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Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
99
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Posted - 2014.05.29 13:39:00 -
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Castnicke Rinah wrote:Napoleon Baleine wrote:Castnicke Rinah wrote:A smart man once told me faction warfare is all about being able to reship constantly, throwing yourself into battle over and over again until your enemy is out of ships.. PERUNGA? :) No, it was most definitely not Perunga. It was XG.
I am going to say that you said X-perunGa then both heroes are given credit. Blasters for life
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Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
99
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Posted - 2014.05.29 13:42:00 -
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Lexiana Del'Amore wrote:If Crosi did not have a boosting alt i doubt many would even accept him into fleet...
I would.
Crosi is me personal hero. I believe that the liberated child of Nisuwa should name their children after her. Blasters for life
https://neverpheedthetroll.blogspot.com |
Shelom Severasse
Elite Kombat Academy
10
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Posted - 2014.05.29 19:16:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Napoleon Baleine wrote:Castnicke Rinah wrote:A smart man once told me faction warfare is all about being able to reship constantly, throwing yourself into battle over and over again until your enemy is out of ships.. PERUNGA? :) nope i remember being on comms when than said this |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
204
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Posted - 2014.05.29 22:01:00 -
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Shelom Severasse wrote:Thanatos Marathon wrote:Napoleon Baleine wrote:Castnicke Rinah wrote:A smart man once told me faction warfare is all about being able to reship constantly, throwing yourself into battle over and over again until your enemy is out of ships.. PERUNGA? :) nope i remember being on comms when than said this
I was just repeating XG. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2241
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Posted - 2014.05.29 22:50:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Shelom Severasse wrote: i remember being on comms when than said this
I was just repeating XG. No, I said the key is to welp your fleets into the other side until they run out of ammo. Then you kill them and take the plex. Works against everybody except Amarr and some of those damn drone based tristan fleets (if we can't kill their drones fast enough). |
Beardon
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
31
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Posted - 2014.06.01 17:19:00 -
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These threads tend to go the same way (like this one has): one side compares their best to the other sides worst... A corp/alliance centric Gallente fleet rolling out in doctrine ships vs a kitchen sink fleet pulled together with the dregs of militia pubbies. Of course galmil's best and brightest are way better than our worst and dimmest, but that's not really fair to those in calmil who actually step up. Nor do these types of comparisons don't capture what's actually going on in the warzone. For example, Templis rolls out in doctrine cruiser fleets with decent regularity and have great fights against you guys, but these aren't being taken into account with the galmil circlejerk.
Now, calmil has a much crappier baseline than galmil because we attract a lot more farmer types. But I'm sure all of us can distinguish between pubbies and actual fighting groups, and I really wish that the focus would be on the latter instead of rolling us all into one. You don't really have to make this distinction with galmil because it's a horrible farming militia; Galmil has a much stronger baseline than us in Calmil largely because state pro is just awful. Those who enter state pro to farm with thumbs up their asses shouldn't be taken as a reflection of those who actually learn to roll against the big dogs. Hell, I'm not even denying that galmil's fighting force is better than ours; you guys are pretty damn good at what you do and are probably better in general. I just don't feel that those of us who actually try are being well represented. We're not all farmers you know... Believe it or not, Calmil hates Calmil farmers as much as you guys do. |
wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
29
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:51:00 -
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Beardon wrote:These threads tend to go the same way (like this one has): one side compares their best to the other sides worst... A corp/alliance centric Gallente fleet rolling out in doctrine ships vs a kitchen sink fleet pulled together with the dregs of militia pubbies. Of course galmil's best and brightest are way better than our worst and dimmest, but that's not really fair to those in calmil who actually step up. Nor do these types of comparisons don't capture what's actually going on in the warzone. For example, Templis rolls out in doctrine cruiser fleets with decent regularity and have great fights against you guys, but these aren't being taken into account with the galmil circlejerk. Now, calmil has a much crappier baseline than galmil because we attract a lot more farmer types. But I'm sure all of us can distinguish between pubbies and actual fighting groups, and I really wish that the focus would be on the latter instead of rolling us all into one. You don't really have to make this distinction with galmil because it's a horrible farming militia; Galmil has a much stronger baseline than us in Calmil largely because state pro is just awful. Those who enter state pro to farm with thumbs up their asses shouldn't be taken as a reflection of those who actually learn to roll against the big dogs. Hell, I'm not even denying that galmil's fighting force is better than ours; you guys are pretty damn good at what you do and are probably better in general. I just don't feel that those of us who actually try are being well represented. We're not all farmers you know... Believe it or not, Calmil hates Calmil farmers as much as you guys do.
