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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
195
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Posted - 2014.05.23 23:08:00 -
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Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote: So you agree that you are too crazy for the Covenant then? Or do you just feel a tad inadequate compared to Omir?
The Blood Raiders operate Pleasure Hubs, which are sinful. God has given Pleasure Hubs over to destruction.
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
543
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Posted - 2014.05.24 04:32:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:Ms. Kim, shut the **** up.
The blooder who started this thread, may his name be struck, deserves everything Rella says. And more. Gods and spirits. This is it. This is the day we finally found someone so repulsive and objectionable even Ammatar and Minmatar are backing each other up.
As my father once told me when I was young "even a broken clock can be right twice a day." |
Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
585
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Posted - 2014.05.24 05:37:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:Ms. Kim, shut the **** up.
The blooder who started this thread, may his name be struck, deserves everything Rella says. And more. Gods and spirits. This is it. This is the day we finally found someone so repulsive and objectionable even Ammatar and Minmatar are backing each other up. As my father once told me when I was young "even a broken clock can be right twice a day."
Which one is the broken clock? |
Nick Shale
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
41
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Posted - 2014.05.24 07:37:00 -
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Self-proclamation of authoritative titles is a common phenomenon among occult sect leaders. A cursory survey of this phenomenon will instantly reveal a multitude of self-declared Masters, High Priests, gurus, Prophets, saviors, with Dr. Kuvakei being one of the most prominent.
Legitimate religious teachers and scholars know that a genuine spiritual leader is one whose calling to lead is first noticed by those outside of him or she based on certain qualities, abilities, and actions then must subsequently be accepted by the individual in question as his or her destiny. This contrasts with those whose will to lead is born simply out of the pursuit of self-interest.
The pursuit of self-interest and self-realization turns into self-absorption; other people lose their intrinsic value in our eyes and become mere means to the fulfillment of our needs and desires like the Vherokior in the story whose sole purpose was to validate Mr. Nauplius claims. Keep in mind that a shepherd should always be pure in thought, inasmuch as no impurity pollute him, for the hand that would cleanse from dirt must need to be clean, lest, being itself sordid with clinging mud, it soils all the more whatever it touches.
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Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour
355
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Posted - 2014.05.24 08:11:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:The Blood Raiders operate Pleasure Hubs
I was not Aware of This.
I request some Photographic Evidence. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3702
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Posted - 2014.05.24 10:55:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote: So you agree that you are too crazy for the Covenant then? Or do you just feel a tad inadequate compared to Omir?
The Blood Raiders operate Pleasure Hubs, which are sinful. God has given Pleasure Hubs over to destruction.
I suspect that the list of things that Nappy thinks God hasn't given over to destruction could be written with a large marker on a small post-it note. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour
355
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Posted - 2014.05.24 11:23:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Nauplius wrote:Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote: So you agree that you are too crazy for the Covenant then? Or do you just feel a tad inadequate compared to Omir?
The Blood Raiders operate Pleasure Hubs, which are sinful. God has given Pleasure Hubs over to destruction. I suspect that the list of things that Nappy thinks God hasn't given over to destruction could be written with a large marker on a small post-it note.
All things have a Beginning and an End.
It is Written. |
Caroline Grace
Grace Stellar Conveyance Inc.
534
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Posted - 2014.05.24 14:12:00 -
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Capsuleer Nauplius, for your recent activities you will be bountied by 666 666 ISK once again.
Please note such bounty is a direct insult to your God and for you to be able to avoid this blasphemy, you have to consider either a nice vacation in an asylum, proposal to Diana Kim before you both fly directly into a lava planet, or simply stop posting on ISG network forever.
Have a wonderful day. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
195
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Posted - 2014.05.24 16:40:00 -
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Synthetic Cultist wrote:Nauplius wrote:The Blood Raiders operate Pleasure Hubs I was not Aware of This. I request some Photographic Evidence.
Behold: http://imgur.com/B45bMYI
This filthy structure was found in the Vaarma constellation; it appears in a cosmic anomaly called a "Blood Raider Hidden Hideaway".
I destroyed four of these structures today in which I recovered 10 Exotic Dancers of each gender, 10 Janitors, and 10 Marines. All of them I later butchered on the altar of God. Contact with the Blood Raider pilots was avoided; hopefully they will repent of their pleasure-seeking ways, lest they find themselves sentenced to the Mouth of Hell along with other Wayward Chosen such as PIE. |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
195
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Posted - 2014.05.24 17:01:00 -
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All you heretics and sinners are missing the point. So let me lay it out for you GÇö
- Everyone is immortal; our fleshy life is but an insignificant trifle compared to our afterlife.
- God hates Minmatar and sends them all to Hell.
- Put #1 and #2 together; all of my filthy Minmatar slaves are going to spend essentially all of their worthless existence being slaughtered in Hell forever; whether I or the hero of the story in the original post sends them to Hell a little earlier is nothing worth whining about they way everyone in this thread is doing.
