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Greckor Arrkana
Rapture of Eden
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Posted - 2014.05.26 14:58:00 -
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Currently the cost of Plex is nowhere near fair for all members of the community. Looking at amazon currently the cost of 6 Plex is substantially disproportionately cheap for all american players.
USA: $104.97 Germany: Gé¼89.99 ($122.77) UK: -ú89.99 ($151.59)
On average the Americans save $32.21, anyone purchasing plex to increase there ISK is surely at an advantage if they are american. And considering this is a global server this certainly isn't fair on all members of the community. ( Which is why buying ISK outwith CCP is against rules)
If someone could explain why? Or even include the cost in their currency which isn't there. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2014.05.26 14:59:00 -
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VAT is a *****. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:00:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:If someone could explain why? Because Amazon is evil?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Solely Project
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:01:00 -
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This has been talked about already over and over again!
If you cared about knowing instead of ranting, you would've used google!
Try it! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:03:00 -
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Some has the statistics for average income? Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:03:00 -
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-ú>$ "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
Winchester Steele
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:04:00 -
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What a new and interesting topic that has never ever been discussed here before. ... |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:12:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote: isn't fair
I agree
Lets make it fair then, shall we?
CCP! We demand you increase all PLEX to the most expensive rate IMMEADIATELY! "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
Greckor Arrkana
Rapture of Eden
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:13:00 -
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You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:15:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!
Edit: And to those who do help, thanks.
Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity?
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:17:00 -
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I suggest you write your MP, or whatever passes for a Congressman in Germany.
Because their weird intra-EU tariffs are your most likely culprit.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Greckor Arrkana
Rapture of Eden
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:20:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Greckor Arrkana wrote:You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!
Edit: And to those who do help, thanks. Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity?
Removing VAT from the equation it is still -ú74.99. Vat isn't -ú30. |
Solace Project
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:22:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!
Edit: And to those who do help, thanks. You have done nothing to help yourself, else you wouldn't have started this thread. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:23:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Greckor Arrkana wrote:You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!
Edit: And to those who do help, thanks. Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity? Removing VAT from the equation it is still -ú74.99. Vat isn't -ú30.
Actually it would be -ú72
And that's not what I said or meant
$/-ú/Eurobuck prices always differ widely
Why should PLEX be any different?
Also no need to get rude with us. You asked a question that none of us have a definative answer to (as we dont work for CCP) and then you call us unhelpful when we make our suggestions. "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:31:00 -
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pretty sure it's because prices in $ never include the relevant sales taxes etc. |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:41:00 -
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Blame your government, not CCP. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:54:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:Currently the cost of Plex is nowhere near fair for all members of the community. Looking at amazon currently the cost of 6 Plex is substantially disproportionately cheap for all american players.
USA: $104.97 Germany: Gé¼89.99 ($122.77) UK: -ú89.99 ($151.59)
On average the Americans save $32.21, anyone purchasing plex to increase there ISK is surely at an advantage if they are american. And considering this is a global server this certainly isn't fair on all members of the community. ( Which is why buying ISK outwith CCP is against rules)
If someone could explain why? Or even include the cost in their currency which isn't there.
CCP do not control or set amazon's prices, they buy PLEX from us, then resell at their own prices.
As for the discrepancy between US and EU prices, by law EU prices have to be advertised inclusive of VAT, this is anywhere between 12-27% depending on the country you're buying in.
US Prices do not have to be advertised with state/federal sales tax included, this is why the prices appear lower.
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Greckor Arrkana
Rapture of Eden
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:55:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Greckor Arrkana wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Greckor Arrkana wrote:You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!
Edit: And to those who do help, thanks. Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity? Removing VAT from the equation it is still -ú74.99. Vat isn't -ú30. Actually it would be -ú72 And that's not what I said or meant $/-ú/Eurobuck prices always differ widely Why should PLEX be any different? Also no need to get rude with us. You asked a question that none of us have a definative answer to (as we dont work for CCP) and then you call us unhelpful when we make our suggestions.
You are being helpful. Even the person telling me to google it is helpful. I realize this is a commonly raised issue. And that you guys must get bored answering the same question. But i am confused in the need of comments referring to the originality. I am sure that you could read the first line a realise that i am a massive idiot and not decide to comment. I understand and really don't care. Useless comments (Which clearly is ironic for me to say) is where that response was aimed.
Regarding the fact that prices do vary i completely agree. But you are talking about ISK, a separate virtual currency. So there should be an exchange rate for:
USD> ISK 6668571.97294 EURO>ISK 5701718.66091 GBP>ISP 4617718.84689
Average: 5662669.82691
On average exchange rate: USA: +15.08% GER: +0.68% UK: -22.6%
These differences are substantial! And there are plenty of examples of prices remaining balances through exchange rates. For example steam is rather good at this.
