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Manar Detri
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.19 14:42:00 -
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Jacada Ansari wrote: I don't think you quite understand the divide between real life and eve, your grasp on the law also seems rather questionable. Maybe you should stop trying to move your internet space ships into the realms of real life and just stick to mining or whatever you do for fun.
This is where you fail, internetz is in the real world :P things inside eve not.
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Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
20
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Posted - 2011.11.19 15:41:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:Oh, and Mittens is a lawyer actually. I think he knows how real world legal issues work.
I'm a lawyer as well. I can confirm that there are plenty of lawyers out there who are clueless idiots. It's kind of embarassing for the profession to see it sometimes. Hell, you should see the grammar mistakes I see in legal papers sometimes. I don't know him, but I wouldn't make the assumption he knows anythying, particularly anything beyond whatever practice area he works in. Seems he spends much more time playing at internet spaceships than reviewing precedent and so forth. |
Alita Ishtal
Imperium Ad Infinitum
0
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Posted - 2011.11.19 16:32:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:[quote=Azelor Delaria]
This is phishing. Mirror a commercial website in order to fool users is indeed a crime. We didn't mirror anything though. We created (Well, not me ofc, the mighty tech guy) this fine scam-machine, and it works just fine.
There is no real life issue. For the small fee of 15$/month, you're exposing yourself to being bullied/scammed, deal with it.
AND, it's not like peoples don't already know what GSF is.
Before i go on,If SM00 w/e was in my corp/alliance telling the truth about all our secrets i would kick his ass just after wasting his ratting super.
You sir have just crushed all the thoughts i had that the goons wer not scamming and all the slander was just to tarnish the goons good name.Im not sure if i can ever look a goon in the face again without thinking he is trying to scam me out of my mother.Needless to say though.Now that everyone knows the goons really do scam im sure people will stop falling for it *sarcasm*
A sad day in the life of gamming this is.Next people will tell me St.Patrick wasnt real and didnt drink enormous amounts of alcohol. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4596
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Posted - 2011.11.19 17:31:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:SMT008 wrote:Oh, and Mittens is a lawyer actually. I think he knows how real world legal issues work.
I'm a lawyer as well. I can confirm that there are plenty of lawyers out there who are clueless idiots. It's kind of embarassing for the profession to see it sometimes. Hell, you should see the grammar mistakes I see in legal papers sometimes. I don't know him, but I wouldn't make the assumption he knows anythying, particularly anything beyond whatever practice area he works in. Seems he spends much more time playing at internet spaceships than reviewing precedent and so forth. I would certainly hope so, seeing as how he is retired. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
160
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Posted - 2011.11.19 19:14:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Jamradar wrote:I swear, goons can make a thread on how awesome they're scamming people every hour, along with having a someone spamming "we will scam you for 500 mil for joining us" in every single local, and take out airship ads around the world on their deeds.
And people will still try and join with their security deposit.. I may have heard a hilarious tale of someone with "SCAMMER: DO NOT TRUST" as his in-game title managing to still scam billions per week out of people. well I have an alt called Shoot Blues McAwoxie420 (or something close) in a corp awoxing their barges so yeah, |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
160
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Posted - 2011.11.19 19:18:00 -
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Alita Ishtal wrote:SMT008 wrote:[quote=Azelor Delaria]
This is phishing. Mirror a commercial website in order to fool users is indeed a crime. We didn't mirror anything though. We created (Well, not me ofc, the mighty tech guy) this fine scam-machine, and it works just fine.
There is no real life issue. For the small fee of 15$/month, you're exposing yourself to being bullied/scammed, deal with it.