The truly special thing about the story in the original post, then, is not that five filthy Minmatar were sent on their way to Hell, but that one of them was saved. And he was saved by the touch of God, the election of God; he solved the riddle of the Apocryphon and saw that he must totally reject his own people and become something else, become a Chosen of God. And his initiation into the Chosen must be following God's Commandment to kill the Minmatar and feed on their blood, for the blood of the Brutor provides strength to the Chosen; the blood of the Sebiestor provides intellect to the Chosen; and the blood of the Vherokior provides Wisdom to the Chosen. That is what we must celebrate. Amen. Amarr Victor. |
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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
522
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Posted - 2014.05.24 17:16:00 -
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Didn't know your particular mass delusion subscribed to the whole "hell" idea. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Deitra Vess
S.E.B.I.E.S.T.O.R.
19
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Posted - 2014.05.24 19:59:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:All you heretics and sinners are missing the point. So let me lay it out if or you GÇö
- Everyone is immortal; our fleshy life is but an insignificant trifle compared to our afterlife.
- God hates Minmatar and sends them all to Hell.
- Put #1 and #2 together; all of my filthy Minmatar slaves are going to spend essentially all of their worthless existence being slaughtered in Hell forever; whether I or the hero of the story in the original post sends them to Hell a little earlier is nothing worth whining about they way everyone in this thread is doing.
The truly special thing about the story in the original post, then, is not that five filthy Minmatar were sent on their way to Hell, but that one of them was saved. And he was saved by the touch of God, the election of God; he solved the riddle of the Apocryphon and saw that he must totally reject his own people and become something else, become a Chosen of God. And his initiation into the Chosen must be following God's Commandment to kill the Minmatar and feed on their blood, for the blood of the Brutor provides strength to the Chosen; the blood of the Sebiestor provides intellect to the Chosen; and the blood of the Vherokior provides Wisdom to the Chosen. That is what we must celebrate. Amen. Amarr Victor.
If their blood provides these qualities, wouldn't that make them superior to the chosen? If they were better they wouldn't need to seek these qualities from inferior sources.... right? |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
4670
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Posted - 2014.05.24 22:20:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:Didn't know your particular mass delusion subscribed to the whole "hell" idea. They don't. Hell isn't a part of any canon version of the Scriptures. Mane 614
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
565
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Posted - 2014.05.24 22:52:00 -
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The blooder doesn't subscribe to the canon. He believes in his own delusions, which includes a hell.
Though canon does include mention of things that could be equated with hell, the concept is not quite so defined as what the blooder wants to believe in. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3705
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Posted - 2014.05.25 08:23:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:All you heretics and sinners are missing the point. So let me lay it out for you GÇö
- Everyone is immortal; our fleshy life is but an insignificant trifle compared to our afterlife.
- God hates Minmatar and sends them all to Hell.
- Put #1 and #2 together; all of my filthy Minmatar slaves are going to spend essentially all of their worthless existence being slaughtered in Hell forever; whether I or the hero of the story in the original post sends them to Hell a little earlier is nothing worth whining about they way everyone in this thread is doing.
The truly special thing about the story in the original post, then, is not that five filthy Minmatar were sent on their way to Hell, but that one of them was saved. And he was saved by the touch of God, the election of God; he solved the riddle of the Apocryphon and saw that he must totally reject his own people and become something else, become a Chosen of God. And his initiation into the Chosen must be following God's Commandment to kill the Minmatar and feed on their blood, for the blood of the Brutor provides strength to the Chosen; the blood of the Sebiestor provides intellect to the Chosen; and the blood of the Vherokior provides Wisdom to the Chosen. That is what we must celebrate. Amen. Amarr Victor.
So the god you believe in is a monster.
Am I supposed to be impressed that you worship and serve this monster? Where I'm from, the word for people like you is "coward."
The correct response to the scenario you believe we're in is to find a way to kill God, not to suck his ****. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
524
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Posted - 2014.05.25 09:38:00 -
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To kill a god. Well, I suppose if it is to be done, eggers are the ones to do it. The question then becomes how. Identify the target, determine exactly what you are to bring to an end. An ephemeral ghost hiding within the delusions of its faithful? An idea? A real entity that can interact with our reality? It's an interesting enough thought experiment, I suppose.
I think it's safe to say it'd have to be one of the former, so its refuge would be the hearts and minds of real people of flesh and blood. Then what would be the battleplan? One could simply use brute force and destroy every stronghold the delusion hides within. Antimatter rounds delivered at terminal velocities would take care of that, but it's hardly an elegant solution given all the ways it can go wrong or fail to root out every heart, body and mind carrying this memetic virus.
You could infiltrate these hiding places, cleaning the infestation out from within through education, logic, reasoning and deprogramming. Some would obviously be impregnable, like the aforementioned coward that holds a certainty I almost envy.
An almost impossible task then, which would probably require more than one approach to succeed.
I think I'd pay good money to see someone try, though. It wouldn't be the first imagined deity who's death eventually became nothing more than a whisper on the Winds, not even leaving behind a memory. Then again, who considers this coward worth the time and effort?
If anyone does, let me know. I am bored enough to spend time and ISK on an idle distraction. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3709
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Posted - 2014.05.25 09:48:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:Memetic virus.
A phrase which happily suggests the term "Memetic vaccine."
