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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
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Posted - 2015.01.07 03:31:17 -
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Yharvis wrote:Xenuria wrote:Statistically 4-7% of the EvE Population is Female. 90%~ of my voting base is Female. Source? Source?
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Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
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Posted - 2015.01.07 03:55:38 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:Yharvis wrote:Xenuria wrote:Statistically 4-7% of the EvE Population is Female. 90%~ of my voting base is Female. Source? Source?
The first half may be accurate, I have a lot of doubt that the latter part of the statement is provable given secret balloting.
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Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
1165
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Posted - 2015.01.07 05:45:17 -
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Xenuria wrote:Statistically 4-7% of the EvE Population is Female. 90%~ of my voting base is Female.
Source:
Xenuria wrote:I am not very good with numbers so I am not in a good position to refute your essay on the subject matter. Maybe I missed something or overlooked something, it's very likely any time numbers are involved.
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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
1891
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Posted - 2015.01.07 10:06:58 -
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Thanks, Mike and Asay. You boys are always the real MVP's. Honestly couldn't imagine anyone having a 90% female voting base after seeing that smoked sardine video. Good luck on your campaign, Xenuria. Honestly can say that if you get elected, I'll be more inclined to read the summit minutes in a single sitting.
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Schwa Nuts
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.07 13:46:01 -
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Not that you are expecting my vote, but sadly I cannot vote for you. Your stated campaign platform is to dramatically change the CSM to the point where many current CSM members would not be elected. Unfortunately for you, I like a lot of our current CSM members. |
amber mbd
9
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Posted - 2015.01.07 20:48:44 -
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Xenuria wrote:ChYph3r wrote:Just face it dude, no one wants you, or your ignorance or banter, on the CSM. Do you have anything constructive to add to the discussion?
everything you've posted has been deflecting direct questions and attacking people who ask them, ie non-constructive things, so why should anyone else have anyting constructive to add? |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
976
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Posted - 2015.01.07 23:14:18 -
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amber mbd wrote:Xenuria wrote:ChYph3r wrote:Just face it dude, no one wants you, or your ignorance or banter, on the CSM. Do you have anything constructive to add to the discussion? everything you've posted has been deflecting direct questions and attacking people who ask them, ie non-constructive things, so why should anyone else have anyting constructive to add? Please post with your main.
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amber mbd
9
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Posted - 2015.01.08 04:33:02 -
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Xenuria wrote:amber mbd wrote:Xenuria wrote:ChYph3r wrote:Just face it dude, no one wants you, or your ignorance or banter, on the CSM. Do you have anything constructive to add to the discussion? everything you've posted has been deflecting direct questions and attacking people who ask them, ie non-constructive things, so why should anyone else have anyting constructive to add? Please post with your main. thanks for making my point bro o7 |
HarlyQ
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2015.01.10 07:37:37 -
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Xenuria wrote:amber mbd wrote:Xenuria wrote:ChYph3r wrote:Just face it dude, no one wants you, or your ignorance or banter, on the CSM. Do you have anything constructive to add to the discussion? everything you've posted has been deflecting direct questions and attacking people who ask them, ie non-constructive things, so why should anyone else have anyting constructive to add? Please post with your main. Maybe you should just respond to people's questions and statements instead of saying post with your main or how about giving accurate sources for your statements or how about not making up random BS to try and make you look good. No one will vote for a lying sack of dung.
hey xenuria post like a man.
Also why can you not stay with a corp very long? |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1695
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Posted - 2015.01.10 16:17:16 -
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HarlyQ wrote:Xenuria wrote:amber mbd wrote:Xenuria wrote:ChYph3r wrote:Just face it dude, no one wants you, or your ignorance or banter, on the CSM. Do you have anything constructive to add to the discussion? everything you've posted has been deflecting direct questions and attacking people who ask them, ie non-constructive things, so why should anyone else have anyting constructive to add? Please post with your main. Maybe you should just respond to people's questions and statements instead of saying post with your main or how about giving accurate sources for your statements or how about not making up random BS to try and make you look good. No one will vote for a lying sack of dung. hey xenuria post like a man. Also why can you not stay with a corp very long? Xenuria cant stay with a corp very long because Xenuria has personality conflict issues. Xenuria doesnt get along well with anyone, just a matter of Xenuria being Xenuria, which is only appropriate company for Xenuria. Xenuria hasnt undergone the years of training required for one's of Xenurias nature to acclimate with normal society to a functional degree.
