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Trevor Dalech
Adeptus Assassinorum Silent Eviction
36
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Posted - 2014.06.01 07:04:00 -
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NPC escorts for hire...
Already exists, they're called drones. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10198
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Posted - 2014.06.01 07:29:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:This days low sec is as safe if not more than some places in high sec. Try doing the same things in lowsec (or nullsec) that you do in highsec without changing any of your habits and see how long you last. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
70
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Posted - 2014.06.01 07:35:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:EvE is a universo of living science fiction. What I am asking is pretty sensitive and according to that. How many people doesnt even know about all can be done "becasue thats for carebears"? Really 50 smashing 6 is all you can get out of it? Mercenaries is a scam. I have all my right to declare my corporation independent of all I dont want to associate with and use the technology and priviledges gained by working missions to be as strong as I deserve without selling my soul to punks. I will not play the game the way you like but the way I want.
Completely agree with you, NPC or AI should be a big part of any sci-fi Universe, especially MMO. Capsuleers aren't even taking up 0,1 % of the entire population of New Eden anyways. Many things just can't be done involving the players only... it would just end up being boring and wouldn't make sense. There s a right step in the next direction with the teams though which brings some parts of the lore and goes in tact with the EVE Universe more. More things like this will definitely make things much more dynamic and fun, it won't ruin anything playerwise cause players will always control the main systems of the things anyways. It just all needs the main underlaying life that is in the end happening all around us, we just don't see it enough. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1957
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Posted - 2014.06.01 08:04:00 -
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As much as people seem to hate the idea, they are missing the possibilities.
Letting normally Highsec Indys and Freighters hire NPCs only leads them into a false sense of security, the "NPC Escort" would be easy pickings for most groups and would allow more people to try and travel into dangerous areas.
People seem to hate on PVE, but fail to realize that, if done right, PVE can be used to create PVP encounters.
Plus lets be honest, finding a honest player merc in Eve, is like finding a virgin after prom night. Yeah there maybe a few, but there is a reason for that. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
6718
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Posted - 2014.06.01 08:15:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Plus lets be honest, finding a honest player merc in Eve, is like finding a virgin after prom night. Yeah there maybe a few, but there is a reason for that. Lack of space Pimps
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1508
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Posted - 2014.06.01 08:25:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Erica Dusette wrote:Unless the NPCs were CONCORD, Officer battleships or sleeper drones they'd be pretty much useless against players anyway. Even IF they weren't I really don't understand why you'd want the Devs to redesign so much of the game (yes I've seen your other thread) just so you could solo in lowsec with your NPC fleet. Sounds like you'd prefer to play EVE Offline. Seriously, get involved with an active PVP corp that lives there instead. You won't look back. And no Webby, this lil body ain't for hire. You think people dont pvp because they never tried or because they are bad. You cannot get some people dont play eve tfor the combat part of it. it's possible but difficult. Eve is built around ship to ship combat.
If you want to play Eve evading direct combat you'd better prepare to tough times.... The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Calfis
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
138
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Posted - 2014.06.01 08:31:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Tippia wrote:DHuncan wrote:EvE is a universo of living science fiction. Exactly. So hiring live-body mercs rather than some stale and predicable code is pretty much spot on for the theme. Quote:Mercenaries is a scam. In what way? How is paying one party to protect you a scam, but paying another party to do so not? Quote:I have all my right to declare my corporation independent of all I dont want to associate with and use the technology and priviledges gained by working missions to be as strong as I deserve without selling my soul to punks. I will not play the game the way you like but the way I want. Who said you can't stay independent or have to sell out? All anyone is saying is that what you're asking for is already in the game, and CCP is not likely to steal a job players can do and give it to NPCs. You pay people so they can play the game as they like it and you can play it as you like it. Everyone wins. Mercenaries are not payed for winning the war for me. Once got the isk I you have not garantee they will do their best... or even try. NPCs dont have that choice to make they simply would fight to the end -unless bug or game broken-. Mercenaries live out of war, they want wars to happen, they are -most probably- in the same side as the ones who declares war. Even wars are declared to run mercenary bussines. That's how is a scam. You know this game better than anyone, dont play dumb to me. Living scinece fiction yes, but you only read the part 'living' and forgot the part 'science fiction' Predictable or not NPC drop dps, ecms, energy vampyres... predictable or not may ballance an unballanced battlefield. And using the word 'steal' is manipulative.
