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EagleFour
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Posted - 2003.09.23 23:53:00 -
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Woohoo! Everyone declare war on techell and get your free miner II's. They cant kill everybody in the game all at once and i am apt to just log off when i see a large group of them or maybe hide in a base.. or wait better yet logg off while being attacked and switch to an alt! thats the ticket... hell i could make a corporation just to log on and get my free miner II's...anyone got war slots available?
JOBS - Got Moin?
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Chucky
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Posted - 2003.09.23 23:58:00 -
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Finally an Idea that makes sence
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.09.23 23:58:00 -
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no, techell are a decent corp who work hard and have made something of themselves, i dont see why they should be targetted because they just happen to have a miner 2 print. others have those prints too...
yes it stinks the way the print was introduced, but thats not techells fault is it.
now maybe if it was some uber weapon they had the print to.. people would look at it differently. but its not, its a mining laser for freaks sake, its not all that much beter than a cu vapor either.
Roles reversed.. would you sell the lasers fr 46k each? if so then id like to shoot YOU because people who do that crap kill the market for sellers.
you cant blame them for turning a profit out of it, because thats what this game is about and also most people would do the exact same thing if they had the print too... infact, guess what? the others that have the prints DO.
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EagleFour
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:02:00 -
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LOL! i dont sell stuff my corp is not of the manufacturing alignment... i dont even care who techell is.. I care that CCP plays favorites..
and that my friend means techell is a target.. anything to get back at CCP for their horrendous patches and game ethics. JOBS - Got Moin?
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Lady Callisto
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:04:00 -
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Quote: Woohoo! Everyone declare war on techell and get your free miner II's. They cant kill everybody in the game all at once and i am apt to just log off when i see a large group of them or maybe hide in a base.. or wait better yet logg off while being attacked and switch to an alt! thats the ticket... hell i could make a corporation just to log on and get my free miner II's...anyone got war slots available?
I got a free warslot for your sorry behind
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EagleFour
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:06:00 -
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whip it out baby...waste it on me LOL make sure im worth a war slot... hell i cant keep members in the game anynmore they are all friggin quitting because of the bugs and policies... you prob just have to chase me around the game for a while...cant get blood from a stone, how can you surrender something you dont have?
JOBS - Got Moin?
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Igwilve
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:13:00 -
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EagleFour has a lot of egalitarian in him.
It's really quite unfortunate.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:15:00 -
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SkyLeach I didn't have anything against Techell until this "Mega for Miners" crap.
I was perfectly okay with them charging millions for every laser - like you said it's all about turning a profit.
But they have taken it to the next step now: "Your money is no good to us, go WORK for the privelege to get our lasers."
Total crap, and a slap in the face to a community of players already put out by the way in which this blueprint was added to the game.
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |
SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:16:00 -
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eÀgalÀiÀtarÀiÀan ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-gl-tÔr-n) adj. Affirming, promoting, or characterized by belief in equal political, economic, social, and civil rights for all people.
egalitarian
adj : favoring social equality; "a classless society" [syn: classless] n : a person who believes in the equality of all people [syn: equalitarian] --------------------------
Damn i actually had to look that up.
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Datsevlu
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Datsevlu on 24/09/2003 00:23:25 What is your problem? What did we do to you? We were a 10 person corp tell after we got our first BS bp. Me and just a few other members slaved 16 hours a day for the first 3 months of the game to make techell the corp it is today. Ask around there was a time when people used to ask if I ever slept. We put back into the game we buy all our mins atleast at npc market and always have since the begining of the retail. We have held to our guns and off our guns to make a trust worthy corp. And if you think we are dishonest you don't know us and probly have not had dealings with us. -- Datsevlu Blow'em up we'll build more.
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EagleFour
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:25:00 -
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LOL techell guy, thats not the point.. you guys may be nice as you want but a statement needs tobe made and you are the target of the statement.. your right in the middle of it.. I am saying a revolution is coming where we smaller corps have a say in this game. Its should not be fair that the highest performing corporations also get the highest CCP favoritism. Im some sports the lesser guy is offered a handicap to offset the imbalance. Can you reasonably expect a small corporation to have a presence in stain when they do the miner II bp release bull****... no you cant which means tey knew the only people who could play were the big boys. JOBS - Got Moin?
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:32:00 -
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While I did get ****ed about mega and all, I would still rather pod you then someone from techell =) --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
EagleFour
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:38:00 -
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Step in line bro you and a billion other people. some have already succeeded but the revolution is here and you cant stomp on the lesser people without consequences.
We have a voice to. JOBS - Got Moin?
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.24 00:45:00 -
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Quote: we buy all our mins atleast at npc market
No you don't, just today you got 640,000,000+ isk worth of megacyte at far below market prices.
Quote: What is your problem? What did we do to you?
Let me summarize for you: "We are no longer accepting isk."
It was acceptable to overcharge for the Miner IIs. Some people were angry, but most people accepted it and paid happily.
