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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2014.05.23 03:38:00 -
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Eve Radio ask / beg eve players on a regular basis for real life cash donations to keep the station broadcasting with the suggestion that if they don't it will no longer continue to broadcast.
Outwith any form of formal audit to disclose the actual cost they incur on a monthly basis to cover operational costs, I would present the how long is a piece of string arguement.
Given this I specifically ask CCP to clarify there stance on the fact that Eve Radio use Eve and its in game media as a platform to ask for real money donations with no guarantees as to whether that request is ever valid or what the donations will actually ever be spent on.
If Eve Radio are misleading the Eve community and scamming real life money then you have a scenario where CCP are permitting it absent any form of formal regulation.
Subsequently I make this thread asking CCP to clarify.
Eve Radio claim they need x amount of cash donations per month to stay on air and ask eve players to donate real life cash
What if they are asking for more real life cash donations than they need?
No offence to any over zelous isd but the questions i have presented are not speculation and do merit answers.
Eve Radio are not CCP but they do use this game to ask for real cash.
Food for thought. Black Man with Goggles |
Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.05.23 03:44:00 -
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How much monies do they say they need? |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2014.05.23 03:46:00 -
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Why does it matter? It isn't really a scam since it is a donation and they still provide a service that you were aware of prior to donating that is still being provided. The actual amount they need a month is irrelevant, it wouldn't be a surprise if they said they needed more then the operating costs, in order to put some aside incase a few months of donations don't keep up with operating costs. Or if you know they want to buy some cheetos for themselves for running the service.
They aren't a charity what they do with donations isn't really relevant. So long as they continue to provide a service, and one which is primarily self and donated funded they are under no obligation to release audits. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2014.05.23 03:51:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Why does it matter? It isn't really a scam since it is a donation and they still provide a service that you were aware of prior to donating that is still being provided. The actual amount they need a month is irrelevant, it wouldn't be a surprise if they said they needed more then the operating costs, in order to put some aside incase a few months of donations don't keep up with operating costs. Or if you know they want to buy some cheetos for themselves for running the service.
They aren't a charity what they do with donations isn't really relevant. So long as they continue to provide a service, and one which is primarily self and donated funded they are under no obligation to release audits. if the rl cash you donate under false pretence goes towards augmenting the real life wallet of a player then that is what you call a real life scam not an in game eve scam Black Man with Goggles |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3511
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Posted - 2014.05.23 03:54:00 -
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Singeabooty Raj wrote:if the rl cash you donate under false pretence goes towards augmenting the real life wallet of a player then that is what you call a real life scam not an in game eve scam If you have any evidence of illegal activities I suggest you contact law enforcement. Lacking that, this thread is nothing more than rumour mongering and slander. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
475
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Posted - 2014.05.23 03:56:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Why does it matter? It isn't really a scam since it is a donation and they still provide a service that you were aware of prior to donating that is still being provided. The actual amount they need a month is irrelevant, it wouldn't be a surprise if they said they needed more then the operating costs, in order to put some aside incase a few months of donations don't keep up with operating costs. Or if you know they want to buy some cheetos for themselves for running the service.
They aren't a charity what they do with donations isn't really relevant. So long as they continue to provide a service, and one which is primarily self and donated funded they are under no obligation to release audits. the underlying principle being the suggestion of using the eve media to mislead it's players into considering real life financial transactions for the benefit of the individual that was getting the excess of the donations Black Man with Goggles |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
475
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:00:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Singeabooty Raj wrote:if the rl cash you donate under false pretence goes towards augmenting the real life wallet of a player then that is what you call a real life scam not an in game eve scam If you have any evidence of illegal activities I suggest you contact law enforcement. Lacking that, this thread is nothing more than rumour mongering and slander. if it was rumour and slander then i assume eve radio could easily provide evidence of why they ask for the cash amount they do on a monthly basis? Black Man with Goggles |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
475
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:01:00 -
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I have made no allegations, i have only asked for CCP clarification on the question that i asked Black Man with Goggles |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:28:00 -
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Wait, what?! There are RL businesses making monies riding on CCP's coat tails?
You don't say... The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1564
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:32:00 -
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This seems sneekily similar to a thread not all that long ago.
Will see if I can find.
Suspect an alt is at work here. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
475
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:36:00 -
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Except this time i'm asking for ccp clarification?
Black Man with Goggles |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1565
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:38:00 -
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Singeabooty Raj wrote:this time i'm asking for ccp clarification?
Won't affect the outcome, which will be the same - a thread lock. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
695
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:41:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:EDIT: Same player as this thread perhaps? Use of the same, unusual, "outwith" term. Not a coincidence. Just SSDD. Your last thread was locked. I predict a similar outcome for this one.
I was thinking I had seen this exact same thread a while back. You'd think he would give up with this crap.
As for OP claiming to seek advice from CCP and wants to know their stance; If that truly was the case you would petition it and / or email them. So how about you drop the bullshit eh? Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
475
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:43:00 -
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Not a hard nut to crack, the thread was made in the context of asking CCP a question.
That question pertains to eve radio using eve to beg / ask for real life cash.
Outwith audit how do you know the real life isk eve radio beg for doesn't pay Mr Blades council tax, just saying Black Man with Goggles |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:51:00 -
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Hey if i am sabre rattling then Eve Radio could easily validate a break down of their monthly costs right?
