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Benedicta Secheh
Little Sisters of the Most Holy Sword
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Posted - 2014.05.30 02:12:00 -
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On June 10th at 03:00, I will be holding a Ceremony of Remembrance and Prayer on the anniversary of the Battle of Mekhios.
In that battle, Blessed Jamyl, the soon to become Empress Jamyl I, returned to save her People through a Divine Miracle and dealt the blow that ultimately turned the tide of battle and ended in the defeat of the Elder invasion.
Despite the ultimate victory of the Amarr, multiple worlds were ravaged with extensive destruction and injury to persons, environment, and infrastructure and billions perished and were injured in the treacherous invasion by the Minmater "Elders" in contravention of existing treaties and understandings with the 4 great powers and Concord. Concord itself was unlawfully assaulted in order to facilitate the treachery. It is my intention at that Ceremony to remember those who we have lost and the lessons the Amarr have learned from this event.
All faithful and loyal members of the Empire and Kingdom and treasured Allies are invited to this Ceremony.
Please message me for an invitation and/or for requests to speak. The location will be provided at that time.
I'll not sally forth to battle the small-minded brigade of furriers that will no doubt scurry forth to post on the IGS after I post this. I have better things to with my time, like reflect, and pray.
Amarr Victor.
(Source: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Battle_of_Mekhios ) |
Job Valador
Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces
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Posted - 2014.05.30 17:11:00 -
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Amarr Victor. "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |
Rin Valador
Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces
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Posted - 2014.05.30 17:14:00 -
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Wish we could make it but we will honor those that have fallen.
Amarr Victor sister. "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
Graelyn
Decapsulation Services
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Posted - 2014.05.30 20:33:00 -
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We Do Not Forget. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit" Amarr Loyalist of the Year --áYC113 |
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2014.06.01 16:10:00 -
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We Remember.
There will be representatives of SFRIM at the service. |
N'maro Makari
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.01 17:08:00 -
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Quite a day. Vherokior-á |
Benedicta Secheh
Little Sisters of the Most Holy Sword
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Posted - 2014.06.05 14:48:00 -
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A location has been selected.
The services will be held at the Amarr Legio Basilica on Oris. |
Bryen Verrisai
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.06.05 16:33:00 -
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Regardless of their intentions, the actions of the Elder Fleet were cowardly and destructive and the results disastrous not only to their holder enemies but to the lives of innocent people and the very slaves they sought to free, to say nothing of their treacherous actions against CONCORD and the chaotic ramifications that would cause elsewhere. Their defeat is worthy of celebration and their victims worthy of mourning. |
Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:09:00 -
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My condolences for the innocent lives lost on that day.
My caravan will be holding its own ritual of rememberance to honour those Thukker who didn't return to the Wildlands, including those who were down on the surface of Mekhios; may they be at peace with their ancestors.
Karynn Denton Caravan Master
Thukking about! In Rifters! On drugs! \o/ |
Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:23:00 -
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I will try my best to attend. |
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James Syagrius
Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:28:00 -
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The toils of the Faithful are remembered in many places. GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
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Posted - 2014.06.09 04:37:00 -
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This is a a little on the late side of my usual cycle, but I should be able to attend.
I have not been by the Basilica in some time, and it is past time for another visit. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar |
Ava Starfire
Gradient
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Posted - 2014.06.09 13:47:00 -
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Benedicta Secheh wrote: It is my intention at that Ceremony to remember...the lessons the Amarr have learned from this event.
Why do I doubt you and yours have learned much of anything, from this or any other event? "There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception."
-Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North" |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
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Posted - 2014.06.09 14:24:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:Benedicta Secheh wrote: It is my intention at that Ceremony to remember...the lessons the Amarr have learned from this event. Why do I doubt you and yours have learned much of anything, from this or any other event?
I wouldn't say that. I've occasionally met reasonable Imperial Empyreans, who - even if somewhat slowly - understand the need for reform and change. Obviously, this is unlikely to be very universal in the Empire, but it's a start.
A pity it's not likely to make a difference for a few generations yet. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Indira Harashani
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.09 14:56:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:Benedicta Secheh wrote: It is my intention at that Ceremony to remember...the lessons the Amarr have learned from this event. Why do I doubt you and yours have learned much of anything, from this or any other event? The lesson that Republic-affiliated warships should, the moment they leave Republic space, be shot out of the sky swiftly, without question, and with overwhelming force - as some might say, with extreme prejudice - was a costly one.
But we learned it, and we learned it well. We only needed the once.
It remains to be seen if CONCORD, or the Federation, have learned this lesson too. For their sake, I pray they have.
Miss Otsito: You are mostly correct that change is slow in the Empire. It is often best compared to a very large boulder located on top of a hill. It takes a lot of effort by a fair number of people, working together, to get it to begin moving slowly towards the slopes. But once it gets far enough along - that is, the right people in the right positions - it begins moving all on its own without much further assistance.
Just as there will always be those who push for change, for better or for ill, so there will be those who push back and try to impede it (again, for better or for ill). This, of course, is not much different in any other society in New Eden. Sometimes all that is needed is a light shone in the right dark corner, or just the gentlest of nudges in precisely the right places. |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
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Posted - 2014.06.09 15:01:00 -
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The gentlest of nudges, like an invasion fleet as a result of truly staggering acts of cruelty and enslavement. Let's hope someone among you took a different lesson to heart than you did from that event. Self-inflicted calamities are very valuable learning experiences. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
3767
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Posted - 2014.06.09 16:34:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:The gentlest of nudges, like an invasion fleet as a result of truly staggering acts of cruelty and enslavement. Let's hope someone among you took a different lesson to heart than you did from that event. Self-inflicted calamities are very valuable learning experiences.