So you basically want NPCs to babysit you because you are bad at the game, this is a sandbox not a themepark. Everyone is put in the world and is equal, if you can't deal with the world you shouldn't be given NPC protection just because you are a weak link.
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Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
115
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Posted - 2014.06.01 08:45:00 -
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I for one welcome our new npc overlords |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1770
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Posted - 2014.06.01 08:51:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:
I suggest CCP implements the chance of hiring NPC ships for isk.... and kick those bullies arses....
You know how you can cut through hundreds and hundreds of NPCs, but if you try that same thing with just 5 other players... even just a dozen week-old noobs... you get really dead, really fast?
Yeah.... I have some really bad news for you, mate.... those NPC's are going to be really expensive speed bumps on the way to your killmail. And not even very effective ones, either. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
91
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:55:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:I am allowed to use drones and they are AI. It is possible and many's worst nightmare.
Who is having nightmares about drones? :)
Unless you're in a dedicated drone ship using T2 drones they aren't really much of a threat, NPC's are too weak to be anything more than cannon fodder for someone trying to kill you and they will just ignore the NPC's altogether and kill you, this suggestion wont work at all from a logical standpoint, only players can defend players :)
You'll either have to accept that you really need a group to be super effective at EVE or get over your trust issues :P |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4662
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Posted - 2014.06.01 12:01:00 -
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DHuncan wrote: I think we all agree
You think incorrectly
Please stop it with the "we all think this" type rants
We don't all think anything the same way
Also; hire some mercs if you are that scared of monsters under your bed "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
Chick Sauce
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.06.01 12:09:00 -
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Hello,
Due to the nature of corporations and wardecs, it is advised you only create a corp if you are willing to fight with it and/or use it solely as a communicative gathering point. If you live in high-sec you should have an alt, out of corp, who does your ISK making. Or a group of alts.
Your characters in the corp itself should be willing to do nothing but PVP for weeks if needed. If you don't want to PVP, place a useless alt in corp for access to chats/hangars and keep your ISK makers outside still.
The problem is that players want to be in corp AND do PVE with those characters. They are giving you a suitable option to PVE in peace, you just need to take advantage of the mechanics.
A group of 20 PVE'ers could place an alt with 0 training in corp each. These alts are how they communicate and organize things as well as exchange things through hangars and the like. If they are wardecced every PVE'er can still PVE. They in fact cannot be affected by wardecs.
People don't THINK, that is the issue with wardecs and highsec. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
299
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Posted - 2014.06.01 12:41:00 -
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I'll bite and say it if it hadn't already been...
Most ships in Eve do have what are called drone bays. Those are for what are called drones...
You get where I'm going with this, don't you? |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
91
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Posted - 2014.06.01 12:55:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:I'll bite and say it if it hadn't already been...
Most ships in Eve do have what are called drone bays. Those are for what are called drones...
You get where I'm going with this, don't you?
How dare you imply that the OP should spend time and money in learning to protect himself instead of expecting the harsh universe of EVE to do it for him!!! |
Cyrek Ohaya
Perkone Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2014.06.01 13:01:00 -
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You can't hire player "mercs", you have a bigger chance to get blown by them than actual pirates. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
35
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Posted - 2014.06.01 13:28:00 -
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I nottice some people doesnt know how to read. Or dont want to understand. Or they see in peril their twisted way to have fun.
I wonder would CCP make a better game knowing it would make less money?
Would CCP nerf the game if they knew it would make more money?
Was Titanic the best piece of cinema art of all times? I may be out dated but still one of most profitables sure it was.
