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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.17 21:19:00 -
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I have done the tutorial many time over. However, I had never noticed in the text the reference to the SOE location at the end of one branch.
It leads to either a Storyline which seems to reward more Standing gain than normal.
Anyways, I have 2 characters one with 2.6 Corporation standing and the other (older) 1.21 .
That is enough to get level 2 missions.
It seems that the agent standings doesn't affect the mission level.
I hope to be able to reach level 3 soon and try to improve it on my new pilot.
I will try to multi-box to get extra standing.
I remember the level 4 mission paid a lot.
I will try to verify the data for the SOE branching, but I don't know if I did Epic Arc or storyline either. I'll also verify that too. http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels EVE Online Billboard News |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
770
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Posted - 2014.05.18 06:08:00 -
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The big standing gain at the end of bloodstained stars is faction.
To qualify for a mission you need a standing of:
level 1 no standing required level 2 standing1.0 or higher level 3 standing 3.0 or higher level 4 standing 5.0 or higher level 5 (there are none in highsec) standing 7.0 or higher
The standing can be with:
The corp offering the mission OR The agent offering the mission OR The faction of the corp offering the mission.
The simplest way to do it solo is run the highest level missions for that corp you are eligible for until you qualify for an even higher level.
The simplest way if you are in a corp is fleet with someone doing level IVs for the agent or corp you want. You do not need to even be in the same system, just be in fleet and get them to share standings at end.
If you are not in a player corp or have no-one willing to fleet with you there are people offering a standard service.You pay them ISK and they fleet with you and run missions for the corp you designate raising your standings. Again you do not need to actually do the mission or even be in the same system, just be in the fleet.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.05.18 20:13:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:The big standing gain at the end of bloodstained stars is faction.
To qualify for a mission you need a standing of:
level 1 no standing required level 2 standing1.0 or higher level 3 standing 3.0 or higher level 4 standing 5.0 or higher level 5 (there are none in highsec) standing 7.0 or higher
The standing can be with:
The corp offering the mission OR The agent offering the mission OR The faction of the corp offering the mission.
1. The simplest way to do it solo is run the highest level missions for that corp you are eligible for until you qualify for an even higher level.
2. The simplest way if you are in a corp is fleet with someone doing level IVs for the agent or corp you want. You do not need to even be in the same system, just be in fleet and get them to share standings at end.
3. If you are not in a player corp or have no-one willing to fleet with you there are people offering a standard service.You pay them ISK and they fleet with you and run missions for the corp you designate raising your standings. Again you do not need to actually do the mission or even be in the same system, just be in the fleet.
I didn't know about 3., if not in a player corp or have no-one willing to fleet. I never saw that service before.
As for: "The standing can be with:
The corp offering the mission OR The agent offering the mission OR The faction of the corp offering the mission. " I do have agent with higher than 2 or 1.0 standing. However, they are only level 1 agents, and won't offer level 2 missions or quests.
I am running out of time, but my standings also are on EVEboard.com . It will be easy to verify.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.21 05:29:00 -
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OK, I think you're misunderstanding how agents and standings work in this game.
There's 5 different levels of agents. You have to keep watch on your standings and when you have gained the required amount of standing to access a higher level agent, you have to research / locate a higher level agent, then travel to and speak to that agent.
There's various different ways to find available agents :
1 - Open Star Map, select ''Color Stars by'' tab, select "My Information" menu and then select "My Available Agents". Hold your mouse over any systems colored green to view the available agents along with their corporation, level, and division. This option shows all available agents.
2 - Open Corporation info window. Select the GÇ£AgentsGÇ¥ tab to view all agents within that specific Corporation. It will also show whether or not they are available to you. This option shows all agents in a specific Corporation.
3 - In-game Agent Finder can be set up to show all available agents, agents in a specific Faction, Corporation or a specific level.
Lar Tadaruwa already explained a lot about the standing required to access the different agent levels. I'd also like to mention that in order to maintain access to agents above level 1, their Faction needs to remain above -2.00 standing.
As for checking your character sheet for standings, you got the right idea, you're just looking at the wrong standing. The Agent standing you see listed in your character sheet is that agents effective standing towards you. What that means is the higher that standing is, the better they like you which translates into them offering you better missions, not higher level missions.
Each agent has a limited pool of missions available which is why you look for a higher level agent to access when the Corporation or Faction standing allows it which I've already explained above.
