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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:36:00 -
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We are thrilled to inform you that signups for the epic Alliance Tournament XII are about to open on May 30th! The annual Alliance Tournament is an exciting tournament for alliances to fight for eternal glory, fame and fantastic prizes - for spectators it is a most entertaining spectacle and shouldn't be missed at all!
Read all about the Alliance Tournament XII rules, the format and especially the signups in CCP Gargant's latest blog Alliance Tournament XII - Signups, format, and rules. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
822
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:37:00 -
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Keeping things interesting is key, we believe. Fozzie is also an evil genius, letting him loose once in a while yields fun results. CCP Gargant | EVE Universe esports Coordinator |
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Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
393
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:43:00 -
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it just won't be the same without bro and dolan :'( Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
942
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:50:00 -
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Will the 3rd place get a price this time? Or still just 1 und 2? I would love a small amount of AT frigs for the 3rd place.
Why did you still chose to do it with the help of the silent auction? Many people did not like it last time.
Also: Game of Sins. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
BadAssMcKill
ElitistOps
786
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:51:00 -
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What's with the MJD structures
I do like the points values of the Domi/Ishtar though . |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
825
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:59:00 -
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LOL at the domi being 1 point higher than other T1 battleships and Navy battleships... ishtar at 2 points higher lol .... Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Steph Livingston
Neko's Blanket
37
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:02:00 -
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With the heavy limitations on RR it looks like there isn't much point in fielding a Nestor in any line-ups. Understandable, but it's a pity that it was re-balanced to be a heavy RR ship and people still have little or no interest in it. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
10625
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:04:00 -
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Steph Livingston wrote:With the heavy limitations on RR it looks like there isn't much point in fielding a Nestor in any line-ups. Understandable, but it's a pity that it was re-balanced to be a heavy RR ship and people still have little or no interest in it.
We place some fairly significant restrictions on RR and tanking in general for the tournaments, since it's a lot more entertaining if we skew the fights a bit more towards damage rather than tanking. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
313
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:10:00 -
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Quote:Marauder - 26 Battleship, Pirate Faction GÇô 20 Dominix - 20 Battleship, Navy Faction - 19 Battleship (other than the Dominix) - 17 Black Ops Battleship - 17 Command Ship - 16 Strategic Cruiser - 16 Recon Ship - 14 Battlecruiser, Navy Faction GÇô 14 Ishtar - 14 Battlecruiser (including the Gnosis) - 13 Logistics Cruiser - 13 Heavy Assault Cruiser (other than the Ishtar) - 12 Cruiser, Faction - 12 Heavy Interdictor - 11 Tech 1 Support Cruiser - 10 Cruiser - 6 Electronic Attack Frigate - 6 Frigate, Faction - 4 Assault Frigate - 4 Tech 1 Disruption Frigate GÇô 4 Covert Ops Ship - 4 Interdictor GÇô 4 Stealth Bomber - 4 Interceptor - 3 Destroyer - 3 Tech 1 Industrial Ships - 3 Frigate - 2
Doesn't this kind of point out how overpowered the domi and ishtar are? That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money.... |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
825
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:12:00 -
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Last Wolf wrote:Quote:Marauder - 26 Battleship, Pirate Faction GÇô 20 Dominix - 20 Battleship, Navy Faction - 19 Battleship (other than the Dominix) - 17 Black Ops Battleship - 17 Command Ship - 16 Strategic Cruiser - 16 Recon Ship - 14 Battlecruiser, Navy Faction GÇô 14 Ishtar - 14 Battlecruiser (including the Gnosis) - 13 Logistics Cruiser - 13 Heavy Assault Cruiser (other than the Ishtar) - 12 Cruiser, Faction - 12 Heavy Interdictor - 11 Tech 1 Support Cruiser - 10 Cruiser - 6 Electronic Attack Frigate - 6 Frigate, Faction - 4 Assault Frigate - 4 Tech 1 Disruption Frigate GÇô 4 Covert Ops Ship - 4 Interdictor GÇô 4 Stealth Bomber - 4 Interceptor - 3 Destroyer - 3 Tech 1 Industrial Ships - 3 Frigate - 2 Doesn't this kind of point out how overpowered the domi and ishtar are?
indeed .. the drone changes might help a little .. mainly garde dps reduction ... i'm curious as too whether the T3 rebalance will be done by then .. along with recons
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
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l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
942
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:17:00 -
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Last Wolf wrote: Doesn't this kind of point out how overpowered the domi and ishtar are?