(And so i can stop typing Xenuria, what do you prefer to identify as? He/She/It/Fox/Walrus/Klingon/Wookiee/Visitor/Munchkin? Just dont want any miscommunications) |
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect
507
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Posted - 2015.01.10 17:46:04 -
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Maybe this is a good thing but I honestly have no idea who you are Xenuria. So my question is, why do you feel like there is such a strong numbered group of people that seemingly despises you? Again I'm only asking because I have no idea.
I've encountered myself groups of people that flat out contradict me simply because I write a few lines of text on EN24. Being in a "somewhat" public light encourages some people to be asshats to me. "Hey people know that guy! Watch this, i'm going to totally tell him off." However I'm not sure that is the case here.
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
976
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Posted - 2015.01.10 20:38:44 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Maybe this is a good thing but I honestly have no idea who you are Xenuria. So my question is, why do you feel like there is such a strong numbered group of people that seemingly despises you? Again I'm only asking because I have no idea.
I've encountered myself groups of people that flat out contradict me simply because I write a few lines of text on EN24. Being in a "somewhat" public light encourages some people to be asshats to me. "Hey people know that guy! Watch this, i'm going to totally tell him off." However I'm not sure that is the case here.
It's mostly that, EvE Online is like any other game where people are given anonymity and a voice. The difference is eve is brutal and harsh. This mentality encourages people to attack that which they fear or don't understand. I am controversial in no small part because I cannot be bribed or bought off. I represent a clear and sustained threat to the system as it exists in it's present form. This concerns people.
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
(And so i can stop typing Xenuria, what do you prefer to identify as? He/She/It/Fox/Walrus/Klingon/Wookiee/Visitor/Munchkin? Just dont want any miscommunications)
Ultimately the pronouns used don't bother me but I prefer feminine pronouns in the context of EvE.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2201
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Posted - 2015.01.11 05:34:08 -
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Xenuria wrote:It's mostly that, EvE Online is like any other game where people are given anonymity and a voice. The difference is eve is brutal and harsh. This mentality encourages people to attack that which they fear or don't understand. I am controversial in no small part because I cannot be bribed or bought off. I represent a clear and sustained threat to the system as it exists in it's present form. This concerns people. I really don't think it does concern people that you can't be bought or bribed. Every once in a while one individual may get ticked off by it, while the majority of the community will ignore such actions as trivial. You can call immunity to attacks all you want, and the people with power will continue to have successful attacks on others while ignoring you. They do not worry that your mentality will spread, as well they shouldn't. People immune to attacks like you and I are few and far between, and nothing will ever change that. The vast majority of the population even in this game are highly vulnerable to others by subconscious or instinctive choice and they refuse to address the basal nature which drives them to be that way, instead preferring to assume it cannot be understood or controlled. We are powerless to change their view on the subject because they don't understand it and they don't want to.
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Cheese Crackers
Death Stroke Undertaking
25
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Posted - 2015.01.11 07:01:15 -
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Xenuria wrote:[ If you are unwilling to read the OP or any of the subsequent posts answering the questions your asking than I really have nothing to say to you. At best your lazy, at worst you are attempting to derail the conversation by asking questions I have already answered.
Any candidate in any election should answer every question asked to the fullest extent no matter how many times it has been repeated. This is because not everyone is the same as you and so may need the information in a different light to get the best understanding and as to maybe get a vote from a satisfied character. That is also how you are constructive even when faced with trolls as it can show that you can actually help someone and can be respectful, even if they are not. I have spent the time reading through this tread and it leads me to believe you have taken little time to look at other threads to understand how to approach those who ultimately vote in the election. Your right about possibly being the underdog but you don't win people over by calling them lazy for asking you to repeat your material for which you have based this campaign on as they may not understand it in way way you first wrote it. In my eyes you are the lazy one.
I have kept this post as constructive as my gritted teeth will allow it and will leave the post with one more idea that may or may not turn this train wreck of a campaign around. Go through all of the questions asked and answer them like it was the first time hearing of them and do it with respect and just maybe you will win more votes.
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corbexx
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
1157
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Posted - 2015.01.11 09:32:33 -
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Can you give me some of your thoughts on exactly what you want to do to change the csm. I'd really like to hear some specific details on this.
I do worry about the way you reply to some peoples stuff, Lets say you get on the csm, lets say you do put forward your ideas. Now considering we post in several places, CCP's confluence and also in multiple places on these forums. Some times people don't see stuff (I've had to re link stuff to people a fair few times), and your reply to someone from ccp is.
Xenuria wrote: If you are unwilling to read the OP or any of the subsequent posts answering the questions your asking than I really have nothing to say to you. At best your lazy, at worst you are attempting to derail the conversation by asking questions I have already answered.