Faction standing will over-ride Corporation and Agent standing. Usually the Agent and Corporation standing is easier and faster to gain. However, completing Event Agent missions will quickly increase Faction standing. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Event_Agents
For access to high level agents, nobody can specify the specific amount of missions needed to complete nor the amount of standing gained due to various factors involved. These factors include:
Agent location = A difference of 0.1 in system security level from 1.0 down to 0.0 translates into a 10% increase in rewards. Agent division = Security, Mining, Distribution, R&D (Security division gives the most standing increase) Agent type = Basic, Factional Warfare, Storyline, Event (Storyline and Event Agents give Agent, Corporation and Faction standing increase) Mission type = Encounter, Mining, Courier (Encounter missions give the most standing) Standings = Higher agent standing gives increased rewards per mission Social skills = Higher level trained reduces the time spent to gain standings
These various Social skills will modify your Agent, Corporation and Faction standings. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Skills:Social
Connections skill - will raise your current positive standings with Empire. (4% per level) Criminal Connections skill - will raise your current positive standings with Pirate. (4% per level) Diplomacy skill - will lower your current negative standings with all. (4% per level) Social skill - will increase the amount of standing gained for completing missions. (5% per level) Negotiation skill - will increase mission reward and agent effective standing. (5% per level) Fast Talk skill - increases amount of Security Status gained for killing single most highest bounty Pirate NPC every 20 minutes. (5% per level)
Three different skills increase amount of Loyalty Points gained for completing missions per specific Agent Division. (5% per level) http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=909
Security Connections Distribution Connections Mining Connections
Anyway, you can quickly access high level agents. How fast depends on the factors listed above. I hope this clears up any confusion about accessing higher level agents. (Sorry for the info overload)
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.21 22:42:00 -
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For some reasons, I want more accurate details and more efficient information about the missions levels, and how to actually reach them. I know I am told that it explains how, but it doesn't and doesn't work. I will try to get more details on my end in the meantime, but I hope you realise the system will be changed before I find how. I could bet on it.
I will review the comments you placed and the previous reply and test them and point out the parts that are not working.
No critics, or bashing, just pure scientific factual method of test and errors. No research or studies required although I may indulge myself in studies depending.
TY for your post btw. At least , even if it doesn't work, it gives a good reference to test against and record the useful comparative results.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.22 05:16:00 -
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OK, I'm gonna advise you to NOT talk to Event Agents at this time. They are actually Cosmos Agents which can only be completed once in the life of your character. If you decline, fail, quit or let their mission offer expire, you could be locked out of accessing other Cosmos Agents. You'll also lose Faction and Corporation standing.
I have listed various Cosmos guides in 'The Plan'. It's a rough outline explaining how to repair negative Faction standings.
Since you've already spoken to a couple of them, best to complete their mini mission series asap. After that DO NOT talk to any other Event Agents till you fully understand how standings and gaining access to agents actually works.
Now to advance to a higher level agent, look in the Standings section of your character sheet for the highest Corporation listed and open up the Corporation info box, select 'Agents' tab and then travel to the highest agent available.
Keep watch on the Corporation standing and when it reaches the next standing amount for access, open the Corporation info box and once again select the highest agent available.
Agent Level = Standing Required (Corporation or Faction) Level 1 = N/A Level 2 = +1.00 Level 3 = +3.00 Level 4 = +5.00 Level 5 = +7.00
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2014.05.22 14:48:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:... Since you've already spoken to a couple of them, best to complete their mini mission series asap. After that DO NOT talk to any other Event Agents till you fully understand how standings and gaining access to agents actually works. I didn't comlpete it because I didn't have the time, and I don't think I wil have the time to.
DeMichael Crimson wrote:...Now to advance to a higher level agent, look in the Standings section of your character sheet for the highest Corporation listed and open up the Corporation info box, select 'Agents' tab and then travel to the highest agent available.
I remember trying to do that before and I don't think it would work like that on my end. It may be close to that, granted, but there seem to be a missing detail. I would prefer to bring some more accuracy to it so to avoid potential confusion, failure, and other problems.
1. Is a link to the Sisters of EVE corporation, on Dotlan.org. It has a list of Event Agents, Generic Storyline Mission and more. It seems useful to get those mission level 3 and get more income.
2. Is a screenshot of a Level 2 Federal Navy Academy (a Gallente tutorial starter NPC corporation) mission. The agent is level II Distribution agent and the effective standing shows as 2.2
3. Is a screenshot of the agent in the System Essence, with no level 2 available. Only level 1.
4. Is a screenshot of the agent in the System Scolluzer, with level 2 available. Not only level 1. The Map choices are, in "My Information", Available agents, or Agents available to me.