EDIT: better idea, instead of these two ships costing more points, why not ban sentry drones from the tournament?
No it does not. Because some ships are better in a Tournament envourment than on TQ. You can't measure balance with the help of AT performance.
I am not saying that those ships are overpowered or not, just that you can't measure it this way. It's a biiiig no no.
As for your edit: Take a look at NEO II and see for yourself wish good team used Sentries. Not that many if I remember correctly.
@Fozzie: Prices for 3rd place, pretty please? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
10625
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:24:00 -
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Even in a hypothetical world where ship balance was 100% perfect for all non-tournament activities, some ships would still be more suited to the tournament environment than others. Bonused sentry drones are just about the perfect weapon for a 125km radius arena and the MJUs would have magnified the effectiveness of Ishtars if we had left their point costs alone.
We never make ship balance changes for the tournament context, and tournament rule changes do not have any direct implications for ship balance in non-tournament enviroments.
I'm not saying that Ishtars are perfectly balanced, but good arguments about general ship balance can't be made from looking at tournament performance. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3983
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:29:00 -
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Drone skill DB script has not yet been run, causing Light and Medium drones to be currently unusable.
Can we get the new drone skills seeded somewhere on Sisi so we can use Medium combat drones? Or will the above known issue be changedf soon(tm)?
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5229
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:31:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Steph Livingston wrote:With the heavy limitations on RR it looks like there isn't much point in fielding a Nestor in any line-ups. Understandable, but it's a pity that it was re-balanced to be a heavy RR ship and people still have little or no interest in it. We place some fairly significant restrictions on RR and tanking in general for the tournaments, since it's a lot more entertaining if we skew the fights a bit more towards damage rather than tanking.
I was wondering how you were going to handle the Nestor. To my understanding of the rules, you can field it but cannot put remote repair or remote shield rep modules on it since it is a Pirate Faction Battleship and not on the approved RR list of "a Logistics Ship, a Strategic Cruiser, a Tech 1 Support Cruiser; or on up to TWO Tech 1 Support Frigates"
Poor Nestor, still useless. :)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
531
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:33:00 -
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woohoo, another AT. Can't wait to watch it, although I do kinda wish I was participating in some capacity (ah well that will have to wait for XIII which is something of a lucky number for me). You can trust me, I have a monocole |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
10625
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:34:00 -
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This should have been fixed last night. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3983
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:48:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This should have been fixed last night.
I haven't logged into Sisi since Saturday, so I didn't notice yet. Yall are my heros!!! Thank you!!!
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Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
280
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:51:00 -
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Pray for duality |
Gosti Kahanid
GANOR Deep Space Explorers GANOR INC.
56
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:56:00 -
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So the first Weekend overlapps with the GamesCom in Germany... This could be a problem for those who want to participate in the Tournament, but already bought the cards for the GC... |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
971
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Posted - 2014.05.28 15:08:00 -
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Duality test server for teams with locked systems again please. This really let each team who used it play with new mechanics and theories last year without the annoyance and hassle of finding wormholes, cancelling training because of spies in local etc.
If players want to use the metagame for Tournaments make them do so via TQ means not test servers. Lieutenant Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
I post on my main... shocking I know! |
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
314
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Posted - 2014.05.28 15:13:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Even in a hypothetical world where ship balance was 100% perfect for all non-tournament activities, some ships would still be more suited to the tournament environment than others. Bonused sentry drones are just about the perfect weapon for a 125km radius arena and the MJUs would have magnified the effectiveness of Ishtars if we had left their point costs alone.
We never make ship balance changes for the tournament context, and tournament rule changes do not have any direct implications for ship balance in non-tournament enviroments.
I'm not saying that Ishtars are perfectly balanced, but good arguments about general ship balance can't be made from looking at tournament performance.
