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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
265
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Posted - 2014.07.06 06:50:00 -
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Radric Davids wrote:Makes me so happy to see how much time Gevlon spends linking scores of 500m killmails which are reimbursed fully Do you mean that the alliance wallet is hurt? Last week the slogan was that the alliances are unaffected, just idiots lose their individual assets.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
182
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Posted - 2014.07.06 07:50:00 -
[902] - Quote
Gevlon Goblin wrote:Radric Davids wrote:Makes me so happy to see how much time Gevlon spends linking scores of 500m killmails which are reimbursed fully Do you mean that the alliance wallet is hurt? Last week the slogan was that the alliances are unaffected, just idiots lose their individual assets.
Oh man, cry some more about your failed attempts to hurt goons. They can shrug off such losses, while you haul implants 24/7 so your wallet doesn't drop to 0. |
Succendus Tegimens
Hey Fatty With Your Thick Face
26
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Posted - 2014.07.06 08:01:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Radric Davids wrote:Makes me so happy to see how much time Gevlon spends linking scores of 500m killmails which are reimbursed fully Do you mean that the alliance wallet is hurt? Last week the slogan was that the alliances are unaffected, just idiots lose their individual assets.
Those funds are set aside for SRP, most likely, which means that they are already marked down as losses on the alliance ledger. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1015
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Posted - 2014.07.06 08:41:00 -
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And now the CFC is paying for our SRP, with all the loot we get from the kills
Ok, I will be nice here "THANK YOU CFC !" YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
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Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
182
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Posted - 2014.07.06 09:58:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:And now the CFC is paying for our SRP, with all the loot we get from the kills Ok, I will be nice here "THANK YOU CFC !"
Everybody profits in some way from Gevlon's delusional war. Everybody, except him of course. But someone has to work and pay the bills for this show, right? |
Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
37
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:38:00 -
[906] - Quote
Succendus Tegimens wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:Radric Davids wrote:Makes me so happy to see how much time Gevlon spends linking scores of 500m killmails which are reimbursed fully Do you mean that the alliance wallet is hurt? Last week the slogan was that the alliances are unaffected, just idiots lose their individual assets. Those funds are set aside for SRP, most likely, which means that they are already marked down as losses on the alliance ledger.
Gelvon accounts for his 'donations' too so I guess they don't really cost him anything as well :)
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Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
37
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:43:00 -
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Pete Butcher wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:And now the CFC is paying for our SRP, with all the loot we get from the kills Ok, I will be nice here "THANK YOU CFC !" Everybody profits in some way from Gevlon's delusional war. Everybody, except him of course. But someone has to work and pay the bills for this show, right?
There isn't that much work involved in generating the isk through trading. Try it and see!
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Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
182
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Posted - 2014.07.06 10:47:00 -
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Joseph Soprano wrote:Pete Butcher wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:And now the CFC is paying for our SRP, with all the loot we get from the kills Ok, I will be nice here "THANK YOU CFC !" Everybody profits in some way from Gevlon's delusional war. Everybody, except him of course. But someone has to work and pay the bills for this show, right? There isn't that much work involved in generating the isk through trading. Try it and see!
Given the things he posts, it's hard to imagine he does anything else in RL, besides sitting in front of a computer, hauling implants all the time. After all, he doesn't believe in any fun activities - everything should revolve around increasing an arbitrary virtual number. That's the meaning of life, you know... |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3412
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Posted - 2014.07.06 11:19:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Radric Davids wrote:Makes me so happy to see how much time Gevlon spends linking scores of 500m killmails which are reimbursed fully Do you mean that the alliance wallet is hurt? Last week the slogan was that the alliances are unaffected, just idiots lose their individual assets. Depends what you're linking, doesn't it? If you're linking losses in Deklein, or most of 0.0, then odds are it is reimbursed. If you're linking stuff that died in Jita, it's unlikely.
Either way, though, the amounts you're talking about still amount to a rounding error. I mean it literally; the damage you're "doing" is within the margin of error. You can't say, at a basic statistical level, that you are causing any difference at all.