5. Notice that I then change to my other pilot, Multi-client. This screenshot shows a rare Cosmic Anomaly with : Small Hedbergite, Hemorphite and Jaspet (Deposits)... While going to Arnon, the SEO Epic Arc system.
6. This screenshot shows the ship fitting, and no NPC Pirate in the Anomaly.
7. This screenshot is the same system and Anomaly, with 3 visitors. Notice also the fitting is changed to mine with 3 Miners. Too bad the imgur system doesn't display the screenshot times to compare.
8. This screenshot shows mining the Anomaly with the visitor gone. They left me the loot more than once. Thank you indeed. I'll try to make up for it in the near future.
9. This screeshot shows a Pilot Standings, first Corporations top Standings: (a) Federal Navy Academy 2.52 (Connections 1 raises your effective standing from 2.21) (Good) (Notice that this is 50% over the 2.n something I used to have before reaching 3.0, required for level 3s.) (b) Sisters of EVE 1.16 (Connections 1 raises your effective standing from 0.80) (Good) (Notice that this is now over the 1.0 required to get the level 2 missions from any SOE NPC corp agents. Finally!!!) The more agents from more corporation the merrier, as it can help to reduce travel distance to reach a worthwhile agent.
10. This is a screenshot of a level 2 mission from a level 2 "Security" agent in Quier. Notice that it is not a storyline agent or other and therefore may not give extra faction or corp standings gain. There is also an incursion which I have little chance to succeed solo.
11. Same as 10 with mission text unobstructed. The mission offer does pay more than the previous #2. screenshot Distribution offer above.
12. This link #12 has the previous 10 screenshots above organized by the imgur data storage system. They can be accessed this way instead of as previously.
13. This link is as #1. above, except that instead of being for the SOE corp. it is for the University of Caille Corp. All Distribution. 1 Generic Storyline...
14. Described above. That one didn't matter since he had no offer.
15. This link #15 has the following 7 screenshots below organized by the imgur data storage system. They can be accessed this way instead of as will follow. (Yeah, and I will include that this is the reason why I displayed them differently, so they can be accessed with more ease.)
16. This screenshot is just a search for the Event Agent name as I couldn't find it. I didn't realise that he was in space at this point.
17. This screenshot is near the Event Agents. I changed to the Venture ship as it had a bigger Ore hold but too late. (It warps faster at 5.25 AU, 5.5 AU or something)
18. Same thing as #17., just targeting differently.
19. Event Agent Ships targeting (for nothing).
20. This screenshot shows an Event Agent for Distribution with I don't know which Corporation.
21. This screenshot, offers a serie of 4 mission, which I think are level 2. I'd have to verify as it may not be.
22. This screenshot, shows the Event Agent Corporation data, accessed from the (i) information icon on the mission page. It is from the University of Caille. The data also shows the agent as being level 1, not 2.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
795
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Posted - 2014.05.22 23:21:00 -
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Important points to remember:
1. The "Effective Standing" displayed for an agent is the highest from agent/corp/faction . If you have never spoken to an agent before what appears here is probably your corp standing not the agents real standing.
2. Letting an offered mission expire has a bad effect on standings. If you cannot do a mission decline it. However do not decline more than one mission every 4 hours.
3. Avoid missions that kill other factions.
4. Distribution missions are the worst missions for standing increase. Mining missions and Security missions are both much better.
5. If you are attempting to grind standings blitz the missions and ignore loot. Look up EVE Survival to find blitz options where yu can avoid killing all the NPC and complete the mission early.
6. To be offered a mission you usually need to be at that agents station or ship in space,you can talk to them from elsewhere but usually you need to be at the agents location to accept an offer.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
26439
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:47:00 -
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OK, I understand the descriptions matching the number text lines in the previous post. There's actually no need to post / link that many.
Like I said before, asap complete the Event (Cosmos) Agent missions that are already offered to you and then don't access any other Event Agent.
REMEMBER - DO NOT DECLINE, QUIT, FAIL OR LET THOSE MISSION OFFERS EXPIRE. It may lock out access to other Event (Cosmos) Agents.
All Storyline Agents serve all levels. They will be listed as level 1 but they don't actually have a level at all. The level of their Storyline mission offer is the same level as the 16 missions previously completed.