nobody is comparing the best of galmil to the worst of calmil
i am comparing the average galmil pilot to the average calmil pilot (this does not even factor in farmers)
furthermore...
if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining
if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them
sure i gotta give props to templis to bringing out doctrine fleets, but do you win often if ever? your alliance's efficiency speaks for itself |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2246
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:35:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them There's 20 good soloists in QCATS alone. |
Josclyn Verreuil
Justified Chaos
2
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Posted - 2014.06.01 23:14:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:
if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining
Fairly certain that I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen Diana soloing without her links.
That's not solo, wil. |
JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
208
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:08:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:wilgotna wrote:if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them There's 20 good soloists in QCATS alone.
Oh, go on =P The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts. |
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wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
29
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:28:00 -
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Josclyn Verreuil wrote:wilgotna wrote:
if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining
Fairly certain that I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen Diana soloing without her links. That's not solo, wil. yes it is |
Niden
Moira. Villore Accords
44
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Posted - 2014.06.02 07:42:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:Josclyn Verreuil wrote:wilgotna wrote:
if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining
Fairly certain that I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen Diana soloing without her links. That's not solo, wil. yes it is
That's like saying 2 = 1. The fact of the matter is that there are two ships involved in the engagement, not one - the very definition of solo. People who fly with links and call it solo are just pussies who don't have the balls to fight on a level playing field. It's fine, hell it's EVE, go ahead. But don't you ******* come to me and call it solo.
/N Moira. corp | Villore Accords alliance | Gallente militia | Crossing Zebras writer | @Niden_GMVA |
Niden
Moira. Villore Accords
44
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Posted - 2014.06.02 07:53:00 -
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Beardon wrote:These threads tend to go the same way (like this one has): one side compares their best to the other sides worst... A corp/alliance centric Gallente fleet rolling out in doctrine ships vs a kitchen sink fleet pulled together with the dregs of militia pubbies. Of course galmil's best and brightest are way better than our worst and dimmest, but that's not really fair to those in calmil who actually step up. Nor do these types of comparisons don't capture what's actually going on in the warzone. For example, Templis rolls out in doctrine cruiser fleets with decent regularity and have great fights against you guys, but these aren't being taken into account with the galmil circlejerk. Now, calmil has a much crappier baseline than galmil because we attract a lot more farmer types. But I'm sure all of us can distinguish between pubbies and actual fighting groups, and I really wish that the focus would be on the latter instead of rolling us all into one. You don't really have to make this distinction with galmil because it's a horrible farming militia; Galmil has a much stronger baseline than us in Calmil largely because state pro is just awful. Those who enter state pro to farm with thumbs up their asses shouldn't be taken as a reflection of those who actually learn to roll against the big dogs. Hell, I'm not even denying that galmil's fighting force is better than ours; you guys are pretty damn good at what you do and are probably better in general. I just don't feel that those of us who actually try are being well represented. We're not all farmers you know... Believe it or not, Calmil hates Calmil farmers as much as you guys do.
This was very well said. I sincirely hope Cal Mil culture changes and we get more people like you lot in there. Unfortunately due to physical location and the way missions look currently I don't think we'll see the shift from a farming culture to a martial culture happening until the missions can be balanced. At least you'll have a better chance of cultivating a change then.
/N Moira. corp | Villore Accords alliance | Gallente militia | Crossing Zebras writer | @Niden_GMVA |
wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
29
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Posted - 2014.06.02 08:09:00 -
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Niden wrote:That's like saying 2 = 1. The fact of the matter is that there are two ships involved in the engagement, not one - the very definition of solo. People who fly with links and call it solo are just pussies who don't have the balls to fight on a level playing field. It's fine, hell it's EVE, go ahead. But don't you ******* come to me and call it solo.
