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DrunkenNinja
Men Of Mayham
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:35:00 -
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I knew Goons scammed people... but this is something else XD www.goonfleet.net In the recruitment channel, type something like "Australian active pilot looking for pvp corp!" (etc) and you may well be approached by a Goon.... who will give you this link :P. After looking at your API key he will determine a security deposit that is "fair" (for me it was 30 mil, about a third of what I had in my wallet at the time) and give you a sponsorship key. You heard me, a sponsorship key. Goonfleet actually endorse this behaviour to the point that they made a phony website for more efficient scamming. GG WP.
Wait, 30 mil, you ask? Why would Goons talk to you for an extended period of time just to get 30 mil?
It seems not only do Goons conduct the big, well known "500 mil security deposit, we promise we'll give it right back!" scams, they also enjoy targeting noobs . I was lucky I only lost 30 mil.
This may seem obvious to some, but don't give ISK to join Goonswarm (or any other corp really), no matter how nice they seem or how legit their websites look =) |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
317
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:37:00 -
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Hello, "DrunkenNinja" I am an official goonswarm federation recruitment agent and an officer of the spacelaw. This website is indeed legit. What problem did you have on attempting to join? |
Zions Child
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
118
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:45:00 -
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You do know that they do sponsorships into Goonfleet as well, right? There is nothing on that site which is illegitimate, the thing is, you don't have to pay a fee to become a Goon. The scam was him asking you for money. Otherwise, everything else is 100% true. |
DrunkenNinja
Men Of Mayham
0
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Posted - 2011.11.16 22:59:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Hello, "DrunkenNinja" I am an official goonswarm federation recruitment agent and an officer of the spacelaw. This website is indeed legit. What problem did you have on attempting to join?
The problem, "official goonswarm federation recruitment agent" is that I got scammed, plain and simple. But hey, it wasn't much money, im not really mad about it. I see you guys trying to cover this up in the forums with your "nice posts" all the time. 0/10, try being less obvious next time. The point of this thread is, as the Goonswarm wiki itself says: Don't give ISK to join Goonwaffe, it's a scam |
Jak'rat
Lion Investments
5
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Posted - 2011.11.16 23:01:00 -
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Scamming players via the recruitment channel? Using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam?
Now where did that GD threadnaught go.... "Full turret rack all grouped, gyro's, rigs - that's not a ship, it's a flying shotgun..." |
SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
211
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Posted - 2011.11.16 23:07:00 -
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Oh wait, Goonswarm just scammed 30M off a guy's pocket ?
QUICK, MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT
Seriously
Peoples just don't know how to read/google. Type Goonswarm scam in google, I'm sure you'll find hundreds of links. Or ask a random guy about Goonswarm. He'll tell you what GSF is to pubbies (Even though we're nice guys and all, like, gentlemens). |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
100
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Posted - 2011.11.16 23:12:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:Oh wait, Goonswarm just scammed 30M off a guy's pocket ?
QUICK, MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT Hey with plex prices as they are 30M of some other fools isk in your wallet is better than nothing. Black Man with Goggles |
Crias Taylor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2011.11.16 23:38:00 -
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Confirming I'm a nice guy. |
Hero Tackler
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2011.11.16 23:42:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:I knew Goons scammed people... but this is something else XD www.goonfleet.netIn the recruitment channel, type something like "Australian active pilot looking for pvp corp!" (etc) and you may well be approached by a Goon.... who will give you this link :P. After looking at your API key he will determine a security deposit that is "fair" (for me it was 30 mil, about a third of what I had in my wallet at the time) and give you a sponsorship key. You heard me, a sponsorship key. Goonfleet actually endorse this behaviour to the point that they made a phony website for more efficient scamming. GG WP. Wait, 30 mil, you ask? Why would Goons talk to you for an extended period of time just to get 30 mil? It seems not only do Goons conduct the big, well known "500 mil security deposit, we promise we'll give it right back!" scams, they also enjoy targeting noobs . I was lucky I only lost 30 mil. This may seem obvious to some, but don't give ISK to join Goonswarm (or any other corp really), no matter how nice they seem or how legit their websites look =)
Scamming people in game, ok fine because internet spaceships are serious business right? But using an autonomous website out of game to scam people for whatever, there may be real world legal issues here. I shall investigate and see if we can bring a class-action lawsuit against the Goonswarm Federation and CCP for facilitating this real world scam through their ingame channels. |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
134
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Posted - 2011.11.16 23:51:00 -
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If I was the Goonwaffe webmaster I'd switch the legit site and the scam site around every month or so.