Complete 16 level 1 missions, get a level 1 storyline offer. Complete 16 level 2 missions, get a level 2 Storyline offer. Complete 16 level 3 missions, get a level 3 Storyline offer. Complete 16 level 4 missions, get a level 4 Storyline offer. Complete 16 level 5 missions, get a level 5 Storyline offer.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
795
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Posted - 2014.05.23 12:43:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote: Complete 16 level 5 missions, get a level 5 Storyline offer.
DMC
I wish :D
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.24 03:21:00 -
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I just finished working 16 hours today and I am tired.
The reason I posted the screenshots was because they are related to the subjects.
I will be posting more about them later.
I will try to complete the mission you mentioned, but I really don't have the time or money for that.
(Edit::
Actually, I might not be able to. It might not be worth it for me. I might not need to do COSMOS missions.
I don't need to do COSMOS mission to get level 3 missions.)
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.24 04:18:00 -
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Well, completing missions for Event Agents will increase your Faction standing.
Anyway, good luck to you.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.24 04:21:00 -
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ty, I'm concerned about getting to Mission 3, and then of course 4. I don't think I can do COSMOS mission as they are too hard for me. I think the main storyline of SOE still holds the best chance in the least missions to reach level 3 for me.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.24 22:05:00 -
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Train the following skills:
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.24 22:22:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Train the following skills:
Social Connections You are the one that makes the most sense in regards to my condition.
I have Social and Connections and Fast Talk and Negotiation
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.25 04:56:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Train the following skills:
Social Connections You are the one that makes the most sense in regards to my condition.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:46:00 -
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Contraband Confiscation From: Gallente Federation Sent: 2014.05.24 20:30
Empire: Gallente Federation Solar System: Tourier System Security Level: 0.9
Found Contraband:
Slaves, Qty: 10 Standing Penalty: 0.30 Fine: 60,000.00 ISK Response: Confiscation
Total Standing Penalties (ideally): 0.30 Total Standing Penalties (actual): 0.06 Total Fines: 60,000.00 ISK Summary Response: Confiscation
Edit: @ 12:47 btw, those Slaves (10) were safely transporter through the gate.
- - - - Heretics have built a new gate in Domain.
- - - - Factions = Gallente Federation 1.19 (Connections 2 raises your effective standing from 0.43) (Good) instead of, Gallente Federation 1.4n+? (Connections 2 raises your effective standing from 0.73) (Good)
Now after and less than: Servant Sisters of EVE 1.39 (Connections 2 raises your effective standing from 0.69) (Good)
Though: Corporations Federal Navy Academy 2.84 (Connections 2 raises your effective standing from 2.21) (Good) (very close to fulfilling the missions level 3 requirements , and being able to get a response from the level 3 mission Federal Navy Academy agents...) Sisters of EVE 1.61 (Connections 2 raises your effective standing from 0.88) (Good)
2. Other Factions and Corporations at level 2 are: Factions: ORE 1.19 (from 0.40) and The Interbus 1.02 (from 0.24)
(... skill training complete, 2014.05.25 12:20 Connections, Level 3)
3. Updated Standings: Factions Servant Sisters of EVE 1.76 (Connections 3 raises your effective standing from 0.64) (Good) Gallente Federation 1.57 (Connections 3 raises your effective standing from 0.43) (Good) ... [instead of, Gallente Federation 1.8n+? (Connections 3 raises your effective standing from 0.73) (Good)]
Though: Corporations Federal Navy Academy 3.15 (Connections 3 raises your effective standing from 2.21) (Good) (very close to fulfilling the missions level 3 requirements , and being able to get a response from the level 3 mission Federal Navy Academy agents... And actually being able to fulfill the requirements and going to test ASAP now!!!) Sisters of EVE 1.98 (Connections 3 raises your effective standing from 0.88) (Good)
4. Other Factions and Corporations at mission level 2 are: Factions: ORE 1.55 (from 0.40) and The Interbus 1.41 (from 0.24) The Society of Concious Thought 1.32 (Connections 3 raises your effective standing from 0.14) (Good) Jove Empire 1.20 (from 0.00) (Good)
Corporations: Krusual Tribe 1.68 (from 0.54) (Good) Ammatar Consulate 1.56 (from 0.41) Hyasyoda Corporation 1.45 (from 0.29) CreoDron 1.44 (from 0.28) Outer Ring Excavations 1.33 (from 0.15) Brutor Tribe 1.32 (from 0.14) Theology Council 1.32 (from 0.14) Astral Mining Inc. 1.28 (from 0.09) Roden Shipyards 1.28 (from 0.09) Bank of Luminaire 1.23 (from 0.04) Federation Navy 1.22 (from 0.02) Federation Customs 1.21 (from 0.01)
Agents: Saissore Evavarin , Astral Mining , 1.67 (Connections 3 raises your effective standing from 0.54) (Good) Reyrolauston Gauloleur , Federal Navy Academy , 1.50 (from 0.34) Rounedent Enegute , Roden Shipyards , 1.49 (from 0.33) Dosson Amailly , SOE , 1.46 (from 0.29)
I switched my skill training to Social V, at 4d 15h + mins secs, since it gives the most bonus at 5% to NPC, corp and factions. "Skill at social interaction. 5% bonus per level to NPC agent, corporation and faction standing increase." ... this may be the actual standing and not the effective standing, although I am not sure.