I challenged you a while ago to actually run a simple stats test on the numbers. I can only assume you have done so (since it's within the capabilities of "sperg meets excel") and are simply too sad at the result to post it.
It's high-school level math: "Tim flips a coin 8 times. It comes up heads 5 times. Can we conclude the coin is not 50:50 as you would expect?"
Maths says: No, lol. Get some more data.
Gevlon says: YES LOOK I AM DOING 25% MORE HEADS THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT AT THIS RATE THE AMOUNT OF HEADS WILL COLLAPSE COINS EVERYWHERE OHHHH MY GOD LOOK I MADE A GRAPH YOU CANT ARGUE WITH MATH COIN NERDS!"
Run the numbers, Gevlon, then cry into your meal-for-one.
Joseph Soprano wrote:There isn't that much work involved in generating the isk through trading. Try it and see!
I'm inclined to agree, however Gevlon has stated many times that he goes for the high-effort approach rather than using intelligent ways of making his existing wealth work for him. The weekly income he claims should take a few clicks a day, but no, that would make him a slacker, so he instead poopsocks buy-low/sell-high on rather trivial amounts and hauls them around in a Tengu.
Rest assured that Gevlon plays the ever-loving **** out of Eve, and all-but 100% of his super-sperg effort goes right into the "grr project". "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
641
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Posted - 2014.07.06 23:08:00 -
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Pete Butcher wrote: Given the things he posts, it's hard to imagine he does anything else in RL, besides sitting in front of a computer, hauling implants all the time. After all, he doesn't believe in any fun activities - everything should revolve around increasing an arbitrary virtual number. That's the meaning of life, you know...
Well, after all life can be summed up with a single arbitrary number: 42.
All in all, it seems Gevlon is pulling a classic tactic of presenting vague fact with a lot of buzzwords (STATISTICS CONFIRM! NUMBERS SAY!) and drawing his own conclusion basing on incomplete data. Somewhat commonplace thing in tabloid journalism.
Hell, he even fits the part where he claims TMC is a "propaganda mouthpiece" and presents his information as "THE STUFF GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW". He alone fills the vital role of ****** newspapers in New Eden, and reminds us all how much we need our morning dose of laughing at nonsensical conspiracies and sperg.
Most of his claims are basic facts that are given an anti-cfc spin. For instance, a somewhat recent post about "Small gang being the bane of the CFC" claiming that, basing on recently accumulated data, "local" groups outdamage major coalitions in terms of fighting the CFC.
It all sounds good and discovery-tastic until we look at the map and coalition logistics. At this time, coalition fights are rare - there's no reason to fight. Neither there is one to deploy across many regions to harass a group - so alliances and corporations that are close by will take the lead in damage. They are close by and want a fight, the local alliance likely wants a fight so one takes a few shots at the POS of another and we have a fight. Or someone gets dumb in his ratting ship and loses it to some ceptors because he didn't read intel.
As it is with all raving maniacs, the way to actually deal with Goblin is to stop giving even a quarter of a ****. Not even read his posts, not respond, just let him flail his arms about in a funny manner and eventually get tired. That said, I doubt anyone around wants him gone - watching Gevlon Goblin post is like observing a terrible accident happen. You know it's sickening, you want to throw up and run away (preferably buy a bottle of something strong to wash away what you saw) but just can't stop watching. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |
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Solitary Pal
The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation
33
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Posted - 2014.07.06 23:32:00 -
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Distinct lack of titans around here I have a monocle therefore my opinion matters more than yours. |
Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
196
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Posted - 2014.07.06 23:48:00 -
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Solitary Pal wrote:Distinct lack of titans around here I took 3 titan bridges today |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Unleashed Pestilence
792
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Posted - 2014.07.06 23:48:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:Pete Butcher wrote: Given the things he posts, it's hard to imagine he does anything else in RL, besides sitting in front of a computer, hauling implants all the time. After all, he doesn't believe in any fun activities - everything should revolve around increasing an arbitrary virtual number. That's the meaning of life, you know...