Sadly, the Empire is hardly alone when it comes to self-inflicted calamities. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
596
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Posted - 2014.06.09 16:40:00 -
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I wouldn't be too sad about it. Like I said, they're very valuable learning opportunities. Think we'll see another Heth any time soon? The State will be better off now and in the future after this particular lesson than we would have been without it. The same applies to every faction in New Eden in some way or another.
The Empire seems to be a rather slow learner, is all. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
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Posted - 2014.06.09 16:47:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:I wouldn't be too sad about it. Like I said, they're very valuable learning opportunities. Think we'll see another Heth any time soon? The State will be better off now and in the future after this particular lesson than we would have been without it. The same applies to every faction in New Eden in some way or another.
The Empire seems to be a rather slow learner, is all.
Well, that's true, of course Jinari. We've had our deplorable fling with centralised authority and, Maker willing, it'll be a warm day on Home before we head down THAT path again.
The sad thing, I suppose, is the inevitable cost of these learning experiences. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2014.06.09 16:53:00 -
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Better the lesson learned at that cost, than not learned at the same cost. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
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Posted - 2014.06.09 17:25:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Better the lesson learned at that cost, than not learned at the same cost.
Ancestors, you're in a grim mood Verin. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.06.09 17:29:00 -
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The lesson learned is that no matter how much you attempt to appease them and no matter how faithfully you adhere to your negotiated settlements, some people will refuse to set aside vengeance. Diplomacy cannot be relied on, only force of arms.
Jinari Otsito wrote:The gentlest of nudges, like an invasion fleet as a result of truly staggering acts of cruelty and enslavement.
We are under no obligation to eliminate our culture for people who have proven that they don't care how much you try to change. The only thing an invasion fleet nudges you toward is insuring that your defenses are stronger so that you can better repel them the next time they try.
Isn't that what the Caldari believe, too? It's certainly a lesson the Minmatar took to heart after we conquered them. |
Ava Starfire
Gradient
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Posted - 2014.06.09 17:54:00 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:The lesson learned is that no matter how much you attempt to appease them and no matter how faithfully you adhere to your negotiated settlements, some people will refuse to set aside vengeance. Diplomacy cannot be relied on, only force of arms. Jinari Otsito wrote:The gentlest of nudges, like an invasion fleet as a result of truly staggering acts of cruelty and enslavement. We are under no obligation to eliminate our culture for people who have proven that they don't care how much you try to change. The only thing an invasion fleet nudges you toward is insuring that your defenses are stronger so that you can better repel them the next time they try. Isn't that what the Caldari believe, too? It's certainly a lesson the Minmatar took to heart after we conquered them.
Um, the Empire is still doing the stuff that pissed us off in the first place?
Some appeasement there. Are you getting enough oxygen, Ms. Kernher? B-vitamins? "There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception."
-Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North" |
Anslo
Scope Works
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:13:00 -
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Can I ask something?
Any time some kind of memorial thread has popped up, every loyalist manages to turn it into a blame game of who's fault it was that people died. Then it goes to a well he hit me first, no he hit me first, no you, no you, and so and so forth.
Why is that?
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Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
3769
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:32:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Can I ask something?
Any time some kind of memorial thread has popped up, every loyalist manages to turn it into a blame game of who's fault it was that people died. Then it goes to a well he hit me first, no he hit me first, no you, no you, and so and so forth.
Why is that?
Because we're still angry about it. You have to be angry in order to dedicate your eternity to poking someone else in the eye.
I'm still mad as anything about the bombardment of Caldari Prime and that was over 200 years ago. I know it's weird, but that's patriotism for you. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Bryen Verrisai
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:33:00 -
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Indira Harashani wrote:The lesson that Republic-affiliated warships should, the moment they leave Republic space, be shot out of the sky swiftly, without question, and with overwhelming force I wish I could say this wasn't true. I can't, but I wish I could.
Samira Kernher wrote:Diplomacy cannot be relied on, only force of arms. Now this I have to disagree with. Diplomacy is a great tool that gets the best results almost every time. But for the times it doesn't, it is ideal to keep a big stick close at hand. |
Anslo
Scope Works
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:36:00 -
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Eh fine. Just seems pointless to make memorial threads when they just turn into bashing each other every time, instead of, you know, remembering the dead people.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Verdant Inquiries Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
3770
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:46:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Eh fine. Just seems pointless to make memorial threads when they just turn into bashing each other every time, instead of, you know, remembering the dead people.
In many ways, we remember them best by keeping their cause alive. By being angry for them. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Anslo
Scope Works
5422
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Posted - 2014.06.09 18:49:00 -
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Well, when you put it that way. Still, would be nice to see one memorial without GRR.
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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
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Posted - 2014.06.09 19:18:00 -
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Let's be fair here. This memorial and the way the announcement was worded could pretty much be translated to "Shots fired!". Return fire is inevitable when you do it that way. The Malkalen announcement and thread went pretty well to a point, due to the far more balanced and neutral tone used in remembrance of the event rather than a "Glory to the State, poop on the Fedos" tone.
Once more, the Empire seems slow to embrace these kinds of things. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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