Then will be Connections IV and V, currently at 2d 11h + mins secs "Skill at interacting with friendly NPCs. 4% Modifier to effective standing from friendly NPC Corporations and Factions per level. Not cumulative with Diplomacy or Criminal Connections." ... which will be for effective standings, although it works to get the level 3 missions, and hopefully level 4 by then.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.26 20:33:00 -
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I am reviewing a list of screenshots that I will be able to add to the ongoing project called "EVE Mission" .
Unauthorized Military Presence - (Angel Cartel) Level 2
from the : https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Missions
Level 2 link... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Level_2
(I had to save the Category:Missions link in my email because I couldn't find that link again otherwise.)
A screenshot of 15 green Serpentis Anomalies in a system dated yesterday found while doing missions with the Scanner on.
I have to find and verify Corporation like SOE that have security missions and Storyline branches other than Distribution. It might be better than nothing and be viable for LP but it is probably lower for standings. The University of Caille and Navy Federation Academy mostly offer Distribution only missions.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.29 01:12:00 -
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I just tried Stop the Thief, and the thief is not there. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Stop_the_Thief_Level_2
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Jabalu Habalu
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.29 05:11:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote: +8 standing in 1 weekend?
This requires the following preparation:
1. Social skills already trained - Minimum: Social V, Diplomacy V (the latter being most important, you'll need to travel in space where you standing is dropping fast and you cannot afford for it to go -5 where the navy will start to harass you).
2. Hauler, fast frigate, epic-arc capable missions ship (or alts who can do any of that for you).
3. COSMOS mission kits or collecting the required materials ahead of time piece by piece.
4. For best results have a wingman helping you with the epic arcs and/or FW missions and plexing (your choice, the former is faster)
General outline of the weekend:
1. Position your ships and assets for datacenter and cosmos missions, note the stations ahead of time and stock them. You don't want to fail because you don't get a second shot.
2. Run the above for one faction until you cannot progress for lack of standing then do their allied faction (eg. Caldari and Amarr).
3. Once done with the other allied faction, return and finish the first.
4. Run epic arcs for both of those factions either yourself or with a friend to do the killing.
5. Join FW with one of the above allied factions, begin grinding FW ranks for the one-time standing boost.
6. Once all one-time standing events above are exhausted, begin grinding level 3 or 4 missions for the corporations you like in those factions to taste.
Best case scenario, following all of the above with a good pace, you can grind from 0 to about 8.5 faction standing with the Caldari or Amarr (the only two I've done this with, I assume the mirror is true of gallente and minmatar) and around 6-7 standing with various corporations in those factions, caldari navy comes out around 6.0 iirc.
The grind from 8.5 caldari and 6.0 caldari navy to 10.0 caldari and 10.0 caldari navy takes around three or so weeks of hard-nosed mission grinding at a non-deranged pace. I've seen it done faster, but I would put a 10/10 done in less than that time into bedpan territory.
Finally, it should be noted that the cost (assuming your friend's help is free or if you already have alts for the job) above is not insubstantial. Buying all the tags and mats out-right will set you back quite a bit, if you number your isk in millions, you probably can't afford it all and should go for the slow and steady rout of FW plex farming followed by mission grinding. The simplest such method being hanging around FW plex in a warp stabbed frigate for rank, then turning that faction standing into a jumping off point from which to run easy-peasy distribution mission for your corp of choice. This method of course, takes much more time, but will get you high standings for essentially no cost.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.29 14:11:00 -
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Jabalu Habalu wrote:4. Run epic arcs for both of those factions either yourself or with a friend to do the killing. How can you do that?