/N
thats cool if you dont consider it solo, but i do
take that dude who solod ratting carriers with his nyx... he had like 4 cyno/scout alts + the nyx
does this mean he 5v1 gangbanged the ratter?
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
1587
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Posted - 2014.06.02 11:14:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:
thats cool if you dont consider it solo, but i do
take that dude who solod ratting carriers with his nyx... he had like 4 cyno/scout alts + the nyx
does this mean he 5v1 gangbanged the ratter?
did the ratter send him a msg like "wat r u 2 scured 2 fite me solo pu55y?1"
So solo pvp isn't 1 ship vs. 1 ship it's 1 player vs. 1 player? Does that mean if I use something like ISBoxer to run a "solo" frigate fleet and I kill another ship, does that makes it a solo kill?
Or is it what appears on the killmail? If one day OGB appear on killmails if you're in fleet with them does that mean it's no longer a solo kill, but all the kill priors with OGB were true solo pvp?
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wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
30
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Posted - 2014.06.02 12:11:00 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:So solo pvp isn't 1 ship vs. 1 ship it's 1 player vs. 1 player? Does that mean if I use something like ISBoxer to run a "solo" frigate fleet and I kill another ship, does that makes it a solo kill?
Or is it what appears on the killmail? If one day OGB appear on killmails if you're in fleet with them does that mean it's no longer a solo kill, but all the kill priors with OGB were true solo pvp?
id define solo as 1 combat ship
as for killmails, ill still consider it solo if there's 1 combat ship, i dont really care if changes are made
but fo reals, we are way off topic
galmil needs a civil war bad for reasons stated in previous posts mmk |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
1587
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Posted - 2014.06.02 13:07:00 -
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wilgotna wrote: galmil needs a civil war bad for reasons stated in previous posts mmk
I'm not really sure what wishful thinking is going to accomplish. That, and I think a lot of the success of FDU corps/alliances is simply because they're willing to work together and focus not on, "Winning FW" (Since you can't) but just having fights and fun with your guys. It's pretty obvious there's a difference in culture when you even admit that Feds have more solo Pvp'ers compared to Caldari (definition of it aside). What makes a good solo pvp'er to me is someone who wants to shoot spaceships without needing to be told, or with a FC to tell them what to do. What's a galmil civil war going to solve if people in calmil won't undock to fight unless they're pushed by an FC?
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WEY'0UN
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
0
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Posted - 2014.06.02 13:16:00 -
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Fyi,
Drunk 'n' Disorderly will be switching sides to CAL Mil as of the 7th of june (pending fixing SPDR's standing issues) We hope this will help stimulate Gal/Cal warzone a little with cal gaining some new blood fc's (Guiynen and Larkness and Lockout)
Thanks for all the funzies |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2246
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Posted - 2014.06.02 14:21:00 -
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WEY'0UN wrote:Fyi,
Drunk 'n' Disorderly will be switching sides to CAL Mil as of the 7th of june (pending fixing SPDR's standing issues) We hope this will help stimulate Gal/Cal warzone a little with cal gaining some new blood fc's (Guiynen and Larkness and Lockout)
Thanks for all the funzies Finally somebody with balls! Rest of Gallente Militia are a bunch of female cats. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
689
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Posted - 2014.06.02 14:26:00 -
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Good luck with that.
WEY'0UN wrote:Fyi,
Drunk 'n' Disorderly will be switching sides to CAL Mil as of the 7th of june (pending fixing SPDR's standing issues) We hope this will help stimulate Gal/Cal warzone a little with cal gaining some new blood fc's (Guiynen and Larkness and Lockout)
Thanks for all the funzies
nom nom
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
179
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Posted - 2014.06.02 22:45:00 -
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... |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Circle-Of-Two
1185
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Posted - 2014.06.03 00:11:00 -
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Hmmm.....