That way, google and forum searches would give contradictory ''SCAM!'' ''Not a scam!'' responses. I live, I post, I slay. I am content. |
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Crias Taylor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:12:00 -
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Good thing I moved my isk assets into bitcoins. Good luck getting judgement money out of me. |
Hero Tackler
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:18:00 -
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Crias Taylor wrote:Good thing I moved my isk assets into bitcoins. Good luck getting judgement money out of me.
I don't think anyone is concerned about isk or bitcoins, you can roleplay a scammer all you want in game, but in the real world, scammers get... you know, investigated and arrested and stuff. You guys are the ones who took it out of game with the Goonfleet site. |
BringerMC
The Ghost Division
0
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:35:00 -
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Crias Taylor wrote:Good thing I moved my isk assets into bitcoins. Good luck getting judgement money out of me.
No; if you were behind it they would seize all your assets including your bitcoins and throw you in jail. Conartists and Scammers get more jail time than pedophiles; weird but true. |
Azelor Delaria
Error-404
80
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:38:00 -
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Crias Taylor wrote:Good thing I moved my isk assets into bitcoins. Good luck getting judgement money out of me.
Hypothetically, even if you did that and the government still had a judgment against you, they'd go after your property.
Including your BitCoins.
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Crias Taylor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:41:00 -
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I buried my bitcoin bullion. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:56:00 -
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Hero Tackler wrote:Scamming people in game, ok fine because internet spaceships are serious business right? But using an autonomous website out of game to scam people for whatever, there may be real world legal issues here. I shall investigate and see if we can bring a class-action lawsuit against the Goonswarm Federation and CCP for facilitating this real world scam through their ingame channels. Progress- Here we go, looks like it's an FBI issue http://www.ic3.gov/crimeschemes.aspxLooks like there's some real world implications here since isk has an actual dollar value by virtue of PLEX, I think CCP should promptly disband Goonswarm and ban whoever approved this to protect themselves from any liability. At least you can report the website and Alexander Gianturco, who presents himself as the leader of Goonfleet/ Goonswarm http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-09-eurogamer-interviews-the-eve-council-chairman-interview to the FBI (internet crimes division) and the website scam will be investigated/ shutdown if they promise things and do not deliver on services/ goods (scam). ahahahahahahaha this guy is awesome, never stop posting |
Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation
115
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:57:00 -
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A: Everyone knows this.
B: Its now considered an petetiionable offense to scam in recruitment channel. so he should petition. |
SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
211
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:57:00 -
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The use a website claiming that we will give you back your 500 million spacegold because you gave it to us in the first place as a recruitment fee isn't illegal.
Also, ingame money doesn't have any real world value, because you can't convert ISK to dollars (You can convert dollars to ISKs though).
And, I should sue you for wasting 5mns of my life that I spent reading this ridiculous "real world scam".
Oh, and Mittens is a lawyer actually. I think he knows how real world legal issues work.
So feel free to investigate about how peoples give us money just because we said we will give it back. It's called "misplacing your trust". I can do the same in real life without any kind of troubles. Why ? You didn't sign any kind of contract. Everything you give to me, I'll consider it a donation, and since no contracts have been signed by you, I can do whatever the fsck I feel like doing.
No contracts between you and me => No obligation for me. Simple as that.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1621
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Posted - 2011.11.17 00:58:00 -
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as crias taylor's space lawyer i demand you cease these slanderous allegations immediately |
Tamiya Sarossa
Hedion University Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2011.11.17 01:25:00 -
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Please tell me that everyone who makes these threads is a goon alt so I can mantain my dwindiling faith in humanity. |
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Jitas Prostitute
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2011.11.17 01:50:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:I knew Goons scammed people... but this is something else XD www.goonfleet.netIn the recruitment channel, type something like "Australian active pilot looking for pvp corp!" (etc) and you may well be approached by a Goon.... who will give you this link :P. After looking at your API key he will determine a security deposit that is "fair" (for me it was 30 mil, about a third of what I had in my wallet at the time) and give you a sponsorship key. You heard me, a sponsorship key. Goonfleet actually endorse this behaviour to the point that they made a phony website for more efficient scamming. GG WP. Wait, 30 mil, you ask? Why would Goons talk to you for an extended period of time just to get 30 mil? It seems not only do Goons conduct the big, well known "500 mil security deposit, we promise we'll give it right back!" scams, they also enjoy targeting noobs . I was lucky I only lost 30 mil. This may seem obvious to some, but don't give ISK to join Goonswarm (or any other corp really), no matter how nice they seem or how legit their websites look =)
I feel for you, I really do.