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Epic_mission_arcs#Epic_Arc_Starting_Agents
The only 1 Epic Arc from the Sisters Of Eve an be started as level 1. The Empire Factions Epic mission Arcs require level 4 each. I have reached level 2 for Gallente but there are 2 more levels to go.
I am working on doing more security missions. I will try to test Storyline ones but they seem to be only Distribution missions to verify if it is faster.
I will also try to verify the exact rate difference and avoid inexactitude (or misleading, in fact).
The Pirates faction Epic mission Arcs require level 3.
As for running this with a friend, I unfortunately have to run this myself multi-client.
I currently use a Dominix with Medium Railguns (just finished training Medium Hybrid Turret / Rank 3 / Level: 3 / SP: 24,000 of 135,765, to upgrade to Large Railguns. I still need Gunnery V in around 4 days) Heavy Drones and Afterburner + a Navitas or Algos.
So the more new programs and new updates are running on the client, the more complicated it gets, period. So much so that It now makes it worthless in fact, and PLEX to Bazaar profit ratio still 100%+ better.
2. I've already reached level 3 mission for the Gallente, Federal Navy Academy, and they are not worth it. I'm lucky to get 1 million for some mission, which normally takes 15 mins to 30 mins each, if not 1 hour. The bonus normally is around 150k which is not enough to buy a ship or pay for insurance. My money is again better invested into PLEX to Bazaar ratio. Even at a 300% exponential curve gain at level 4, it wouldn't cut it.
And the millions estimate are from loot value, which takes time, even with a Moblie Tractor Unit (MTU). Most loot missions are worth less than that at level 3 and some around 100k only. (That does not include the hauling costs, time, and trader costs and time. Further increasing the value of Bazaar Trading over other activities depending on the conditions...)
3. I will omit the amount of times arguments are being presented to try to negate and discredit the more exact and appropriate scientific fact and calculations for Bazaar Trading.
I will also omit the fact that it would be or could be a blatant scam, fraud, etc...
But it is easy to see the exact correlation directly increasing the costs with the exact same ratio of loss in comparison.
The more I test and pay to invest into this, the more I lose compared to the small profit I would get from Bazaar. The reason the profit is getting smaller, and attempted to be made smaller is purely competitive. I can still make more profit in Bazaar, if not 10,000% more, despite the intentions to the contrary. I simply transpose those attempts and intention directly into it to benefit from them retroactively.
Granted, it may cost a bit of investigative work, but it's nothing my Bounty Hunter couldn't do.
4. Let's say I were to try to claim the above 3. as false myself, even though I am not, I could still benefit from it.
It would however diminish the value of the profit gained and the value of the potential profit although not the actual potential profit. It is more of an evaluative thing or decision than a factual, scientific one. I use trial and error to arrive to conclusions.
5. The only time I did FW solo, I got destroyed by enemy troops (non- NPCs and NPCs, drones or not) spying on me. It again did not make it worth it for me to pursue, except for the fact that I got to collect data on them. They still got the loot from my destroyed ships and/or destroyed implants.
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Jabalu Habalu
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.29 16:24:00 -
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What is the purpose of this thread? Go to the store and buy a journal if all you want is to catalog your personal mission running data.
Or make a blog.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.29 16:46:00 -
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Your data is not much use to me.
Message not sent because the recipient(s) 'jabalu habalu' was not found. Autism. I don't have autism.
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Lar Tadaruwa
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Posted - 2014.05.30 11:13:00 -
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Don't do like me and accept the Mission report to Gallente Commander (*opening the mission screenshot because the name doesn't show once accepted. on top of refusing to be opening the Journal data)
(I just saved it and the screenshot was deliberately removed without my control.) (Searching online for the mission name that is not showing...)
(Maybe : Next Mission: Mission 47: The Missing Link... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Chasing_Shadows)
right during the Server shutdown...
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.02 19:24:00 -
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I now reached level 3.
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.06.02 19:50:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:I now reached level 3.
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Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.02 20:50:00 -
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16.4 m first mission loot with salvage and rewards + bonus 1100 LP. Enough for free implants upgrade to +2 , then +3 to level 4.
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.06.02 22:15:00 -
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Free blogs are over there.
Or did you actually have a question about missions? |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.02 22:43:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:... did you ... have a question about missions? I asked and it took about 3 weeks to sort it out.
My second mission only paid 100k ISK + rewards but my standing now is 3.34. I need only 1.66 to get a level 4 mission. I am afraid I will need a better ship to succeed. We used to do level 4 or 5 missions with 10 or 20 people.
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