Outwith me establishing my legal high ground this thread still remains me asking for CCP clarification on the question i asked. Black Man with Goggles |
Yabba Addict
The Lost Minmatar Legion The Scourge.
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:53:00 -
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Eve Radio doesn't ask new eden for cash, it asks its' listeners for cash. Just because it is about a certain subject does NOT mean the company whose game this radio station talks about should have any responsibility about how said radio station is run or how their finances are handled.
Singeabooty Raj wrote: real life isk Niiice...
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3511
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:53:00 -
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If you want to ask CCP a question, send them an email. You will not gain the response you desire in through the forums. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
657
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:56:00 -
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Singeabooty Raj wrote:Except this time i'm asking for ccp clarification?
Well gosh, as long as you've couched your rumor-whoring in the presentation of a request for "clarification" I guess it's totally a different thing, right? |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:58:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:If you want to ask CCP a question, send them an email. You will not gain the response you desire in through the forums. I have provided CCP with evidence to investigate what i evaluate to be a real life scam that exploits eve players.. Serious stuff to be honest Up to them to decide i guess. Black Man with Goggles |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
695
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:04:00 -
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Singeabooty Raj wrote:Abrazzar wrote:If you want to ask CCP a question, send them an email. You will not gain the response you desire in through the forums. I have provided CCP with evidence to investigate what i evaluate to be a real life scam that exploits eve players.. Serious stuff to be honest Up to them to decide i guess. Really? And you did all that by email?
If not, why not.
If so, you have no reason to bring it to the forums other than to try and rattle cages or in an attempt to force CCP to give you an answer. You're not very smart are you Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
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Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:08:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Singeabooty Raj wrote:Abrazzar wrote:If you want to ask CCP a question, send them an email. You will not gain the response you desire in through the forums. I have provided CCP with evidence to investigate what i evaluate to be a real life scam that exploits eve players.. Serious stuff to be honest Up to them to decide i guess. Really? And you did all that by email? If not, why not. If so, you have no reason to bring it to the forums other than to try and rattle cages or in an attempt to force CCP to give you an answer. You're not very smart are you Are you one of the people who donates real money each month to eve radio not aware it's part of a wider radio network and doesn't need that cash?
+1 for trying to call me out while being blind Black Man with Goggles |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1565
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:10:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:You're not very smart are you Intelligence is not a qualification to play the game or the forum.
It's only a requirement in order to be successful at each.
I fail miserably unfortunately.
Aside from that, we probably don't need to attack the OP. His ideas provide enough material to concentrate on anyway.
OP, same answer I gave in the last thread. If you believe Eve Radio is a scam, then don't donate any money to them. It's no more complicated than that. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
695
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:16:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:You're not very smart are you Intelligence is not a qualification to play the game or the forum. It's only a requirement in order to be successful at each. I fail miserably unfortunately. Aside from that, we probably don't need to attack the OP. His ideas provide enough material to concentrate on anyway. OP, same answer I gave in the last thread. If you believe Eve Radio is a scam, then don't donate any money to them. It's no more complicated than that.
You mis-understood, read the sentance beforehand. What I meant (and I cannot believe I am explaining this) is that if he is trying to force CCP into giving him a reply, it really won't end well and he isn't being very smart doing said arm twisting. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
476
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:21:00 -
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I have made no allegations, only asked CCP for clarifiaction.
That was the basis for this thread and i still await answer.
Any suggestive remarks that i have made in this thread that that eve radio was scamming the eve community out of rl cash.....
.... if i am so wrong them i assume eve radio can counter these allegations.
Outwith that, they are innocent until proven quitly.
If no proof comes forward then
Black Man with Goggles |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1565
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:25:00 -
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Singeabooty Raj wrote:Outwith that, they are innocent until proven quitly. Except, that outwith, in your view they are guilty until proven innocent.
As others have said, the forum isn't the place to ask CCP to clarify.
If you think there is an issue, raise a petition in game or through the Support site available from the EVE Universe menu at the top right of the forum.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:27:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:You mis-understood, read the sentance beforehand. No, you were clear (and also correct).
My comment was more of a comment that t's unfortunate you don't need to be smart to play the game or the forum. If you did, this thread would never have been started. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Gin Alley
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:31:00 -
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Singeabooty Raj wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Why does it matter? It isn't really a scam since it is a donation and they still provide a service that you were aware of prior to donating that is still being provided. The actual amount they need a month is irrelevant, it wouldn't be a surprise if they said they needed more then the operating costs, in order to put some aside incase a few months of donations don't keep up with operating costs. Or if you know they want to buy some cheetos for themselves for running the service.
They aren't a charity what they do with donations isn't really relevant. So long as they continue to provide a service, and one which is primarily self and donated funded they are under no obligation to release audits. if the rl cash you donate under false pretence goes towards augmenting the real life wallet of a player then that is what you call a real life scam not an in game eve scam
Let me tell you about Somer Blink, you know- the guy who made over 100k USD from EVE Online |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
696
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:31:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:You mis-understood, read the sentance beforehand. No, you were clear (and also correct). My comment was more of a comment that t's unfortunate you don't need to be smart to play the game or the forum. If you did, this thread would never have been started.
Whoops my bad
And OP, Scipio already linked the thread but I will link the post. Here's your answer. Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
476
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:54:00 -
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wow @ those jumping to defence. Am i impacting your business model? Black Man with Goggles |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.23 05:57:00 -
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Singeabooty Raj wrote:wow @ those jumping to defence. Am i impacting your business model? At* Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
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