Do you really think thats going to help you get stuff sorted? Knowing how to talk and communicate plays a huge part of what we do, and i'm sorry but you seem to really struggle on this.
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1696
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Posted - 2015.01.11 15:11:47 -
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corbexx wrote:Xenuria wrote: If you are unwilling to read the OP or any of the subsequent posts answering the questions your asking than I really have nothing to say to you. At best your lazy, at worst you are attempting to derail the conversation by asking questions I have already answered.
Do you really think thats going to help you get stuff sorted? Knowing how to talk and communicate plays a huge part of what we do, and i'm sorry but you seem to really struggle on this. thats the same attititude that makes 'her' hated in EVE, not the "i cant be bought off" bit, but the "look at my opinions and worship them, if you disagree you arent worth my time to acknowledge because im superior!" schtick 'shes' been running for the last several years
fact is simple, Xenuria has ruined their reputation in EVE on thsi character to the point that A german has better chances of being eleceted to the head of Israeli government than Xenuria does getting onto the CSM |
Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
2830
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:58:18 -
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What do you stand for? Who do you represent?
You say the CSM needs to be remade or reorganized, but why exactly? I've yet to see a single other gaming company do something like this. It's unprecedented as far as I know and I would like to understand why on earth you think it's so bad as is. You've thrown around stats and made claims without anything to back them up. I, and I'd wager a majority of other players, will not vote for you based off of that alone.
Your answers to other people don't inspire confidence, if you can't answer a question you don't like, and instead attempt to dismiss the person asking, you have no business representing anyone.
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Protovarious
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
27
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Posted - 2015.01.11 20:27:22 -
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Azda Ja wrote:What do you stand for? Who do you represent?
You say the CSM needs to be remade or reorganized, but why exactly? I've yet to see a single other gaming company do something like this. It's unprecedented as far as I know and I would like to understand why on earth you think it's so bad as is. You've thrown around stats and made claims without anything to back them up. I, and I'd wager a majority of other players, will not vote for you based off of that alone.
Your answers to other people don't inspire confidence, if you can't answer a question you don't like, and instead attempt to dismiss the person asking, you have no business representing anyone.
I'm going to echo this until the mountains rattle. This kind of pie-in-the-sky approach to getting on the CSM was all the rage a few years ago. A CSM seat was looked upon as a arbitrary obligation that CCP had to fill and everyone with an axe to grind was simply led by that alone - a perceived chance to rage and if you didn't agree with the rage, you were somehow less "enlightened"
This is CSM number 10. The relationship between CCP and the Council has evolved and continues to improve. People see this and are conscious of the importance of having candidates who are communicative, focussed, and have the personal skills to wade through the unreasonable to reach the reasonable.
As Simon Cowell once said, "It's a no from me."
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
977
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Posted - 2015.01.11 22:52:23 -
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At this point I am just going to outright ignore posts that are asking questions which I have already in this very thread answered specifically. These kinds of distraction tactics won't work here and the simple fact they are being attempted is indicative of my success as a candidate.
With that said, if anybody has a question I haven't already answered repeatedly please post it.
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Cheese Crackers
Death Stroke Undertaking
28
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Posted - 2015.01.11 23:15:06 -
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Can I just throw it out there Xenuria should get some form of best troll award because day in and day out we get pulled in to posting here and day in and day out he just blatantly trolls us with answers even a 12 year old would know not to put if you wanted to get anywhere with this. I applaud you and its been great fun watching you keep up the act..... wait... it's not an act? oh god. |
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HarlyQ
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2015.01.11 23:25:25 -
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So you're whole idea is that the CSM needs reform. Show me how the system is broken in the first place. Then show me how your supposedly going to fix it.
Oh when I say show I mean give me proof, not by saying null blocs have power and they shouldn't. Give me evidence to back your claims. |
Lanctharus Onzo
Alea Iacta Est Universal Brave Collective
80
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Posted - 2015.01.12 06:39:20 -
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CSMX Interview http://capstable.net/2015/01/12/xenuria/
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
2837
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Posted - 2015.01.12 06:45:53 -
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Xenuria wrote:At this point I am just going to outright ignore posts that are asking questions which I have already in this very thread answered specifically.
I rest my case.
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Synthec
Collapsed Out Overload Everything
12
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:26:15 -
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After hearing that podcast interview... hahaha no way |
Synthec
Collapsed Out Overload Everything
12
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Posted - 2015.01.12 14:29:18 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:Yharvis wrote:Xenuria wrote:Statistically 4-7% of the EvE Population is Female. 90%~ of my voting base is Female. Source? Source?