Fair enough.
Will anymore ship balancing be done between now any the turny? Specifically T3's, Recons, and stealth bombers. If so, are these point costs subject to changing?
Also, what happens when a player is pointed the wrong way when a Mobile or micro jump goes off and it shoots them out side of the 125km arena. Is considered leaving the arena and they will be destroyed? I only mention this because bumping could become a very viable tactic if you see someone activating a micro jump to try and get them to shoot out of the arena. That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money.... |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5229
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Posted - 2014.05.28 15:39:00 -
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Last Wolf wrote: Also, what happens when a player is pointed the wrong way when a Mobile or micro jump goes off and it shoots them out side of the 125km arena. Is considered leaving the arena and they will be destroyed? I only mention this because bumping could become a very viable tactic if you see someone activating a micro jump to try and get them to shoot out of the arena.
I'm gonna go ahead and guess that yes, going outside the arena is considered leaving the arena.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
darius mclever
71
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Posted - 2014.05.28 18:37:00 -
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Last Wolf wrote:Also, what happens when a player is pointed the wrong way when a Mobile or micro jump goes off and it shoots them out side of the 125km arena. Is considered leaving the arena and they will be destroyed? I only mention this because bumping could become a very viable tactic if you see someone activating a micro jump to try and get them to shoot out of the arena.
Jumping out of the arena with an MJD is so last year. |
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
130
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Posted - 2014.05.28 19:09:00 -
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We need a proper way to spawn the tournament area with those MJU in place. Or locked test systems where people can set up the arena. If not we will end up with many matches ending due to boundary violations. Follow me on twitter: @ForlornW Follow my blog: http://crossingzebras.com/author/forlorn-wongraven |
Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
436
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Posted - 2014.05.28 19:38:00 -
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Forlorn Wongraven wrote:We need a proper way to spawn the tournament area with those MJU in place. Or locked test systems where people can set up the arena. If not we will end up with many matches ending due to boundary violations. How about creating a reverse POS force field around the arena? So, instead of keeping things out, it keeps things in?
Also, the field could contract during the match, so that we don't have those boring situations where someone just zooms around the arena until the 10 minute timer expires.
The contraction does not need to be linear, so it can start out slow and speed up as the match progresses - or it can be based on the number of ships remaining on any one team (to deal with the situation where one team only has a single interceptor remaining which is zooming around and evading a bunch of slower ships of the opposite team). |
suicide
The Exit Plan Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2014.05.28 20:00:00 -
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No T2 haulers. :(
And recons are still 14? They are not heavily used... I guess they are high points because they are low DPS and make for less-thank exciting matches? |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
826
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Posted - 2014.05.28 21:14:00 -
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suicide wrote:No T2 haulers. :(
And recons are still 14? They are not heavily used... I guess they are high points because they are low DPS and make for less-thank exciting matches?
well unless you want too see a fuckton of rooks .. i wouldn't complain about it Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2660
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Posted - 2014.05.28 21:27:00 -
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what about T2 industrials? you know.. those with the fleet hangars ;) eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Capqu
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
546
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Posted - 2014.05.28 22:59:00 -
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jesus christ you know balance is out of whack when domis and ishtars have specific point costs
how dumb is the ccp balance team for real
i mean specific ships have always been strong in specific areas but it takes a special kind of "balance" to force this kind of rubbish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNpMiT5qpyI |
Greygal
Redemption Road Affirmative.
212
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Posted - 2014.05.29 00:29:00 -
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Not sure I like the anchored MJD's around the arena... to me, whether or not someone uses a MJD should be a strategic fitting decision, costing a fitting slot, not just available to all. It just seems kind of gimmicky to have them available around the arena. On the other hand, they could change how a fight is going drastically and dramatically...
Will the teams have access to Duality like last year? Pretty please make this so! Duality ROCKS!!
Also, if a pilot was a member of your alliance at the deadline, then left the alliance after the deadline and came back, are they still eligible to be in the arena? (I asked this on the other AT blog comments thread and never got an answer, would like clarification on this).
Liking the points changes!!
Going to be a fun tournament!
GG What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal.
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