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Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
223
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Posted - 2014.05.27 20:56:00 -
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These make ganking cheap and easy. Only 1 account required.
More people need to start doing this so it can be considered a problem.
I got ganked in mine in .6 with a tank fit.
I could believe someone suicided on me over a 30 mil cargo until i looked up what it costs them to do it. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5120
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Posted - 2014.05.27 22:31:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:These make ganking cheap and easy. Only 1 account required.
More people need to start doing this so it can be considered a problem.
I got ganked in mine in .6 with a tank fit.
I could believe someone suicided on me over a 30 mil cargo until i looked up what it costs them to do it.
Congratulations, it only took you a year to figure out that we spend 15m to gank your 600k ship. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2983
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Posted - 2014.05.27 22:43:00 -
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30m cargo means you weren't scanned and it was a lucky dip. Or it was for reasons other than profit.
Most people's threshold is 80-90m if they are -10, and 110-120m if they are highsec legal and need to fund tags. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Paranoid Loyd
513
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Posted - 2014.05.27 22:48:00 -
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There are plenty of solutions to your "problem" besides crying on the forums.
Protip: This is how it was desinged to work and if you took the time to understand the situation instead of whining you would realize it is a pretty nicely balanced system.
Also, I'm curious what you consider a tank on your T1 indy. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
223
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:06:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:There are plenty of solutions to your "problem" besides crying on the forums. I'm sure you are referring to an alt, but I gotta tell you if I saw you in my system I would gank you even if you were empty due to your incessant whining. It's not always about isk. The New Order targets haulers that are autopiloting and doesn't really care what you are hauling, you weren't autopiloting were you? Protip: This is how it was desinged to work and if you took the time to understand the situation instead of whining, you would realize it is a pretty nicely balanced system. Also, I'm curious what you consider a tank on your T1 indy.
I know no lifers like you like to throw your worthless 2 cents in every thread but I don't really give a damn what you think.
"I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Paranoid Loyd
513
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Posted - 2014.05.28 00:14:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:
I know no lifers like you like to throw your worthless 2 cents in every thread but I don't really give a damn what you think.
Right back at cha
I'll continue to enjoy the game that I have taken the time to understand and you will continue to do nothing but whine about it.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
118
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Posted - 2014.05.28 01:02:00 -
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If a solo vexor ganked your 'tanked' T1 indy then it wasn't very tanked. In fact it was likely anti-tanked with some shield mods. 30 mill is not itself enough to warrant a gank, so this was either because you were auto-piloting like a bot-aspirant, or the person saw you and decided to take a gamble, or it was a targeted gank but most likely one of the first two. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1622
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Posted - 2014.05.28 02:49:00 -
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I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship. |
Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2014.05.28 02:55:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:There are plenty of solutions to your "problem" besides crying on the forums. I'm sure you are referring to an alt, but I gotta tell you if I saw you in my system I would gank you even if you were empty due to your incessant whining. It's not always about isk. The New Order targets haulers that are autopiloting and doesn't really care what you are hauling, you weren't autopiloting were you? Protip: This is how it was desinged to work and if you took the time to understand the situation instead of whining, you would realize it is a pretty nicely balanced system. Also, I'm curious what you consider a tank on your T1 indy. I know no lifers like you like to throw your worthless 2 cents in every thread but I don't really give a damn what you think.
His advice and opinions are not worthless if they are true. The fact that you can't understand why what he said was true and would rather get mad about it, is your problem.
You flew your hualer afk through highsec and paid the price. Its Highsec, meaning security is high, not that it is safe sec. |
Ohhhh Feely Nice
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.05.28 04:52:00 -
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[Badger, Max EHP]
2x Large Shield Extender II 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II EM Ward Field II
3x Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II
3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
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Don Purple
224
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Posted - 2014.05.28 04:52:00 -
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Yup gonna go do this today :D I am just here to snuggle. |
Psychotic Monk
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
2119
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Posted - 2014.05.28 05:42:00 -
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I love that Vexor ganks are becoming more common! Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2988
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Posted - 2014.05.28 05:45:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:I love that Vexor ganks are becoming more common!
I have been doing as much as possible to encourage more people into using Vexors.
I have a feeling that the Drone Interfacing change will make Vexor ganking even better. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Drunken Angel
BodyBag Industries
11
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Posted - 2014.05.28 05:53:00 -
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Confirming my Corp is currently pushing vexors oh the tears... |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
134
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Posted - 2014.05.28 08:50:00 -
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Whats the dps on a vex? I currently run my badgers to have 14k passive ehp (amps not turn on modules) to survive the alpha strike of a gankcane. Be interesting to run the numbers and see where its killable.