Well, after all life can be summed up with a single arbitrary number: 42. All in all, it seems Gevlon is pulling a classic tactic of presenting vague fact with a lot of buzzwords (STATISTICS CONFIRM! NUMBERS SAY!) and drawing his own conclusion basing on incomplete data. Somewhat commonplace thing in tabloid journalism. Hell, he even fits the part where he claims TMC is a "propaganda mouthpiece" and presents his information as "THE STUFF GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW". He alone fills the vital role of ****** newspapers in New Eden, and reminds us all how much we need our morning dose of laughing at nonsensical conspiracies and sperg. Most of his claims are basic facts that are given an anti-cfc spin. For instance, a somewhat recent post about "Small gang being the bane of the CFC" claiming that, basing on recently accumulated data, "local" groups outdamage major coalitions in terms of fighting the CFC. It all sounds good and discovery-tastic until we look at the map and coalition logistics. At this time, coalition fights are rare - there's no reason to fight. Neither there is one to deploy across many regions to harass a group - so alliances and corporations that are close by will take the lead in damage. They are close by and want a fight, the local alliance likely wants a fight so one takes a few shots at the POS of another and we have a fight. Or someone gets dumb in his ratting ship and loses it to some ceptors because he didn't read intel. As it is with all raving maniacs, the way to actually deal with Goblin is to stop giving even a quarter of a ****. Not even read his posts, not respond, just let him flail his arms about in a funny manner and eventually get tired. That said, I doubt anyone around wants him gone - watching Gevlon Goblin post is like observing a terrible accident happen. You know it's sickening, you want to throw up and run away (preferably buy a bottle of something strong to wash away what you saw) but just can't stop watching. When is dinsdale going to team up with gelvon? New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
642
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Posted - 2014.07.07 02:11:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: When is dinsdale going to team up with gelvon?
Going by just his name and the amazing, recurring theme of "NULL CARTELS!", I'd say Dinsdale is just an amazingly funny troll. Now if he only dragged his brother Doug Piranha along in for the ride - I'm sure we'd be introduced to a new age of violence. I'm sure a few people would get their heads nailed to the floor.
I'd also call troll on Goblin a lot, to be frank, due to the way he contradicts himself and treats others. It all just seems like a case where you catch him, pull the mask off and zoinks - it was The Mittani all along!
Let's be fair - pulling some numbers out of your rear end and crunching them into an irrelevant graph is hardly any effort. Sprinkle some nonsense and sperg on top, spice up with some blog censorship and demonstrating far and wide how you "ignore the other people who are trolls!" and boom, you've got yourself a prime bait.
Now the only thing working against that theory, and - to be frank - a strong counter-argument - is that trolling is usually meant to upset people. A troll who steps up on the stage and actually entertains the crowd instead of causing unmeasurable quantities of rage is more of a comedian.
Well, if the entire venture - backed up with billions of ISK thrown away, countless people fooled (remember, he did lure cute newbies with the promise of fights to the Lemmings and then sold them away to toil in rat mines as renters. All because 'numbers said so' - it's like a psycho's excuse, 'voices tell me to flay my victims alive') - is one big scheme to break out as an amazing stand-up comedian... I'd say he gets my support. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |
VegasMirage
Under the Wings of Fury Space Warriors
1522
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Posted - 2014.07.07 06:19:00 -
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So many amazing things to do in life, reading this thread is one of them. no more games... it's real this time!!! |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1080
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Posted - 2014.07.07 09:11:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: When is dinsdale going to team up with gelvon?
Going by just his name and the amazing, recurring theme of "NULL CARTELS!", I'd say Dinsdale is just an amazingly funny troll. Now if he only dragged his brother Doug Piranha along in for the ride - I'm sure we'd be introduced to a new age of violence. I'm sure a few people would get their heads nailed to the floor. I'd also call troll on Goblin a lot, to be frank, due to the way he contradicts himself and treats others. It all just seems like a case where you catch him, pull the mask off and zoinks - it was The Mittani all along!