Bunch of information he can't put sources to.. |
Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
977
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Posted - 2015.01.12 17:33:34 -
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Synthec wrote:After hearing that podcast interview... hahaha no way Clearly members of OE are not my target audience. Recent API leaks and internal drama aside...
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2201
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Posted - 2015.01.12 18:58:04 -
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Xenuria wrote:At this point I am just going to outright ignore posts that are asking questions which I have already in this very thread answered specifically.
Perhaps I can provide an example of an answer. I will take the antagonist position in the debate and attempt to demonstrate that the CSM is good and does not have any drawbacks. I am debating against Xenuria's claims, as an example of how to do a proper demonstration of a point. My specific point will be to suggest that the voting system that is used by the CSM negates political treachery rather than facilitates it.
My first attempt to persuade my audience will come in the form of a brief explanation of the voting system: The Council of Stellar Management in EVE Online uses the Single Transferable Vote (STV) system to distribute votes to the candidates. In this system, each voter selects several candidates and ranks them in order of choice, from 1 (most important) and down. Each player only gets to use one vote but when the votes are tallied, a player's vote only counts toward a winning candidate. Their vote will be automatically transferred to a candidate ranked lower in their list as needed to ensure their vote counts.
This prevents the old "Go ahead, throw away your vote!" mentality from preventing tertiary parties from getting votes. Should the voters be interested in a new candidate, they can freely rank the candidate on their list without giving up the chance to vote on the lesser of two evils should it become the only option.
My second attempt to persuade my audience will come in the form of examples in which the system has demonstrated itself: The Single Transferable Vote system has seen real-world use in several countries, including the UK, the Republic of Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, and more recently, in Iceland. These nations have seen a staggering change in politics with the introduction of STV, with fresh new candidates cycling in and pushing out the old and unwanted parties, and with politicians learning that they must address the concerns of their voters, since merely defaming the competition is no longer a successful method of collecting votes.
This contrasts starkly with two-party systems in nations not using STV, such as the USA or Canada. These countries see a wide variety of new and interesting candidacies die quickly since everyone is afraid to vote for anyone but one of the two primary candidates. It fuels hatred and animosity between supporters of either party, while all of the voters begin to feel trapped and powerless to effect change in their failing economy.
Note how I have made separations and highlights in my post to make it easier to read and digest. It is also clear and direct. Not everyone will understand it or believe it, but it both states my position in the debate and provides others with my reasoning for my position. This is a reasonable starting point but I still need to be prepared to answer questions asked about my position, even if I have answered them previously. If they didn't understand it the first time, either I have not described it in a way they understand, or I have hidden it too deeply in my rant and they have failed to locate it.
What I suggest for you, Xenuria, is to write up a campaign letter similar to mine, only in reverse. State clearly what specific problems you see with the system, then give examples that suggest your position is correct. Now I realize you have stated that the voting system caters to nullblocs and have used the prevalence of Goonswarm candidates as a supporting example, but you have not yet presented this in a clear and concise manner. Try writing it in the format I used above, or something similar and equally clear.
Then you are strongly recommended to finish with an explanation of how you intend to solve the problem. If voters are to take you seriously as a candidate, they need to know that you not only agree with them but that you are going to support them. Recognizing the problem is not enough by itself. If you do not yet have a functional solution, perhaps your answer can be that once elected, you intend to present your evidence of corruption first-hand to the candidates of the CSM and work closely with them to explore other possibilities, pushing minor changes as they are discovered to gradually reform the system.
Ultimately you need to convince your potential voters that if you won a seat on the CSM, your presence there would have a positive impact on EVE.