If you want to join my corp, we aren't as exclusive of a club as the goons but I'll put a good word in for 50m I always have Sun Tzu and General Patton quotes close by when I PvP in this internet spaceship video game, eve online. |
Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
168
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Posted - 2011.11.17 02:04:00 -
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Oh look it's this thread again |
Venus Vermillion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
319
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Posted - 2011.11.17 02:32:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:I knew Goons scammed people... but this is something else XD www.goonfleet.netIn the recruitment channel, type something like "Australian active pilot looking for pvp corp!" (etc) and you may well be approached by a Goon.... who will give you this link :P. After looking at your API key he will determine a security deposit that is "fair" (for me it was 30 mil, about a third of what I had in my wallet at the time) and give you a sponsorship key. You heard me, a sponsorship key. Goonfleet actually endorse this behaviour to the point that they made a phony website for more efficient scamming. GG WP. Wait, 30 mil, you ask? Why would Goons talk to you for an extended period of time just to get 30 mil? It seems not only do Goons conduct the big, well known "500 mil security deposit, we promise we'll give it right back!" scams, they also enjoy targeting noobs . I was lucky I only lost 30 mil. This may seem obvious to some, but don't give ISK to join Goonswarm (or any other corp really), no matter how nice they seem or how legit their websites look =)
Prencleeve? Is that you?
I wondered when you'd come back to us!
Its not a scam... its that you lied to us. You had history on your accounts of red alliances when you knew that that would cause us to keep your money. Spies get what they deserve in the end, spy. |
Hero Tackler
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2011.11.17 03:06:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:The use a website claiming that we will give you back your 500 million spacegold because you gave it to us in the first place as a recruitment fee isn't illegal.
Also, ingame money doesn't have any real world value, because you can't convert ISK to dollars (You can convert dollars to ISKs though).
And, I should sue you for wasting 5mns of my life that I spent reading this ridiculous "real world scam".
Oh, and Mittens is a lawyer actually. I think he knows how real world legal issues work.
So feel free to investigate about how peoples give us money just because we said we will give it back. It's called "misplacing your trust". I can do the same in real life without any kind of troubles. Why ? You didn't sign any kind of contract. Everything you give to me, I'll consider it a donation, and since no contracts have been signed by you, I can do whatever the fsck I feel like doing.
No contracts between you and me => No obligation for me. Simple as that.
So by applying your own logic- I could mirror CCP's eveonline.com site and intercept mad info's to use for my own benefit because I have no contract between you and me. Rgr. Ask Mittens about the legality of that. Also- you and your friends are very familiar with converting isk to dollars, isn't that what you viciously slander and accuse our Russian comrades of doing repeatedly? More meta than you |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4417
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Posted - 2011.11.17 03:37:00 -
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So by applying your own logic- I could do a completely different thing and get away with it, right? Stop begging the question and learn some rhetoric. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
143
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Posted - 2011.11.17 03:51:00 -
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I doubt I'll ever get sick of spacelawyers and their spacelawyering.
Pure gold. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4417
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Posted - 2011.11.17 03:53:00 -
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Not quite as fun as every E-2 fresh out of Navy boot camp trying to be a sealawyer. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |
Venus Rinah
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.11.17 04:08:00 -
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I was scammed to the tune of 5,000 bil using this technique (honest), and I had spent a lot of time selling lots of plex recently to a lot of interested people to do it. I was so interested in becoming a fuzzy bee and making honey also ...
*crocdiles tears*
I don't know what to think of these Goon's now?
*breaks down in tears*
How will I feed the children now? *blub* |
Hero Tackler
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2011.11.17 04:26:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:So by applying your own logic- I could do a completely different thing and get away with it, right? Stop begging the question and learn some rhetoric.
Sky Captain of My Heart why so serious!?! Look, my own 2 char spies amongst the worker bees let me know that these things are sore subjects amongst the, uh, worker bees. A lot of us feel like we are becoming BoB 2.0 and are helpless bystanders witnessing the decline of the swarm. We signed up to fight great wars in 0.0, not be blue to everyone within 50 jumps and play kiddie games with miners. More meta than you |
Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
182
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Posted - 2011.11.17 04:28:00 -
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I object to this thread, the noble Goonwaffe is a long established organization filled with an abundance of e-honoure and I will not tolerate this sullying of our fine name! We don't tolerate scams, and for a small convenience fee of 100 million isk I will personally solve this issue. |
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