@ op, any cargo over 10 mill makes it impossible to tank your tech1 to make the gank unprofitable. 30 mill cargo means your a profitable gank and thus fair game. Stop using t1 indies. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
134
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Posted - 2014.05.28 08:54:00 -
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Ohhhh Feely Nice wrote:[Badger, Max EHP]
2x Large Shield Extender II 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II EM Ward Field II
3x Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II
3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
only works if a) your not autopiloting b) your not hit by an alpha strike while sat waiting to dock/jump/whatever. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
JohnCrichton
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:23:00 -
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I'll have you know you need three accounts to do this correctly 4 in certain systems.
Just because only one makes the kill doesn't mean more are involved, otherwise the ganker would be very poor very quickly.
Also fit a decent tank or haul the right amount and it's not a problem, choose to fly carelessly and it is your own fault. |
Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
223
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:39:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship.
its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them. That is what i am doing. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
119
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Posted - 2014.05.28 16:04:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship. its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them and more people start doing it. That is what i am doing.
Except that there isn't a problem. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
262
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Posted - 2014.05.28 16:07:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship. its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them and more people start doing it. That is what i am doing.
The only problem here is between your chair and your keyboard. "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler |
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries Order of the Exalted
593
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Posted - 2014.05.28 17:05:00 -
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Tarojan wrote:Whats the dps on a vex? I currently run my badgers to have 14k passive ehp (amps not turn on modules) to survive the alpha strike of a gankcane. Be interesting to run the numbers and see where its killable.
@ op, any cargo over 10 mill makes it impossible to tank your tech1 to make the gank unprofitable. 30 mill cargo means your a profitable gank and thus fair game. Stop using t1 indies. Depends on fit, but over 1K with close range setups, 700? with long range. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
134
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:28:00 -
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So a vex can kill my badger anytime anywhere regardless of how I tank it? good to know. Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |
Psychotic Monk
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
2122
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:55:00 -
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Tarojan wrote:So a vex can kill my badger anytime anywhere regardless of how I tank it? good to know.
I'm not sure the math of that checks out. Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
Never Night
230
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:56:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship. its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them and more people start doing it. That is what i am doing.
OP rather than being a douche and flippant to the people in this thread that actually tried to provide you with some assistance, you could engage the replies by providing your main toon to allow us to review your lossmail and craft an appropriate fit/suggestions for you.........
Or you could continue to QQ those sad and sour tears....... I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses.............. |
Paranoid Loyd
521
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Posted - 2014.05.28 19:04:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Tarojan wrote:So a vex can kill my badger anytime anywhere regardless of how I tank it? good to know. I'm not sure the math of that checks out.
Confirming your math is wrong. Badgers can easily out tank a single vexor when fit properly. That fit that was posted earlier is around 60K EHP with the hardeners turned on. No single ship can kill that in the time allotted. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
unidenify
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2014.05.28 19:10:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship. its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them and more people start doing it. That is what i am doing.
here is 2 cents from me
Crime and Punishment is place where people who enjoy pvp to its full come to talk about their favorite kill mail stories.
they also are same people who can turn your day from happy and fluffy world into nightmare world that come out of hell.
generally, insult them is not good idea unless you want to see more of your ships blow up. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
216
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Posted - 2014.05.28 22:43:00 -
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Addendum to the above: Locator Agents exist. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1632
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Posted - 2014.05.28 23:28:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I wish kids these days would try doing some kind of thing in game about their problem before posting on the forums about how terrible it is that some mean person blew up their fictional spaceship. its not a fictional spaceship, its a virtual spaceship. I wish idiots like you would refrain from throwing your worthless 2 cents in every thread. Problems like this only get fixed when there is attention brought to them and more people start doing it. That is what i am doing. You getting blown up is not a problem with the game that needs to be fixed. It's the inevitable fate of a bad player. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
161
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Posted - 2014.05.28 23:50:00 -
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Please nerf gankers I lost my t1 indy to them while afk autopiloting in highsec. No seriously nerf them check my hilarious afk autopiloting indy lossmails. Also EVE is Dying. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6556
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Posted - 2014.05.29 00:11:00 -
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The OP is an excellent example of why NPC corp posting needs to be restricted. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
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