EDIT: Thanks for the answer CCP Falcon |
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CCP Falcon
7248
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Posted - 2014.05.26 15:58:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:EDIT: Thanks for the answer CCP Falcon
No worries! xD
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Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.26 16:00:00 -
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get a proxy that shows your in the US and buy at the lower rate? not sure if thats legal though as your kinda avoiding the tax you should pay |
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Greckor Arrkana
Rapture of Eden
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Posted - 2014.05.26 16:04:00 -
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Emma Muutaras wrote:get a proxy that shows your in the US and buy at the lower rate? not sure if thats legal though as your kinda avoiding the tax you should pay
Have to use american payment method. Doesn't work with paypal or my card :( |
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
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Posted - 2014.05.26 16:18:00 -
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Plex are way overpriced anyway,
You can buy a years subscription for -ú89.99.
But for the same price you only get 6 months worth of Plex.
If you buy ETC from shatteredCrystal.com and then convert the ETC ingame to plax you get them for Gé¼76.91 or -ú62.32. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
376
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Posted - 2014.05.26 19:00:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:But you are talking about ISK, a separate VIRTUAL currency. Highlighted the important part. |
John Ending
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.26 19:05:00 -
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USA #1 |
Marsha Mallow
756
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Posted - 2014.05.26 19:06:00 -
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There should be an explanation about pricing somewhere on the knowledgebase. I've just had a quick look and it's not mentioned.
It does look unfair from a UK/EU perspective, particularly when Amazon run promos we can't access (and slip up and price them at 10% of the price they intended) :P If there's no permenant/official clarification on the available Wiki/knowledgebase these queries will just keep rolling in. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
ElSuerte Diego
Elysian. Heiian Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.05.26 19:41:00 -
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I'm kinda surprised that nobody's tried to arbitrage this. |
Cypherous
Evil Monkey Asylum Exploding Supremacy
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Posted - 2014.05.26 19:56:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Greckor Arrkana wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Greckor Arrkana wrote:You guys are exceedingly helpful and friendly!
Edit: And to those who do help, thanks. Why would PLEX prices be under different rules for any other commodity? Removing VAT from the equation it is still -ú74.99. Vat isn't -ú30. Actually it would be -ú72 And that's not what I said or meant $/-ú/Eurobuck prices always differ widely Why should PLEX be any different? Also no need to get rude with us. You asked a question that none of us have a definative answer to (as we dont work for CCP) and then you call us unhelpful when we make our suggestions. You are being helpful. Even the person telling me to google it is helpful. I realize this is a commonly raised issue. And that you guys must get bored answering the same question. But i am confused in the need of comments referring to the originality. I am sure that you could read the first line a realise that i am a massive idiot and not decide to comment. I understand and really don't care. Useless comments (Which clearly is ironic for me to say) is where that response was aimed. Regarding the fact that prices do vary i completely agree. But you are talking about ISK, a separate virtual currency. So there should be an exchange rate for: USD> ISK 6668571.97294EURO>ISK 5701718.66091GBP>ISP 4617718.84689Average: 5662669.82691 On average exchange rate: USA: +15.08% GER: +0.68% UK: -22.6% These differences are substantial! And there are plenty of examples of prices remaining balances through exchange rates. For example steam is rather good at this. EDIT: Thanks for the answer CCP Falcon
CCP doesn't price anything with relation to actual ingame ISK, why would they :P |
Onictus
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Black Legion.
907
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Posted - 2014.05.26 19:56:00 -
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ElSuerte Diego wrote:I'm kinda surprised that nobody's tried to arbitrage this.
By the OP's numbers I save about $10 the price that I pay after taxes and international purchase fees would be something like $114. Use sales taxes are leved by the states NOT the Federal level, this is why you don't have to include taxes, you would have to list 50 separte States plus the territories. |
Bohneik Itohn
Periphery Bound
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Posted - 2014.05.26 20:28:00 -
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Kind of overlooking the fact that the tax rate between each country varies greatly, and that tax rates in the U.S. vary from state to state.
Amazon.com accepted paypal, last I checked? Freyya:
Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?! |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1499
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Posted - 2014.05.26 20:30:00 -
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Greckor Arrkana wrote:... cost of 6 Plex ....
USA: $104.97 Germany: Gé¼89.99 ($122.77) UK: -ú89.99 ($151.59)
Russia: 3299 RUB ($96.2) in Eve Online PLEX Store.
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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