AND, it's not like peoples don't already know what GSF is. Before i go on,If SM00 w/e was in my corp/alliance telling the truth about all our secrets i would kick his ass just after wasting his ratting super. You sir have just crushed all the thoughts i had that the goons wer not scamming and all the slander was just to tarnish the goons good name.Im not sure if i can ever look a goon in the face again without thinking he is trying to scam me out of my mother.Needless to say though.Now that everyone knows the goons really do scam im sure people will stop falling for it *sarcasm* A sad day in the life of gamming this is.Next people will tell me St.Patrick wasnt real and didnt drink enormous amounts of alcohol. I would laugh at this but Poe's Law. |
Alita Ishtal
Imperium Ad Infinitum
0
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Posted - 2011.11.19 23:25:00 -
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Any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from a genuine kook.^ |
Mohr Cowbell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
172
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Posted - 2011.11.20 00:10:00 -
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That candy was delicious, TBH. |
Ginia Itonula
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.20 10:57:00 -
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This is the best thread ever. We have serious business types, e-lawyers, and Lyris. Only way it could get better is if one of the guys was revealed to have stalked Mittens, and one of the e-lawyers was revealed to be a McDonalds Assistant Manager. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4664
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Posted - 2011.11.20 11:39:00 -
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Ginia Itonula wrote:This is the best thread ever. We have serious business types, e-lawyers, and Lyris. Only way it could get better is if one of the guys was revealed to have stalked Mittens, and one of the e-lawyers was revealed to be a McDonalds Assistant Manager. Those are some very attractive goggles you're wearing. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |
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Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
20
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Posted - 2011.11.20 13:40:00 -
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[quote=Lyris Nairn I would certainly hope so, seeing as how he is retired.[/quote]
I smell a bromance |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4702
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Posted - 2011.11.21 05:52:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote: I would certainly hope so, seeing as how he is retired.
I smell a bromance I'm not nearly important enough. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2011.11.21 07:54:00 -
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So, why haven't we been sued yet for Gé¼1.2 or whatever it is 30m isk is in real money?
That is, if you could legally turn 30m isk into a real currency. |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
39
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Posted - 2011.11.22 00:58:00 -
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lol Goons don't scam people. That is just a myth perpetuated by the gullible.
They are performing a public service.
They highlight people's naivety and gullibility for a very small fee, thus showing them the error of their ways.
I fully endorse/support this service.
Whilst on this subject, when can I get my joining deposit back? I was told my 20bil would be returned witnin a 'few days' about a year ago. And do I get interest? |
Ray Tucker
Avalon Guards Gypsy Band
0
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Posted - 2011.11.22 07:48:00 -
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Smiling Menace wrote:lol Goons don't scam people. That is just a myth perpetuated by the gullible.
They are performing a public service.
They highlight people's naivety and gullibility for a very small fee, thus showing them the error of their ways.
I fully endorse/support this service.
It says "If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck." in big red letters on the page explaining how to join GoonWaffe. It was there for years, yet the flow of fools willing to part with their isks never stops |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1700
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:31:00 -
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Ray Tucker wrote:Smiling Menace wrote:lol Goons don't scam people. That is just a myth perpetuated by the gullible.
They are performing a public service.
They highlight people's naivety and gullibility for a very small fee, thus showing them the error of their ways.
I fully endorse/support this service.
It says "If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck." in big red letters on the page explaining how to join GoonWaffe. It was there for years, yet the flow of fools willing to part with their isks never stops
it still is there
and still, the isk never stops coming |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
166
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:57:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Ray Tucker wrote:Smiling Menace wrote:lol Goons don't scam people. That is just a myth perpetuated by the gullible.
They are performing a public service.
They highlight people's naivety and gullibility for a very small fee, thus showing them the error of their ways.
I fully endorse/support this service.
It says "If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck." in big red letters on the page explaining how to join GoonWaffe. It was there for years, yet the flow of fools willing to part with their isks never stops it still is there and still, the isk never stops coming as long as it pays for my sub thats fine |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
240
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Posted - 2011.11.22 19:14:00 -
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Hero Tackler wrote: doesn't understand a f++cking word about law but: rabble rabble rabble
Can you please delete yourself IRL?
You started looking silly now you are just pathetic.
I don't like at all scam stuff but someone who asks you isk for any sort of apply is obviously a scam, if you pay it you deserve to be scamed and should biomass your char.
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Thomas Abernathy
Beekeepers Anonymous
11
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Posted - 2011.11.22 20:50:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Maxpie wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote: I would certainly hope so, seeing as how he is retired.
I smell a bromance I'm not nearly important enough.
