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Jackie Vaille
Shadow Legion X The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.05.30 00:47:00 -
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Hi there, MD! I have never taken out a loan via the forums before, but I have some big business plans for the summer. Therefore, I wanted to get started establishing a good reputation at paying back loans and working with investors.
Requested Loan Terms:
Amount: 500,000,000 ISK (500 million) Interest: 10% (50 million + original principal) Term: 2 week from receipt Collateral: None
What I Will Spend It On:
Market Region Trading from Jita to nullsec.
How I Will Prevent Default:
Easy. I have somewhere around 2 - 3 billion in assorted materials and BPOs. At this moment I have 650 mil ISK in basic minerals. In the unlikely event I can't pay back the loan, I'll just sell some of this overpriced Tritanium and some Pyerite.
Past Loans:
Like I said, none through the forums..
Other Info:
I'd like to meet a regular investor whom I can work with this summer on some larger loans (around 1 billion - I'm not comfortable being in debt much more than that at one time).
You may send ISK right away, if you want, but please post first. Once loan has been filled, please do not send any more. I will post another loan request when I am ready to use more ISK.
Thanks for your consideration. Let's make some ISK! |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2014.05.30 01:00:00 -
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Copy pasting a template is not too bad, but using their comments with altered numbers is definitely a red flag.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4651434 .
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Jackie Vaille
Shadow Legion X The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.05.30 01:02:00 -
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Corp mate told me it copy it to get an idea of what it should look like to help me get going. But i did edit it.
Sorry about that. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2014.05.30 01:23:00 -
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I also noticed you left your corp at the same time you made this post, I assume you would have been moving your goods to The Bastion space, if so then what is the plan now? .
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Jackie Vaille
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.30 01:34:00 -
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I will be moving it close to Bastion space, Then JFing it the rest of the way. Also because of Wardecs. |
Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:20:00 -
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Any collateral? |
Jackie Vaille
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:24:00 -
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Bayaz Sharvas wrote:Any collateral?
I am just starting this up so none really. But i am looking to build a good rep on these forums over the summer.
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Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:26:00 -
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what about the 2 to 3 billion in minerals and bpos? |
Jackie Vaille
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:32:00 -
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Bayaz Sharvas wrote:what about the 2 to 3 billion in minerals and bpos?
It is tied up in a pos ATM. I will use it in case i fail at what i want todo with the loan. |
Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:40:00 -
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Jackie Vaille wrote:Bayaz Sharvas wrote:what about the 2 to 3 billion in minerals and bpos? It is tied up in a pos ATM. I will use it in case i fail at what i want todo with the loan. What i dont understand how u have 2-3 billion in assets in 5 days. Why would you need 500m then? seems like your doing fine to me |
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Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:41:00 -
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Bayaz Sharvas wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:Bayaz Sharvas wrote:what about the 2 to 3 billion in minerals and bpos? It is tied up in a pos ATM. I will use it in case i fail at what i want todo with the loan. What i dont understand how u have 2-3 billion in assets in 5 days. Why would you need 500m then? seems like your doing fine to me
This is my forum/transport alt. |
Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:42:00 -
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Jackie Vaille wrote:Bayaz Sharvas wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:Bayaz Sharvas wrote:what about the 2 to 3 billion in minerals and bpos? It is tied up in a pos ATM. I will use it in case i fail at what i want todo with the loan. What i dont understand how u have 2-3 billion in assets in 5 days. Why would you need 500m then? seems like your doing fine to me This is my forum/transport alt. This is something you should mention |
Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:46:00 -
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Bayaz Sharvas wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:Bayaz Sharvas wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:Bayaz Sharvas wrote:what about the 2 to 3 billion in minerals and bpos? It is tied up in a pos ATM. I will use it in case i fail at what i want todo with the loan. What i dont understand how u have 2-3 billion in assets in 5 days. Why would you need 500m then? seems like your doing fine to me This is my forum/transport alt. This is something you should mention
Sorry this is my first time.