An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
24
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Posted - 2014.05.25 10:05:00 -
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Human mind defaults to supernatural when it's too weak to explain things. It works this way since stone age and will work this way until humanity still exists. If you kill a god, others sooner or later will take his place, and there's no guarantee that the young gods wouldn't surpass the old one in hatred, cruelty and stupidity. |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
524
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Posted - 2014.05.25 10:06:00 -
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Well, I always did want to see more and better education in New Eden. I think I'm going to have to hire a firm to do an analysis of infection vectors, population spread and mobility, education levels etc. With enough data crunched, one should be able to pinpoint the locations where good educational institutions and - to stretch the metaphor - proper anti-virus efforts would have the greatest impact.
I wonder what ratio you'd need to ensure herd immunity? A few billion ISK every once in a while should be enough to fund both institutions and the less savory aspect of excising the infection sources, for some time.
I should have workable figures within a month or two, given that most of this data should be available for a minor price. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
524
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Posted - 2014.05.25 10:08:00 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Human mind defaults to supernatural when it's too weak to explain things. It works this way since stone age and will work this way until humanity still exists. If you kill a god, others sooner or later will take his place, and there's no guarantee that the young gods wouldn't surpass the old one in hatred, cruelty and stupidity.
New viruses may be worse than the old ones, but you still get rid of the ones you have today. Fear of tomorrow can't be allowed to stop you from making today better than yesterday. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
566
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Posted - 2014.05.25 10:33:00 -
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Are you all even still talking about the blooder? Or have you moved on to attacking any religious adherent anywhere? |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
524
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Posted - 2014.05.25 10:58:00 -
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I suppose an effort to spread and improve educational institutions would be considered "attacking religious adherents" to some.
That sort of says it all, doesn't it? Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
566
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Posted - 2014.05.25 11:52:00 -
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Yes yes, religious followers are all uneducated simpletons, obviously. We'll ignore the fact that Amarr has some of the best educational institutions in the cluster and that the Scriptures themselves include research documents in fields such as jump drives and cynosural field theory that are referenced in scientific journals today. In fact, there's probably quite a few things in your nation's textbooks that originated in the Scriptures, from Amarrian research... you've just rephrased it all and removed any religious language to make it purely secular.
I'll do the same, and alter the language you've used. Analysis of vectors, spread, and mobility of the "infection" known as religion? Well, that's Theology. Even your secular schools have already long had religious study programs that research the propagation of religion. "Infiltrating to cleanse the infestation," meaning, to go in and try to change people's beliefs? That's more commonly known as Missionary work. And "antimatter rounds delivered at terminal velocity" to cull the population, that one is easy: genocide. A method the blooder who started this thread favors.
So really, you're not doing anything that adds to or improves existing educational institutions. |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
524
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:06:00 -
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"Uneducated simpletons" were your words, not mine. The same as "attacking religious adherents". I also suspect there's no "just" in removing all the religious dribble adding a lot of noise to the signal when you're dealing with scientific advancement.
As for trying to equate education with missionary work, it's not exactly a new thing to try making rational endeavors look like they're the same or equal to religious ones. Religion has always tried to legitimize itself by piggybacking actual reasoning and accomplishment after all.
What I'm doing, though... is nothing at all. Yet. If you paid attention, all you'll see is the gathering and processing of data in order to satisfy idle curiosity. Improving existing educational institutions in the Empire would be easy, though. Remove the indoctrination, add better understanding of critical thinking. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3711
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:08:00 -
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Leaving aside the expected indignation for a second, I reckon a study of the epidemiology of religion would be an interesting one.
Extremely rapid mutation, exclusivity - there's no possibility of multiple "infections", only of hybridization... you'd look for vectors, innoculation factors, environmental risk-factors, common symptoms...
There's a reason we use the word "virality" to describe the phenomenon of rapidly-spreading trends and fashions after all. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
524
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:13:00 -
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You're entirely right. I should broaden the spectrum of this thing. Should actually use multiple projects on the same subject, in fact. Different approaches too. This is going to require a lot of manpower, I suspect. Expensive manpower. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
260
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:26:00 -
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Oh, look. The atheists are here.
How quaint! GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
524
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:40:00 -
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I suppose you'd prefer the Blooder, then? Besides, I'm no atheist any more than you are. There's no words that describe myself not playing Splinterz or a word stating I don't go dirtside. Likewise, there's no need for a word that says I don't subscribe to a faith.
There are words that do describe what I am and do though, like humanist, post-humanist and more. Far more descriptive of me and my endeavors but I suspect they don't carry the invective quality needed for the small-minded to feel righteous about their attempted slurs, do they? Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
260
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:43:00 -
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Small minded people post here to feel righteous, eh?
You mean, like you do, in every post you make?
GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
524
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:48:00 -
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Wouldn't even pretend to be righteous as I suspect I wouldn't be able to keep a straight face while doing so. You give a bored little IGS rambler far too much credit, really. Also, you're focusing quite a lot on the person instead of the subject. I'm sure you'd have great things to contribute if you stayed on topic, no?
I can take over the "no u" bit if you feel it needs to be a part of the discussion, if you'd like. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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