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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:19:07 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:CCP's lacklustre promotion of the CSM is the reason for that, nothing else. Voter apathy is different but it isn't linked to any one particular cause. It's a bit like quality assurance - if you've worked in software based product development - no one is interested in talking to you unless something bad is happening. Right now CCP isn't screwing up, so no one gives two hoots about their virtual union reps. Although I'm sure certain CSM members will be the first to tell you it's all their doing in a horribly smug self important post. I don't mean mynnna or sion either.
I know and I agree with you about quality assurance. I think you will agree with me when I say that just because there is no sign of rain in no way means all efforts on flood prevention should cease.
CCP is doing amazing right now because of CCP Seagull and her unprecedented vision. The CSM is still a valid and relevant mechanism. Just because CCP is being guided by some beautifully androgynous genius doesn't mean the CSM should stop restructuring itself for better function.
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Super Perforator
New Order Logistics CODE.
17
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:33:21 -
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Is ganking bad?
Stress? Just cool it...
A Diplomat for the New Order.
Praise James!
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
964
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:35:37 -
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Super Perforator wrote:Is ganking bad?
Ganking is an essential park of the game-play experience. I try not to look at things as right or wrong as they relate to the development of EvE Online. Attaching morality to a sandbox is very problematic if not toxic. At the player level you can believe whatever you want and act on those ideologies.
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Lanctharus Onzo
Alea Iacta Est Universal Brave Collective
46
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:55:35 -
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Well hello there!
My name is Lanctharus Onzo and I an one of the co-host and writers of the Cap Stable Podcast.
In early 2014 our podcast interviewed a great majority of the candidates for CSM9 and we will be doing the same for CSM10.
Here is our announcement: http://capstable.net/2014/12/01/council-of-stellar-management-x-call-for-candidate-interviews/
As we stated in the announcement, you can contact us to schedule your one on one interview via any of the following methods:
Email: [email protected] Twitter: @CapStable Or via our contact form
We look forward to speaking to you about your particular skill set and expertise in EVE Online and we hope you success in your candidacy.
Sincerely,
Lanctharus Onzo Co-host & Writer of the Cap Stable Podcast Military Director, Alea Iacta Est Universal
Writer, Co-host of the Cap Stable Podcast
Twitter: @Lanctharus
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
482
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Posted - 2014.12.02 14:56:31 -
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Xenuria wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:CCP's lacklustre promotion of the CSM is the reason for that, nothing else. Voter apathy is different but it isn't linked to any one particular cause. It's a bit like quality assurance - if you've worked in software based product development - no one is interested in talking to you unless something bad is happening. Right now CCP isn't screwing up, so no one gives two hoots about their virtual union reps. Although I'm sure certain CSM members will be the first to tell you it's all their doing in a horribly smug self important post. I don't mean mynnna or sion either. I know and I agree with you about quality assurance. I think you will agree with me when I say that just because there is no sign of rain in no way means all efforts on flood prevention should cease. CCP is doing amazing right now because of CCP Seagull and her unprecedented vision. The CSM is still a valid and relevant mechanism. Just because CCP is being guided by some beautifully androgynous genius doesn't mean the CSM should stop restructuring itself for better function.
You know that comment could be interpreted in several ways and not all of them particularly positive.
The CSM is still valid yes but what do you want to turn it into? It's just a player elected body to represent players. Where the CSM has problems is some of them think they're game designers and they've been elected to promote their ideas. The only reform really need is the people putting themselves up for election who fail to realise what the CSM actually is: Players representing other players and nothing more. In fact their are other ways of doing what the CSM does without actually having some elected body of self important players who constantly like to tell everyone else how important they are.
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Dradis Aulmais
Ignite Llc. V.L.A.S.T
13
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:36:27 -
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-1 for this thread
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
833
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Posted - 2014.12.03 13:32:50 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:The only reform really need is the people putting themselves up for election who fail to realise what the CSM actually is: Players representing other players and nothing more. In fact their are other ways of doing what the CSM does without actually having some elected body of self important players who constantly like to tell everyone else how important they are.
To be fair, the same could be said for any elected body. Unfortunately, those who run for almost any type of election (unless appointed to do so by others, and most times, even then) tend to be of the extremely self-important variety. Fortunately, the really important (albeit rare) qualifications for being a strong CSM candidate are fairly simple. -The ability to listen and comprehend. -The ability to effectively communicate the thoughts of one's constituents in a comprehensible and cohesive manner. -The free time and desire to do the above. -The work ethic to follow through on the aforementioned desire.