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Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:59:00 -
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You should have posted with your main character and not with a 5 day old character with nothing to lose |
Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 03:00:00 -
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Bayaz Sharvas wrote:You should have posted with your main character and not with a 5 day old character with nothing to lose
Alot of people use alts for transportation and loans. |
Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.30 03:07:00 -
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not with 5 day characters calming to have 2 to 3 billion in assets with no mention of a main |
Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 03:11:00 -
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Bayaz Sharvas wrote:not with 5 day characters calming to have 2 to 3 billion in assets with no mention of a main
It's no big deal for a 5 day old alt to have 2 to 3 bill of assets. |
Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 05:44:00 -
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Bump. |
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.05.30 06:04:00 -
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Jackie Vaille wrote:I will be moving it close to Bastion space, Then JFing it the rest of the way. Also because of Wardecs.
Jackie Vaille wrote:This is my forum/transport alt.
Since when can a five day old toon fly JFs?
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Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 06:15:00 -
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Myriad Blaze wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:I will be moving it close to Bastion space, Then JFing it the rest of the way. Also because of Wardecs. Jackie Vaille wrote:This is my forum/transport alt. Since when can a five day old toon fly JFs?
Since when can't you read this is an alt and that a huge CFC alliance has 10 JF services? |
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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.05.30 07:16:00 -
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Jackie Vaille wrote:Myriad Blaze wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:I will be moving it close to Bastion space, Then JFing it the rest of the way. Also because of Wardecs. Jackie Vaille wrote:This is my forum/transport alt. Since when can a five day old toon fly JFs? Since when can't you read this is an alt and that a huge CFC alliance has 10 JF services? Already getting mad because your scam attempt doesn't work?
You claimed that Jackie Vaille is your "transport alt" (I quoted you) whereas he's not ready to actually be a transportation alt. You said that you were going to "JF it the rest of the way" but never in all your posts did you mention the CFC. Additionally I don't see any sign that you are actually eligible to use one of the CFC JF services.
EDIT (to avoid confusion): I did notice that Jackie Vaille once was a member of Shadow Legion X which is one of the smaller corps in The Bastion which again is a member in the CFC. However, you did not even bother to claim that you are still affiliated with that corp and alliance nor can this be concluded from anything you posted. |
Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 14:34:00 -
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Myriad Blaze wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:Myriad Blaze wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:I will be moving it close to Bastion space, Then JFing it the rest of the way. Also because of Wardecs. Jackie Vaille wrote:This is my forum/transport alt. Since when can a five day old toon fly JFs? Since when can't you read this is an alt and that a huge CFC alliance has 10 JF services? Already getting mad because your scam attempt doesn't work? You claimed that Jackie Vaille is your "transport alt" (I quoted you) whereas he's not ready to actually be a transportation alt. You said that you were going to "JF it the rest of the way" but never in all your posts did you mention the CFC. Additionally I don't see any sign that you are actually eligible to use one of the CFC JF services. EDIT (to avoid confusion): I did notice that Jackie Vaille once was a member of Shadow Legion X which is one of the smaller corps in The Bastion which again is a member in the CFC. However, you did not even bother to claim that you are still affiliated with that corp and alliance nor can this be concluded from anything you posted.
You are apart of N3 and you did not realize about Wardecs and out of corp transports and JF's. Just because i'm apart of the CFC does not mean you should come here and claim that i'm scamming when i'm clearly not.
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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.05.30 17:15:00 -
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Jackie Vaille wrote:You are apart of N3 and you did not realize about Wardecs and out of corp transports and JF's. Just because i'm apart of the CFC does not mean you should come here and claim that i'm scamming when i'm clearly not.
Somehow it seems you are reading stuff into my posts that I didn't write while ignoring things I did write.
In short: I'm not saying you're a scammer because you're in the CFC but because you behave like a scammer. Case in point, I don't even know that you are actually a member of the CFC, although this is very important. It's entirely possible that you are lying about this and you refuse to prove it, for example by posting with your main.
And while we're at it: Being in an alliance with JF services myself, I do know something about it. For example how unlikely it is that those who provide the service are thrilled when they learn that you abuse that service for your personal profit.
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Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 23:07:00 -
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Myriad Blaze wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:You are apart of N3 and you did not realize about Wardecs and out of corp transports and JF's. Just because i'm apart of the CFC does not mean you should come here and claim that i'm scamming when i'm clearly not.
