00 -
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.30 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Fred DeLuca no

Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.05.30 18:11:00 -
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What you're suggesting is turning pirates into alliances, building stations, which requires claiming space.
Some interesting and well thought out, albeit confusing suggestions.
I'll sit this one out.
VETO RECRUITMENT
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2006.05.30 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Glarion Garnier on 30/05/2006 18:54:23 The most important idea. From a pirates point of view. There would be a few stations scattered in the 0.0 space. That would only be accessible if you had -5 or -7.5
The station would provide cheap cloning + some other cool stuff. Place to call a pirates home. Remember all those stories about secret island where pirates hangout then they go to do raids from it. It could even be a HUGE asteroid wich had base built in. And once you could only get BM for it by not beeing good naturally. It could even have setry guns that shoot all ppl who have positive standing :) LOL
The true Black market . there would be labs for building illegal stuff and all.
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Zarithas
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Posted - 2006.05.30 19:28:00 -
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Assassin? No. "Oh hey, I just saved enough to buy this brand new Deimos!" *A CONCORD assassin comes along and destroys it without anyway to defend himself against it*. Won't work. Doesn't matter how many people you've killed, you should never be killed in an unfair manner in this game in an UNAVOIDABLE way. I can understand if there were assassins specifically for 0.5-1.0 or something, if people are passing by them without CONCORD getting them. ----- Want to join a true pirate corp that will accept and train newbs, and also recruit pros? More info here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=343001 |

uraniumcore1
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:05:00 -
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NO....You are now on my KOS...list...carebears...dont you just love'm...ya to eat...core.
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:09:00 -
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It wont work because NPC stations in 0.0 space are going to be, and always have been in the past, claimed by 0.0 alliances. There will never been such a thing as an open pirate hub because somebody will claim it and police the area due to the general rarity of stations in 0.0 space. -- New Petition Inc Vid This signature is protected by the pattented NoDev 2000 technology. THERE WILL BE NO COLORS But colors are fun!!-Kaemonn
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Brisi
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bentguru It wont work because NPC stations in 0.0 space are going to be, and always have been in the past, claimed by 0.0 alliances. There will never been such a thing as an open pirate hub because somebody will claim it and police the area due to the general rarity of stations in 0.0 space.
Plus all the pirates would just shoot each other, so it wouldn't make sense.
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.05.30 21:48:00 -
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Complete garbage the cons outway the benifits, by a lot; also it seems way to everquesty to me, would severly limit how you can and can not pirate, and how ou play the game.
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2006.05.31 09:34:00 -
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Guys. the stations I meantioned that require -5 or more bad standing would be in NPC contorol offcourse you would only get access to it. The aspect that some Pirate baron can build up their own station is whole different thing that would be in NPC pirate space.
Actually if you dont see the benefits what a NPC owned but only pirate accessible stations actually provide you. Try to figure it out.
The point that you might have to join up with some one ppl might not be so bad idea after all. Say If there was two of these stations at the opposite ends of 0.0 space. Only a pirate organisation could try to dominate in that system. After all the sentries would open fire on all positive players. And you could not claim the system for your self as NPC's allready own it.
The aspect about pirates shooting each other well I cannot do anything about that. it's a thing you have to settle among your selves.
Baisically I'd like some realism element to this game by not allowing very bad ppl to run around in empire just how they like. Tho I do think the sec hit's you get atm are bit too high. Those should be lowered a bit.
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2006.05.31 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Superbus Maximus Complete garbage the cons outway the benifits, by a lot; also it seems way to everquesty to me, would severly limit how you can and can not pirate, and how ou play the game.
My idea is not a package that if some part is implemented then othe other thing must be implemented as well. Those are just pointers I think would be nice.
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2006.05.31 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zarithas Assassin? No. "Oh hey, I just saved enough to buy this brand new Deimos!" *A CONCORD assassin comes along and destroys it without anyway to defend himself against it*. Won't work. Doesn't matter how many people you've killed, you should never be killed in an unfair manner in this game in an UNAVOIDABLE way. I can understand if there were assassins specifically for 0.5-1.0 or something, if people are passing by them without CONCORD getting them.
They would not be over powered. And in short time ppl would know how to deal wiht them. In return you would get uber loot. It would only happen rarely that they actually sent an assasin against you. It could be that they first give warning that death may be upon you as you have done so much wrong bla bla blaa. signed Concord Chief Of Antipiracy etc. So you would know when to expect something on those lines to happen.
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Evil Sulu
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Posted - 2006.05.31 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Glarion Garnier Place to call a pirates home. Remember all those stories about secret island where pirates hangout then they go to do raids from it. It could even be a HUGE asteroid wich had base built in. And you could only get BM for it by not beeing good naturally. It could even have setry guns that shoot all ppl who have positive standing :) LOL
Sort of like Disney World for outlaws? Packed to the rafters with rum, expensive breakable objects, strippers, tasers, clowns, acrobats, caged deathmatches, fireworks, and drunken pirate karaoke? That's an awesome idea. This is so /signed.  
I think that if the HUGE asteroid pirate utopia is attacked by capitol ships, it should transform into Unicrom, grab them with its huge robotic hands, and chomp on them like a submarine sandwich. Then again, a huge asteroid hideout is very vulnerable to attack by macro miners - a fleet of mining apocs and Itty V's could bring the entire pirate community to its knees in a matter of hours! 
Eh, maybe piracy is fine as it is.   ----------
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Sulu
Sort of like Disney World for outlaws? Packed to the rafters with rum, expensive breakable objects, strippers, tasers, clowns, acrobats, caged deathmatches, fireworks, and drunken pirate karaoke? That's an awesome idea. This is so /signed.  
I think that if the HUGE asteroid pirate utopia is attacked by capitol ships, it should transform into Unicrom, grab them with its huge robotic hands, and chomp on them like a submarine sandwich. Then again, a huge asteroid hideout is very vulnerable to attack by macro miners - a fleet of mining apocs and Itty V's could bring the entire pirate community to its knees in a matter of hours! 
Eh, maybe piracy is fine as it is.  
At least there were few lines. That's a start I think.
Or is it so that pirates dont want too complex game play . f1.. is more straight foward ? Having to maintain social structure would be too complex, or maintaining a station ?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Epsilon 1
Originally by: Fred DeLuca no
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.06.01 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Epsilon 1
Originally by: Fred DeLuca no
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