So far, I see 25% of that here. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2954
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Posted - 2014.12.03 19:39:06 -
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If only CSM was what I pay my subs for I would vote for you. But fortunately enough it isn't.
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
964
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Posted - 2014.12.04 17:05:57 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:The only reform really need is the people putting themselves up for election who fail to realise what the CSM actually is: Players representing other players and nothing more. In fact their are other ways of doing what the CSM does without actually having some elected body of self important players who constantly like to tell everyone else how important they are.
To be fair, the same could be said for any elected body. Unfortunately, those who run for almost any type of election (unless appointed to do so by others, and most times, even then) tend to be of the extremely self-important variety. Fortunately, the really important (albeit rare) qualifications for being a strong CSM candidate are fairly simple. -The ability to listen and comprehend. -The ability to effectively communicate the thoughts of one's constituents in a comprehensible and cohesive manner. -The free time and desire to do the above. -The work ethic to follow through on the aforementioned desire. So far, I see 25% of that here.
I think you aren't looking close enough. I meet all those criteria and then some. I am not an "Important Player" the whole point of EvE is that Anybody can potentially be anything. The chaotic viscosity of EvE as a sandbox allows for a "nobody" to rise to a higher purpose and then vanish into obscurity just as quickly.
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
71
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Posted - 2014.12.05 11:27:24 -
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Xenuria wrote:Term Limits, exploitable voting system, CFC affiliated, CSM reform, reform the way in which the CSM functions, restore faith in both the CSM and it's process, social elite
If you despise me or find me distasteful. Better the devil you know. If you are one of my supporters than this is an announcement you have been waiting for. If you are undecided or feel apathetic about this process than I would remind you that I am not the reason why you feel this way, but I just might be the solution.
I was going to ask you some serious questions on your stance on some things in the game like high sec, low sec, nullsec wormholes, faction warfare, industry, LP Stores, ship balancing and the like. But I have no idea what you do or were you live in eve. Your whole arguments for voting for you is people donGÇÖt like you and itGÇÖs not your fault people donGÇÖt like the csm so vote for me. Your campaign is about brining reform to the CSM without even saying what the problem is other than STV is bad and gerr goons, and you seem to have showed you have almost zero understanding of the whole STV system other than what you read on a wiki page one day.
Maybe you should start with what you like to do in eve and other than how the csm works what you would like to see change INSIDE the game rather than outside of it. Because the only bit that matters in EVE, is in EVE |
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
964
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Posted - 2014.12.06 14:45:32 -
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Tappits wrote:Xenuria wrote:Term Limits, exploitable voting system, CFC affiliated, CSM reform, reform the way in which the CSM functions, restore faith in both the CSM and it's process, social elite
If you despise me or find me distasteful. Better the devil you know. If you are one of my supporters than this is an announcement you have been waiting for. If you are undecided or feel apathetic about this process than I would remind you that I am not the reason why you feel this way, but I just might be the solution. I was going to ask you some serious questions on your stance on some things in the game like high sec, low sec, nullsec wormholes, faction warfare, industry, LP Stores, ship balancing and the like. But I have no idea what you do or were you live in eve. Your whole arguments for voting for you is people donGÇÖt like you and itGÇÖs not your fault people donGÇÖt like the csm so vote for me. Your campaign is about brining reform to the CSM without even saying what the problem is other than STV is bad and gerr goons, and you seem to have showed you have almost zero understanding of the whole STV system other than what you read on a wiki page one day. Maybe you should start with what you like to do in eve and other than how the csm works what you would like to see change INSIDE the game rather than outside of it. Because the only bit that matters in EVE, is in EVE
I am sorry that I am not coming across to you clearly. All systems need reform eventually, the CSM is no different. Reform and Restructuring is something I am good at.
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Hitamino
Better with Bovril The Bovril Collective
15
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Posted - 2014.12.11 12:15:39 -
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Xenuria wrote:I am sorry that I am not coming across to you clearly. All systems need reform eventually, the CSM is no different. Reform and Restructuring is something I am good at. Beyond the restructuring of the csm, which I'm not sure would really be a high priority, what would be your priorities for in game? The job of the csm is to act as a conduit between players and CCP. Having a sole focus of changing the way the csm works isn't doing that job.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2062
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:02:18 -
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Xenuria wrote:corebloodbrothers wrote:Xenuria wrote:You seem genuine albeit naive as I once was. I appreciate your input but I will persist in what I feel is right. Genuine and naive is what got me in csm If that were true I would have won a long time ago. You have to also support what your voters want. If you dislike the way the CSM itself is run and the way votes are cast, then you'll find the majority of your voters among those who already aren't voting. So to get more popularity, the best thing to do is to spread your campaign around the areas that are opposed to the CSM. You've got to get the word out to the right people.
Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance)
"What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
967
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Posted - 2014.12.13 17:20:53 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Xenuria wrote:corebloodbrothers wrote:Xenuria wrote:You seem genuine albeit naive as I once was. I appreciate your input but I will persist in what I feel is right. Genuine and naive is what got me in csm If that were true I would have won a long time ago. You have to also support what your voters want. If you dislike the way the CSM itself is run and the way votes are cast, then you'll find the majority of your voters among those who already aren't voting. So to get more popularity, the best thing to do is to spread your campaign around the areas that are opposed to the CSM. You've got to get the word out to the right people. Corebloodbrothers campaigned in support of NRDS, and gained votes by passing his campaign in front of Providence residents, for instance.
Good Advice.
Statistically 4-7% of the EvE Population is Female. 90%~ of my voting base is Female.
While I agree that I should expand my reach to those who have already given up on the system in terms of voting, I also think statistically it makes the most sense to dedicate the limited resources I have to the female eve demographic.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
970
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Posted - 2014.12.13 18:27:38 -
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So what exactly is your plan for reform?
Anyone can stand on a soap box and point at everyone else on their soap boxes and say they are doing it wrong so vote for me.
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Yharvis
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.12.13 18:35:11 -
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Xenuria wrote:Statistically 4-7% of the EvE Population is Female. 90%~ of my voting base is Female. Source?
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
967
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Posted - 2014.12.15 01:59:51 -
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Yharvis wrote:Xenuria wrote:Statistically 4-7% of the EvE Population is Female. 90%~ of my voting base is Female. Source?
It was posted on the screens at fanfest when I first saw the statistic. I will try and get a cite for you.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5710
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Posted - 2014.12.31 13:58:14 -
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Xenuria wrote:I am not very good with numbers so I am not in a good position to refute your essay on the subject matter. Maybe I missed something or overlooked something, it's very likely any time numbers are involved.
These seem like outstanding characteristics for CSM representation in a game all about numbers.
Why are you running again?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Market and Contract PVP
975
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Posted - 2014.12.31 19:18:47 -
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War Kitten wrote:Xenuria wrote:I am not very good with numbers so I am not in a good position to refute your essay on the subject matter. Maybe I missed something or overlooked something, it's very likely any time numbers are involved.
These seem like outstanding characteristics for CSM representation in a game all about numbers. Why are you running again? Please refer to the first post in the thread if you are having difficulty remembering why it is I am running.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15898
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Posted - 2015.01.01 00:53:45 -
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Xenuria wrote: Please refer to the first post in the thread if you are having difficulty remembering why it is I am running.
From the first post:
"If elected the single most important thing on my agenda is CSM reform."
You have been singularly uninformative about what exactly it is you intend to reform, and how.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Gonzala
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.01.03 00:45:09 -
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Xenuria wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:knobber Jobbler wrote:The only reform really need is the people putting themselves up for election who fail to realise what the CSM actually is: Players representing other players and nothing more. In fact their are other ways of doing what the CSM does without actually having some elected body of self important players who constantly like to tell everyone else how important they are.
To be fair, the same could be said for any elected body. Unfortunately, those who run for almost any type of election (unless appointed to do so by others, and most times, even then) tend to be of the extremely self-important variety. Fortunately, the really important (albeit rare) qualifications for being a strong CSM candidate are fairly simple. -The ability to listen and comprehend. -The ability to effectively communicate the thoughts of one's constituents in a comprehensible and cohesive manner. -The free time and desire to do the above. -The work ethic to follow through on the aforementioned desire. So far, I see 25% of that here. I think you aren't looking close enough. I meet all those criteria and then some. I am not an "Important Player" the whole point of EvE is that Anybody can potentially be anything. The chaotic viscosity of EvE as a sandbox allows for a "nobody" to rise to a higher purpose and then vanish into obscurity just as quickly. How close do I have to look I shouldn't have to dig through junk to find those 4 things. Btw your soundcloud with test was atrocious why are you really going for CSM? |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2164
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Posted - 2015.01.03 05:44:47 -
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Xenuria wrote:Good Advice.
Statistically 4-7% of the EvE Population is Female. 90%~ of my voting base is Female.
While I agree that I should expand my reach to those who have already given up on the system in terms of voting, I also think statistically it makes the most sense to dedicate the limited resources I have to the female eve demographic. Why do you think that 90% of your voting base is female? I ask this both to ascertain the evidence leading to your belief of such, and to prompt you to consider what may have caused it to happen. And I'm not trying to get you to tell me, but I want you to ask yourself this.