Gevlon the internet blogger pre-dates his EVE character. If I was to take anyone from the whole goblin story and unmask the Mittani it would be Tora, since Marmite literally ran with the cash, the alliance, the kills and the loot, which is a lot more ~spymasta~ like, and the mittani already has had a paid blog and now has a fullblown site, doesn't need a bad blog.
Also marmite is like any herd predator, which tend to promote survival amongst the fitter herd members, ie from my distance looking at the *effect* of marmite, its not hard to view it as something that could easily be "we'll kill our idiots before someone else does", which has the effects of discouraging vulnerable logistics, discouraging cfc characters living in highsec, which means that someone wanting to run missions and not be home to defend (or be deployed), will in fact leave their cfc character home or deployed and use an alt.
It also seemed to focus the grrrrrrr around something that can never kill the CFC. Lions never eat all the buffalo.
Dinsdale is his own special snowflake, and unfortunately he posted the horror that was his carebear method of smothering eve a few weeks ago, which is very different from Gevlon who at least believes in playing the game that is currently set out before us.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3416
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Posted - 2014.07.07 11:06:00 -
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Dinsdale, as round the bend as he is, has an internal logic and sticks to it. Unto itself, Dinsdale's argument is at least logically coherent, just not based in any facts. i.e. should any evidence ever come to light that proves anything he says, a lot of what he says would actually be sound.
Gevlon is motivated by a lot of psychological malodies he wants to think are below him: jealousy, hatred, a very strong inferiority complex. He's wrapped these up in denial and, I think, honestly believes his motivations are "pure" like any fanatic does. He seems to believe he can create the evidence that supports his wild ramblings, but when no one takes, he moves his goalposts and then tries to prove he can score in the new one. And then again. And then again. He's oblivious to the fact every new 'absolute' all-but completely disproves his own previous 'absolute' in doing so, destroying any internal logic to his manifesto and leaving him a bizarre figure flinging **** to see what sticks. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
824
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:27:00 -
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bump/Titan Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
267
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Posted - 2014.07.08 05:05:00 -
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"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion "Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science
The first gets you respect. The second gets you results. My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com |
Pete Butcher
Kiss My Shiny Metal Ass
184
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Posted - 2014.07.08 05:20:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion "Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science
The first gets you respect. The second gets you results.
Whoa, where did you get that? Science is stating a thesis and using observation and experiment to further refine, accept or drop it. You frantically make up stuff using flawed logic, do no accept any kind of criticism and assume you are always right. When reality proves how wrong you are, you just jump on to another assumption and prepare/misinterpret some data as its basis. What you do is the most irrational and anti-scientific way to approach problems. Ever heard of the scientific method? You should try it sometime. |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5475
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Posted - 2014.07.08 05:39:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = My blog
I have fixed your error because I'm a cool guy like that. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Cherry Yeyo
6
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Posted - 2014.07.08 06:27:00 -
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The new narrative is:
Ok I'm not hurting a coalition or an alliance but a handful of dudes lost like a bil, they might get mad and quit |
GOB the Magician
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.07.08 06:38:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion "Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science
The first gets you respect. The second gets you results.
you should run for CSM |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
266
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Posted - 2014.07.08 07:20:00 -
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GOB the Magician wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion "Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science
The first gets you respect. The second gets you results. you should run for CSM
I would love to see the CFC game Gevlon onto the CSM whether he wanted to or not, just so Mynnna, Sion and whoever else we rigged onto the board could hold him down and give him noogies at every meeting they all had.
edit: also I think getting in to the CSM because of CFC rigging would make him really really mad.
edit2: we could threaten CCP that we're going to force Gevlon onto the CSM unless they fix sov before the next election. Bet it'd be done in a fortnight. |
Dave Stark
6505
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Posted - 2014.07.08 07:25:00 -
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GOB the Magician wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion "Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science
The first gets you respect. The second gets you results. you should run for CSM
I'm not sure if this would be the most hilarious thing ever, or a complete disaster.