Somehow it seems you are reading stuff into my posts that I didn't write while ignoring things I did write. In short: I'm not saying you're a scammer because you're in the CFC but because you behave like a scammer. Case in point, I don't even know that you are actually a member of the CFC, although this is very important. It's entirely possible that you are lying about this and you refuse to prove it, for example by posting with your main. And while we're at it: Being in an alliance with JF services myself, I do know something about it. For example how unlikely it is that those who provide the service are thrilled when they learn that you abuse that service for your personal profit.
lol k, Main is Uhaka Verkoh. convo me in game if you want proof. But thanks for ruining my simple loan request.
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Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:08:00 -
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Bump. |
Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:38:00 -
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Im not trying to be mean. But I dont think anyone is going loan you isk |
Nedly Stark
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:54:00 -
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Per usual, detective Norn has already flagged you as a scammer... It would be wise to avoid loaning you any amount of isk. Good luck. |
Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 03:27:00 -
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Nedly Stark wrote:Per usual, detective Norn has already flagged you as a scammer... It would be wise to avoid loaning you any amount of isk. Good luck.
Well the one person who does give me isk will be happy after 2 weeks when i pay them back. Noone has ANY proof that i'm a scammer. |
Serene Python
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Posted - 2014.05.31 04:28:00 -
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Jackie Vaille wrote:Nedly Stark wrote:Per usual, detective Norn has already flagged you as a scammer... It would be wise to avoid loaning you any amount of isk. Good luck. Well the one person who does give me isk will be happy after 2 weeks when i pay them back. Noone has ANY proof that i'm a scammer.
The reason no one has stepped up to give you ISK is....
You cannot even make your own forum post, you had to go and take somebody elses and then had the audacity to not even change some of their text. Outside of that. your posts do not show any serious thought and you just typed something up and hit "POST". This might be okay when some people have names, have collateral backing them up or are just publicly posting about a private offer they received.
You are nobody, you have not done anything what so ever to prove you even know how to turn a measly 500m into 550m to cover the principal and interest. You blatantly just claim you plan on building up rep over the summer, so how can any investor even trust you will be using this ISK and not just paying 50m so you can ponzi your way up to higher amounts.
You then proceed to state that two to three billion ISK in assets isn't a big deal for a 5 day old character, that is 400-600m a day in growth, so why do you need this loan if getting 400-600m a day isn't a big deal? In the course of this thread you should have been able to make that 500m you needed since it's 'no big deal'.
When someone asks how you somehow can fly a jump freighter(because you implied that you would be moving stuff yourself) you then proceeded to lash out at them. The reasoning behind this lash out does not matter if it was political or you taking it personal you do not have the luxury of losing your composure, especially when you're this far gone.
You are not some gift to this subforum. If you'd like people to give you money you need to act like a grown up. |
Jackie Vaille
Worlds Destruction Transportation.
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Posted - 2014.05.31 05:46:00 -
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Serene Python wrote:Jackie Vaille wrote:Nedly Stark wrote:Per usual, detective Norn has already flagged you as a scammer... It would be wise to avoid loaning you any amount of isk. Good luck. Well the one person who does give me isk will be happy after 2 weeks when i pay them back. Noone has ANY proof that i'm a scammer. The reason no one has stepped up to give you ISK is.... You cannot even make your own forum post, you had to go and take somebody elses and then had the audacity to not even change some of their text. Outside of that. your posts do not show any serious thought and you just typed something up and hit "POST". This might be okay when some people have names, have collateral backing them up or are just publicly posting about a private offer they received. You are nobody, you have not done anything what so ever to prove you even know how to turn a measly 500m into 550m to cover the principal and interest. You blatantly just claim you plan on building up rep over the summer, so how can any investor even trust you will be using this ISK and not just paying 50m so you can ponzi your way up to higher amounts. You then proceed to state that two to three billion ISK in assets isn't a big deal for a 5 day old character, that is 400-600m a day in growth, so why do you need this loan if getting 400-600m a day isn't a big deal? In the course of this thread you should have been able to make that 500m you needed since it's 'no big deal'. When someone asks how you somehow can fly a jump freighter(because you implied that you would be moving stuff yourself) you then proceeded to lash out at them. The reasoning behind this lash out does not matter if it was political or you taking it personal you do not have the luxury of losing your composure, especially when you're this far gone. You are not some gift to this subforum. If you'd like people to give you money you need to act like a grown up.
State that i have 2-3 bill as a 5 day old ALT. Keyword "ALT". I could make a 1 day alt and put 1trill on him and would that make me a scammer? no.
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