But now our ISK is no good to you, we get a price hike AND we have to go out and get our hands on the rarest ore in the game (which is difficult to come by). You're saying it's not good enough that we're willing to pay, we also need to do your WORK for you now. Now you don't have to mine any megacyte, or (god forbid) purchase it from players - you wouldn't want to see RED in your books now would you.
Considering you were already making billions off this BP, there was no need to take it to this point - it shows GREED in its purest form.
You claim to have such humble beginnings, then you should have respect for the common miner who might be able to afford 2.5M for a laser - but would rather not be "put to work" mining your minerals for you.
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LiverpoolFC
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Posted - 2003.09.24 01:16:00 -
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I will reserve judgement until the next Tech 2 item is release.
How much will people pay for a Tech Lvl 2 Cargo Expander with 40% cargo space increase?
If Techell get that as well, then I and proberably many others will leave the game. You can put the first BP down to luck, 2nd BP has to go to any other corp but Techell or we smell a rat. However until my subs run out, I will join any corp waging war on Techell. *******s to my SR and carebear image.
CCP, don't screw up the next release of a tech lvl 2 BP, please, I like the game too much.
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Data Loss
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Posted - 2003.09.24 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Data Loss on 24/09/2003 01:23:36
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Quote: we buy all our mins atleast at npc market
No you don't, just today you got 640,000,000+ isk worth of megacyte at far below market prices.
Quote: What is your problem? What did we do to you?
Let me summarize for you: "We are no longer accepting isk."
It was acceptable to overcharge for the Miner IIs. Some people were angry, but most people accepted it and paid happily.
But now our ISK is no good to you, we get a price hike AND we have to go out and get our hands on the rarest ore in the game (which is difficult to come by). You're saying it's not good enough that we're willing to pay, we also need to do your WORK for you now. Now you don't have to mine any megacyte, or (god forbid) purchase it from players - you wouldn't want to see RED in your books now would you.
Considering you were already making billions off this BP, there was no need to take it to this point - it shows GREED in its purest form.
You claim to have such humble beginnings, then you should have respect for the common miner who might be able to afford 2.5M for a laser - but would rather not be "put to work" mining your minerals for you.
i couldnt have said it better. mining is MUCH harder than making isk. takes more time and work. techell = THIEVES
i wasnt saying anything about when they where overpriced cause well its only isk, and i didnt want to get mad. but NOW its just plain stupid
go do your OWN work lazy greedy bums edit:oops
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Rayne
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Posted - 2003.09.24 04:15:00 -
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Techell does indeed work hard, and they get what they deserve, I just don't undertsand the idiotic jealousy that 75% of the people on these forums show
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Lucas De'Thal
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Posted - 2003.09.24 06:05:00 -
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Quote: Techell does indeed work hard, and they get what they deserve, I just don't undertsand the idiotic jealousy that 75% of the people on these forums show
maybe because Techell is not the only corp that works hard and put's a lot of time into this game THUS should we not be provided with the same opportunities ( in general of course )
______________________________________________ Hellmar > sorry for the attitude, playing a n00b character through the current state just left me a bit bitter dev chat: Mar 18, 2004
hellmar> "you lot are just so clever you have a good history for out smarting us :-S " dev chat: Feb 12, 2004 |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.24 06:42:00 -
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Techell are to be punished for working hard and actually taking part in events?
Get a grip, you whining *****es, it's only a bloody mining laser!
Nobody is forcing you to buy them.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.09.24 07:14:00 -
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more and more idiots show on these boards. techell works VERY hard to be what they are now. they are respectable players. techell's miner 2 price is the LOWEST price on market, techell wasn't get the bp from ccp, techell bought it, so you idiots should SHUT UP.If you can't afford miner 2, then use miner 1 or cry to your mom for a miner 200000, ok?
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.09.24 07:55:00 -
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People seem to forget that Techell's main product line is not Miner IIs. They sell ships. LOTS of ships. LOTS of BIG ships. With the price of megacyte going through the roof, I can see where a corp that produces battleships would be having problems. They need a LOT of megacyte to function, and they don't mine their own ore, so that means they buy large quantities of megacyte from miners. Unfortunately, there just isn't ENOUGH megacyte to go around lately.
So which would YOU like to see them do?
1) Raise battleship prices to account for spending 12k ISK a chunk for megacyte?
2) Slow down battleship production and therefore buy a lot less Tritanium through Zydrine?
3) Trade Miner IIs for megacyte so they can keep their ship costs down and keep production going?
I'd say #3 looks best. Remember, the people who really need Miner IIs are the experienced full-time miners. These are also the people who actually HAVE megacyte. Techell is simply trying to get megacyte by offering something more valuable than mere ISK for it. Anyone can get a Miner II for ISK on the market, it just costs more. Anyone can get a Miner II from Techell by buying megacyte to swap for it. And if enough people started selling megacyte to Techell for ISK, they'd probably start selling the Miner IIs again.