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Xenuria
The Scope Gallente Federation
978
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Posted - 2015.01.12 20:46:53 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Xenuria wrote:At this point I am just going to outright ignore posts that are asking questions which I have already in this very thread answered specifically. Perhaps I can provide an example of an answer. I will take the antagonist position in the debate and attempt to demonstrate that the CSM is good and does not have any drawbacks. I am debating against Xenuria's claims, as an example of how to do a proper demonstration of a point. My specific point will be to suggest that the voting system that is used by the CSM negates political treachery rather than facilitates it. My first attempt to persuade my audience will come in the form of a brief explanation of the voting system:The Council of Stellar Management in EVE Online uses the Single Transferable Vote (STV) system to distribute votes to the candidates. In this system, each voter selects several candidates and ranks them in order of choice, from 1 (most important) and down. Each player only gets to use one vote but when the votes are tallied, a player's vote only counts toward a winning candidate. Their vote will be automatically transferred to a candidate ranked lower in their list as needed to ensure their vote counts. This prevents the old "Go ahead, throw away your vote!" mentality from preventing tertiary parties from getting votes. Should the voters be interested in a new candidate, they can freely rank the candidate on their list without giving up the chance to vote on the lesser of two evils should it become the only option. My second attempt to persuade my audience will come in the form of examples in which the system has demonstrated itself:The Single Transferable Vote system has seen real-world use in several countries, including the UK, the Republic of Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, and more recently, in Iceland. These nations have seen a staggering change in politics with the introduction of STV, with fresh new candidates cycling in and pushing out the old and unwanted parties, and with politicians learning that they must address the concerns of their voters, since merely defaming the competition is no longer a successful method of collecting votes. This contrasts starkly with two-party systems in nations not using STV, such as the USA or Canada. These countries see a wide variety of new and interesting candidacies die quickly since everyone is afraid to vote for anyone but one of the two primary candidates. It fuels hatred and animosity between supporters of either party, while all of the voters begin to feel trapped and powerless to effect change in their failing economy. Note how I have made separations and highlights in my post to make it easier to read and digest. It is also clear and direct. Not everyone will understand it or believe it, but it both states my position in the debate and provides others with my reasoning for my position. This is a reasonable starting point but I still need to be prepared to answer questions asked about my position, even if I have answered them previously. If they didn't understand it the first time, either I have not described it in a way they understand, or I have hidden it too deeply in my rant and they have failed to locate it. What I suggest for you, Xenuria, is to write up a campaign letter similar to mine, only in reverse. State clearly what specific problems you see with the system, then give examples that suggest your position is correct. Now I realize you have stated that the voting system caters to nullblocs and have used the prevalence of Goonswarm candidates as a supporting example, but you have not yet presented this in a clear and concise manner. Try writing it in the format I used above, or something similar and equally clear. Then you are strongly recommended to finish with an explanation of how you intend to solve the problem. If voters are to take you seriously as a candidate, they need to know that you not only agree with them but that you are going to support them. Recognizing the problem is not enough by itself. If you do not yet have a functional solution, perhaps your answer can be that once elected, you intend to present your evidence of corruption first-hand to the candidates of the CSM and work closely with them to explore other possibilities, pushing minor changes as they are discovered to gradually reform the system. Ultimately you need to convince your potential voters that if you won a seat on the CSM, your presence there would have a positive impact on EVE.
My platform does not rest solely in vote reform. I think where people are getting confused is they think the vote system is the only thing I wish to change. If they bothered to read the OP they would know it's more that that. I have consulted with my peers and the general consensus is that most of these posters are trolling and trying to bait an argument. As a tactic it works well in spoken debates but when the answers are in text the tactic falls apart. I appreciate you trying to help but I assure you that I don't need any in this context. The people who actually care to know my stances can read them.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2203
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Posted - 2015.01.12 20:53:22 -
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You're too busy assuming these people are trolling and not putting enough time and energy into listening to them. I don't think you read my post very carefully. I mentioned the voting system as an example but my real point was that you haven't formulated your points in a way that makes them easy for people to understand and respond to. Your entire stance on your issues are difficult to decipher as even the issues you present are unclear.
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Nostromo Fidanza
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.01.12 21:31:30 -
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Xenuria wrote:corebloodbrothers wrote:Xenuria wrote:corebloodbrothers wrote:If u run, run on your own merits, rather then pointing at others, acuse them of things u know little about. Run on strenghts of the things u represent, rather then point fingers
I am a first time csm member and am certainly not goon nor n3 affiliated. I am highly impressed how the current csm members from blocks represent eve and its future. I see goon csm members promoting changes that would them no good in the shirt term, but benefit a game as a whole. I see them debate hard, work hard. I see csm members spend countless hours on thr past crius change, crunching numbers, spreadsheets, working for a change focused on industry, as a platform for eve s future. With seagull ponting at changes in null sec i can tell you thr amount of open ideas, block or non block arr all focused on eve s future, not what block u came from. A dead eve holds no blocks, not even pixels
Dont reform for the sake of it, run cause u represent people and ideas that a majority feels u represent best, then u get votes.
Goodluck on your campaign You seem genuine albeit naive as I once was. I appreciate your input but I will persist in what I feel is right. Genuine and naive is what got me in csm If that were true I would have won a long time ago.
You haven't exactly endeared yourself to the Eve Community. That Cap Stable interviewed was awkward to borderline hostile. Might have something to do with it. |
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