Self-depreciating Goon alts are not really believable to the general population, could you try a new tactic?
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |
Jacada Ansari
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2011.11.22 22:07:00 -
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you people are really mean to us goonies. all i ever wanted was to be e-famous and to have a big hat, why say we are scammers when we are not. we are really nice people and we have bbqs every year and christmas parties.
i am really sad now, really really sad. i don't think i can play a game where everyone is not really friendly to each other. please stop spreading lies about my friends.
- captain jacada of the flying space boat |
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Ngoa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2011.11.23 10:47:00 -
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Thomas Abernathy wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Maxpie wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote: I would certainly hope so, seeing as how he is retired.
I smell a bromance I'm not nearly important enough. Self-depreciating Goon alts are not really believable to the general population, could you try a new tactic?
nearly five thousand likes suggests otherwise |
Ngoa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2011.11.23 10:50:00 -
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also we don't scam people
pubbies don't really count as people |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
92
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Posted - 2011.11.23 12:15:00 -
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Ngoa wrote:pubbies don't really count as people
I shave mine. |
whaynethepain
11
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Posted - 2011.11.24 12:38:00 -
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Well,
The Goons are a part of my chosen coalition, I will not waste my time explaining why, I don't have the word power, time or inclination. It is what's best for me.
I also applied to the Goons once, they asked for isk, I strung them along as far as I could. The chat wasn't too bad.
I knew that moment was a turning point for me.
I knew if I paid I would not be in my chosen coalition. |
Senshi Hawk
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 15:39:00 -
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Don't act so butthurt about a bunch of space egos taking your shinies. Anybody with the slightest familiarity of EvE's politics knew this was going to happen. There is no legal recourse here other than that "boy's will be boy's" bullshit, so move on and learn from it. |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
144
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Posted - 2011.11.24 16:12:00 -
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whaynethepain wrote:Well,
The Goons are a part of my chosen coalition, I will not waste my time explaining why, I don't have the word power, time or inclination. It is what's best for me.
I also applied to the Goons once, they asked for isk, I strung them along as far as I could. The chat wasn't too bad.
I knew that moment was a turning point for me.
I knew if I paid I would not be in my chosen coalition.
Prencleeve, is that you? I live, I post, I slay. I am content. |
whaynethepain
11
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Posted - 2011.11.24 20:15:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:whaynethepain wrote:bla de bla Prencleeve, is that you?
My name is Wayne, this is my main, my alt is called Whayneone.
And I have my 4 account alts, as they do my high-sec hauling, you will have to use Eve-Who to find them.
And now you know this, I will have to keeel you. Getting you on your feet.
So you've further to fall. |
Zack Evans
Supercarrier Aggression
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 21:39:00 -
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It amazes me that QQ is going on over goons taking isk for enlistment and scamming people and still getting away with it. If you havent read any threads over the last years about this topic, you deserve to get scammed. All you have to do is google goonswarm and the forst 5 listings are threads about them scamming. Put the crying to a end already.. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
30
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Posted - 2011.11.25 01:52:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:t's called "misplacing your trust". I can do the same in real life without any kind of troubles. Why ? You didn't sign any kind of contract. Everything you give to me, I'll consider it a donation, and since no contracts have been signed by you, I can do whatever the fsck I feel like doing.
No contracts between you and me => No obligation for me. Simple as that.
The only incorrect thing in your post. Oral contracts have the exact same force as written contracts (the details are harder to prove) and are litigated upon every day. An oral agreement is a contract if it meets certain requirements. So, while the recruitment scam is perfectly fine (and hilarious) in game, in RL trying things like it and defending yourself with "But I didn't sign anything" will get you laughed out of the courtroom (into jail, possibly). |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
30
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Posted - 2011.11.25 02:04:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Joshke wrote:If i were a lawyer, ... This is where I stopped reading, because if I were a doctor I would prescribe you crystal meth.
If I was a Law-yer na, na, na, na, na, na na na na See, I'd have all the juries in the world, if I was a good jurist No law could test me, impress me, my closings would never ever end Cause I'd have all the judges in the world, if I was a good jurist.
That's what I got out of that post. |
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