Or just offer Techell a billion or so ISK for a Miner II BP... they weren't GIVEN the BPs, they BOUGHT them. Offer them enough and you probably can buy one too, and then sell for whatever you want.
PS: No, I'm not in Techell. I just consider them one of the better megacorps. And if the mega-for-miners deal lets them keep selling cheaper ships, I'm all for it.
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Ndubs
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Posted - 2003.09.24 09:31:00 -
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I'm really starting to feel bad for Techell. All you douches who think they are in the midst of a giant conspiracy created by CCP to seperate us into social classes of rich and poor should know that you're stupid. This is my third posting tonight in which i defend Techell.
Fact: When Miner II came out I could not find it on trade channel anywhere.
Fact: When it did show up on trade channel it was for around 4.5 million to 5 million.
Fact: When I hear that Techell had a BP I asked them and they were selling for 2.5 million, for no reason except that is what the wanted to charge
Fact: 2.5 million is less than 4.5 million
Fact: They limited the purchases to 10 per customer to make more availible for other people
Fact: They created a waiting list to keep things inline and people from getting upset
Fact: CEO of very small corp and we love Techell!
...btw anyone who posts after me with some Fact: im dissin you like how your post went cause im a comic genius is a douche
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.24 09:45:00 -
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DreamCatchers Inc. is a very satisfied customer from Techell, we therefor will offer Techell support in any conflict that will arrise from this mather.
Techell is know for its low prices in ship manufactoring.
You can ask yourself this:
What is worse, a techell that sells Miner 2's for 3.5 mil or TTI that sells for 5mil a piece?
Or
What is worse, a techell that sells Miner 2's or a Stain alliance that keeps their miner 2's to themselves? __________________________
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Serge
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Posted - 2003.09.24 09:53:00 -
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Yeah, strange kind of ppl on these boards again. So grudging ... and overreacting! ***********************************************
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Fartracker
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Posted - 2003.09.24 09:55:00 -
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Actually, I'd be selling them for 250k, and telling all you greedy, whining LUSERS, to:
EAT MY SHORTS Eat My Shorts! |
Boneca
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Posted - 2003.09.24 09:58:00 -
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Why do so many people feel aggreived that Techell BOUGHT a miner2 bp and sell ther item for a profit , they aren't a charity. I am looking forward to miner3's bein introduced , hopefully a "miner2 price whiner" will get the bp and will obviously be selling them for little over the mineral cost
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.24 10:05:00 -
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"Actually, I'd be selling them for 250k, and telling all you greedy, whining LUSERS, to:
EAT MY SHORTS"
... And if you think that'd stop people from moaning how greedy you are --since they only cost 50k to make-- you're sadly mistaken....
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.09.24 10:11:00 -
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Quote: People seem to forget that Techell's main product line is not Miner IIs. They sell ships. LOTS of ships. LOTS of BIG ships. With the price of megacyte going through the roof, I can see where a corp that produces battleships would be having problems. They need a LOT of megacyte to function, and they don't mine their own ore, so that means they buy large quantities of megacyte from miners. Unfortunately, there just isn't ENOUGH megacyte to go around lately.
So which would YOU like to see them do?
1) Raise battleship prices to account for spending 12k ISK a chunk for megacyte?
2) Slow down battleship production and therefore buy a lot less Tritanium through Zydrine?
3) Trade Miner IIs for megacyte so they can keep their ship costs down and keep production going?
I'd say #3 looks best.
Actually, consdiering they now have the EVE universe doing most of their labor mining Megacyte they get #3 and #1 comes for free.
They produce the Miner II for 40k, then trade it for 3.2M worth of minerals, which they then use to produce battleships and sell THOSE at a profit.
So now not only are they charging more for Miner IIs, but they have removed the BIGGEST cost in their ship production.
Do we see a decrease in their ship prices because they have cut an ENORMOUS chunk of their production costs? I doubt it. So they are now making MORE profit on the Miner II as well as MORE profit on their ships - all the while putting the players to work mining their minerals for them! How generous, I guess we should all bow down to Techell for doing us a service.
Compare this to most corporations who have to MINE or (gasp) purchase their Megacyte to produce ships. Techell has now used the Miner II situation to absolutely destroy anyone's ability to compete in the battleship production market.
I've said it before; I'll say it again "Mega for Miners" is total greed-driven crap. You should be ashamed for supporting Techell in this move to FAR WORSEN an already terrible situation.
Go back to accepting Isk as currency like everyone else in the universe.
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SavX
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Posted - 2003.09.24 10:27:00 -
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If techell are so good.. why did they raise their price 33% from a already stupid price. You've already back the billion you paid for the MIner II BPC. Now be nice a share.
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Orestes
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Posted - 2003.09.24 10:31:00 -
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Okay, we already got a thread about this, can we keep it to that one, please?
Thanks
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