Perhaps your message is something that more people than just female EVE Online players can agree with; maybe there is a way to bring this message to them in a way that will get them to agree with it?
Speaking of your message, what is it, exactly? I have read your OP and I still don't get it. Can you summarize it for me?
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ChYph3r
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
139
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Posted - 2015.01.03 06:42:17 -
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Xenuria wrote: I am not very good
nuff said
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Pandora Myuki
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2015.01.03 15:46:54 -
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Click link. https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Xenuria enough said |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.01.03 18:03:32 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
975
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Posted - 2015.01.05 18:37:28 -
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I am going to clarify some things in hopes to avoid distractions.
Advocating for CSM reform is in the context of my platform apolitical. You don't need to be a veteran eve player to understand that my allegiances are to my own values. My corp history is indicative of that. When I say that I want to "Change" Policy I am refering specifically too the CSM whitepaper.
As referenced before the CSM is not at any point during campaigning required to tell the truth. They are also not prohibited from "buying" votes. The extreme of this being spending real life money to buy eve accounts ahead of the deadline for the sole purpose of padding the voting process.
It's very easy for opponents of my platform to ask "how would you solve it".
What I think they don't understand is that the CSM is not 1 person with absolute authority making decisions on what to do about the game.
The CSM is a group of people consulting with CCP and advocating collectively for changes and ideas they feel are important. Asking me in any specificity how I would "fix" or "solve" a problem assumes that any 1 person can walk into the room, press the right button and all will be well. My platform is incongruous with any mentality that a single person should without oversight be able to make a judgment call and subsequently execute the consequences of that judgment.
The flaws in the current voting system not only allow for such outcomes but incentives them.
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Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
2231
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Posted - 2015.01.06 04:13:43 -
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Xenuria wrote:I am going to clarify some things in hopes to avoid distractions.
Advocating for CSM reform is in the context of my platform apolitical. You don't need to be a veteran eve player to understand that my allegiances are to my own values. My corp history is indicative of that. When I say that I want to "Change" Policy I am refering specifically too the CSM whitepaper.
As referenced before the CSM is not at any point during campaigning required to tell the truth. They are also not prohibited from "buying" votes. The extreme of this being spending real life money to buy eve accounts ahead of the deadline for the sole purpose of padding the voting process.
It's very easy for opponents of my platform to ask "how would you solve it".
What I think they don't understand is that the CSM is not 1 person with absolute authority making decisions on what to do about the game.
The CSM is a group of people consulting with CCP and advocating collectively for changes and ideas they feel are important. Asking me in any specificity how I would "fix" or "solve" a problem assumes that any 1 person can walk into the room, press the right button and all will be well. My platform is incongruous with any mentality that a single person should without oversight be able to make a judgment call and subsequently execute the consequences of that judgment.
The flaws in the current voting system not only allow for such outcomes but incentives them.
This looks like a no win situation. If you get elected it proves the system does work (contrary to your premise) and so the reform would not be needed. If you are not elected then your premise may or may not be a fault but you will be unable to do anything about it.
We have made the White Paper a living document to allow for changes to be made, year by year as the CSM grows/changes/evolves so if elected you are welcome to try for election reform but as you said, above, you cannot walk in and push a button, you will need the cooperation of other members of the CSM and of CCP to effect any long lasting changes.
Politicians can lie? Well, yes they can and probably do. Me, I like Twains thoughts on truth http://www.twainquotes.com/Truth.html but others may have their own way of doing things. You can rail against the process as it now stands but in the end, X, you have to win or lose by these rules as they are.
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Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2184
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Posted - 2015.01.06 13:29:01 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:This looks like a no win situation. If you get elected it proves the system does work (contrary to your premise) and so the reform would not be needed. If you are not elected then your premise may or may not be a fault but you will be unable to do anything about it. It's a slim chance, but there are times in a rigged supposedly-representative system in which the majority may briefly come to agree on a point of contention and use the broken voting system for an act of upheaval.
While I disagree with Xenuria on there being said problem in place, I believe she has the right to fight behind such a reform movement. I see no harm coming from it, as even in the case that it is successful, it is most likely only representative of a deeper dissatisfaction in the voters over how the system works. Even if these voters are misguided as to the specifics of what is wrong with the system, they still help to reveal the discontent.
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ChYph3r
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
143
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:08:06 -
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Just face it dude, no one wants you, or your ignorance or banter, on the CSM.
Want to find all the podcasts around EVE Online visit
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
976
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:31:57 -
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ChYph3r wrote:Just face it dude, no one wants you, or your ignorance or banter, on the CSM.
Do you have anything constructive to add to the discussion?
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