Docked since 2009. |
Zerkova Bluecrown
C.Q.B
0
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Posted - 2014.06.03 04:33:00 -
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I smell trolls... that being said, if this statement is true it would cause some very interesting waves in the Gallente/Caldari conflict. Would I enjoy brawling with a GUIYNAN fleet? Hell yeah, it would be fun. Will this happen? I highly doubt it. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2247
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Posted - 2014.06.03 11:36:00 -
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wilgotna wrote: thats cool if you dont consider it solo, but i do
take that dude who solod ratting carriers with his nyx... he had like 4 cyno/scout alts + the nyx
does this mean he 5v1 gangbanged the ratter?
did the ratter send him a msg like "wat r u 2 scured 2 fite me solo pu55y?1"
I used to solo entire fleets of Caldari ships with my mission fit Ishtar. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
353
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Posted - 2014.06.03 12:11:00 -
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Zerkova Bluecrown wrote:I smell trolls... that being said, if this statement is true it would cause some very interesting waves in the Gallente/Caldari conflict. Would I enjoy brawling with a GUIYNAN fleet? Hell yeah, it would be fun. Will this happen? I highly HIGHLY doubt it.
ssshhhhhhshshshshhshs GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Beardon
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
33
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:43:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:
nobody is comparing the best of galmil to the worst of calmil
i am comparing the average galmil pilot to the average calmil pilot (this does not even factor in farmers)
furthermore...
if i think of calmil i can name 4 good soloists off the top of my head: diana and ibanez, and ibanez freaking quit the militia, qjuu defected and joined gallente (lol), greg01 quit the game as far as i know - this leaves only ONE remaining
if i think of galmil i can easily name 10 good soloists, and id probably be forgetting a lot of them
sure i gotta give props to templis to bringing out doctrine fleets, but do you win often if ever? your alliance's efficiency speaks for itself
I'm also going to point the probable bias lurking here: being in galmil, of course you know more soloists in galmil. I know more soloists in calmil because I know the pilots in calmil a lot better. I also put it in right there that I'm not claiming the average calmil pilot is better than the average galmil pilot, or even on par for that matter, I only claimed that I felt your representation of calmil was shallow and strawmanish.
And yes, we do win often in our doctrine fleets. Or alliance efficiency isn't through the roof or anything but I got zero shame about it; we're a laid back newbro friendly alliance that's drunk more often than not. We hold our own when we undock in our doctrine fleets and win more often than we lose.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2250
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:05:00 -
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Will wil will the Caldari to greatness, or will wil turn into the next egomaniacal Caldari FC? Time will tell.
I'm not saying we're paying SovietGuard like we did Bolsterbomb to sew dissent throughout the Caldari ranks, but I'm not saying we're not either. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
353
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Posted - 2014.06.03 18:23:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Will wil will the Caldari to greatness, or will wil turn into the next egomaniacal Caldari FC? Time will tell.
I'm not saying we're paying SovietGuard like we did "THE DON" Bolsterbomb to sew dissent throughout the Caldari ranks, but I'm not saying we're not either.
There fixed that for you GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
30
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Posted - 2014.06.03 19:26:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Will wil will the Caldari to greatness, or will wil turn into the next egomaniacal Caldari FC? Time will tell.
I'm not saying we're paying SovietGuard like we did Bolsterbomb to sew dissent throughout the Caldari ranks, but I'm not saying we're not either. so far ive gotten banned from most corp/alliance channels i know the intel channels, but whats the point if i join theyll just instaban me most people who read the militia chat have either written me off as a spy or blocked me im not good at this diplomacy stuff do you sell lessons x g? also im not familiar with bolsterbomb, please enlighten me
Beardon wrote:I'm also going to point the probable bias lurking here: being in galmil, of course you know more soloists in galmil. I know more soloists in calmil because I know the pilots in calmil a lot better. this is just dumb i dont get to know the soloists in the area by being in a certain militia i learn by flying around and dying i can name way more pirate soloists than i can calmil soloists, does this mean im in the pirate militia? |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2251
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Posted - 2014.06.03 20:10:00 -
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I wasted a perfectly funny post designed to sew seeds of discontent in Caldari militia for... for nothing??!!
IMO, you should rejoin Gallente militia and exact your revenge on those ungrateful bastards. |
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