or, both. |
Maichin Civire
New Eden Possibilities
64
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Posted - 2014.07.08 07:33:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:GOB the Magician wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion "Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science
The first gets you respect. The second gets you results. you should run for CSM I would love to see the CFC game Gevlon onto the CSM whether he wanted to or not, just so Mynnna, Sion and whoever else we rigged onto the board could hold him down and give him noogies at every meeting they all had. edit: also I think getting in to the CSM because of CFC rigging would make him really really mad. edit2: we could threaten CCP that we're going to force Gevlon onto the CSM unless they fix sov before the next election. Bet it'd be done in a fortnight. These are really evil plans.
GG for CSM10! http://quietrebelwriting.blogspot.com/
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3648
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Posted - 2014.07.08 07:49:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science I think this pretty much explains why you are a moron. Maybe you should head back to school for some education, because science is not about running through every possible absurd guess and hoping that one day you might get something right.
And when are you going to realise that you've been "flinging poo" for years now, and nothing has ever stuck. Is this really going to be your life forever? That's a pretty sad existence my friend.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3416
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Posted - 2014.07.08 10:25:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion "Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science
The first gets you respect. The second gets you results.
ahahahahahhh
really
jesus h christ
'Science' is not 'flinging poo to see what sticks', and then claiming categorical absolutes, refusing to repeat, analyse, or examine your findings. It's not saying every piece of conflicting evidence is "just a troll". It's not ignoring arguments, logic and evidence that 100% refutes your conclusions and continuing to assume the same. It isn't blocking out every discenting opinion and saying "LALALALALAL CANT HEAR YOU SO I AM RIGHT!" It is not forming a conclusion, then finding two or three unrelated numbers, and claiming they prove it.
The only .. err .. 'type' I can think of where the following is true:
- Believe something - It's proof is a circular logic (we can't prove it therefore this is proof it exists / proof 'they' don't want us to know) - Evidence is simply a stated conclusion - Contains rhetoric based on absolutes
are cultists.
Gevlon, you are basically a cult of one.
Please, I am not trolling you, seek some help. If you have professional help, and you work out that your entire waking existence is best spent trying to convince people a loose group of gamers are evil, then carry on. But get the help first (because, surprise, surprise, doing this is not healthy). "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
266
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Posted - 2014.07.08 10:33:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Please, I am not trolling you, seek some help. If you have professional help, and you work out that your entire waking existence is best spent trying to convince people a loose group of gamers are evil, then carry on. But get the help first (because, surprise, surprise, doing this is not healthy).
Funny though. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
119
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Posted - 2014.07.08 11:21:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Gevlon Goblin wrote:"Logically coherent but not based on facts" = religion "Flinging poo and seeing what sticks" = science
The first gets you respect. The second gets you results. ahahahahahhh really jesus h christ 'Science' is not 'flinging poo to see what sticks', and then claiming categorical absolutes, refusing to repeat, analyse, or examine your findings. It's not saying every piece of conflicting evidence is "just a troll". It's not ignoring arguments, logic and evidence that 100% refutes your conclusions and continuing to assume the same. It isn't blocking out every discenting opinion and saying "LALALALALAL CANT HEAR YOU SO I AM RIGHT!" It is not forming a conclusion, then finding two or three unrelated numbers, and claiming they prove it. The only .. err .. 'type' I can think of where the following is true: - Believe something - It's proof is a circular logic (we can't prove it therefore this is proof it exists / proof 'they' don't want us to know) - Evidence is simply a stated conclusion - Contains rhetoric based on absolutes are cultists. Gevlon, you are basically a cult of one. Please, I am not trolling you, seek some help. If you have professional help, and you work out that your entire waking existence is best spent trying to convince people a loose group of gamers are evil, then carry on. But get the help first (because, surprise, surprise, doing this is not healthy).
Gevlon's motto is literally "sanity is for the weak". |
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