How many pew pew video games there is?
Then if there are a million and ten pew pew video games out there, why is EvE different? I will tell you, for the 90% of content that is not pew pew. Sorry to wake you up this abruptly but EvE is not about pew pew solely. The mass that has being missleaded to think that way need to know they are the biomass that pay the bills.
I dont assume I am right. I am aware -despite my implants- I am human and therefor I may fail. I am not acting like some who seems to posses the absolute truth and even dare to speak on behalf of CCP or any gury who created EvE and telling us like a dogma what is EvE about and what is not. I only share my idea and fight for keeping and enhancing what I have and dream of what it could be. I am glad some people out there share some points of view.
For 50 millions many big corporations may ruin small corporations 'for fun'. For pride, for courage, for honour I want the right to rise the bet to one or two billions. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41496&find=unread
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
299
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Posted - 2014.06.01 13:29:00 -
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Cypherous wrote:Sobaan Tali wrote:I'll bite and say it if it hadn't already been...
Most ships in Eve do have what are called drone bays. Those are for what are called drones...
You get where I'm going with this, don't you? How dare you imply that the OP should spend time and money in learning to protect himself instead of expecting the harsh universe of EVE to do it for him!!!
Oh, I dare, good sir. I dare. |
Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical
391
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Posted - 2014.06.01 13:29:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Pix Severus wrote:If you need help, hire some player mercs, giving your enemy a PvE encounter isn't going to hurt them beyond boring them a little. Hm I preffer to put my isk in someone that I know is going to fight for me. I dont trust mercs.
Noone fights for you if you are paying them. They are fighting for the isk.
Merc corps fight for two things
Isk and reputation: Merc corps dont go back on contracts as long as you pay them because if they did noone else would hire them..
Also If you are paying isk for someone to fight for you they are mercs.
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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
92
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Posted - 2014.06.01 13:32:00 -
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DHuncan wrote: Then if there are a million and ten pew pew video games out there, why is EvE different? I will tell you, for the 90% of content that is not pew pew. Sorry to wake you up this abruptly but EvE is not about pew pew solely. The mass that has being missleaded to think that way need to know they are the biomass that pay the bills.
Now if only you were correct, this game is almost entirely PvP, not always of the pew pew variety, you would be surprised how little you can do without in some way interacting with another player trying to dominate their section of EVE, even something as mundane as mining and selling things on the market is linked to PvP, and by that i mean player vs player, you're not the only person in this universe and even the act of selling or buying items forces you to interact with other players, PvE does not account for 90% of the game despite what you may think :)
So yes its not all about pew pew but it is almost entirely about competing with other players, if you want a game where you can do all of this without interacting with others i suggest the X series of games :P |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1942
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Posted - 2014.06.01 13:33:00 -
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So because people decide to put themselves into a disadvantage compared to larger groups, they deserve candy?
Nope. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! |
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DHuncan
Minerva Group
35
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:05:00 -
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Cypherous wrote:DHuncan wrote: Then if there are a million and ten pew pew video games out there, why is EvE different? I will tell you, for the 90% of content that is not pew pew. Sorry to wake you up this abruptly but EvE is not about pew pew solely. The mass that has being missleaded to think that way need to know they are the biomass that pay the bills.
Now if only you were correct, this game is almost entirely PvP, not always of the pew pew variety, you would be surprised how little you can do without in some way interacting with another player trying to dominate their section of EVE, even something as mundane as mining and selling things on the market is linked to PvP, and by that i mean player vs player, you're not the only person in this universe and even the act of selling or buying items forces you to interact with other players, PvE does not account for 90% of the game despite what you may think :) So yes its not all about pew pew but it is almost entirely about competing with other players, if you want a game where you can do all of this without interacting with others i suggest the X series of games :P
I am not saying it is not PvP. I am not even saying there is not pew pew factor and a very important one. I am saying just what I am saying. All that about I wan to pee in my pants while a shake in a station in fear and the blah blah you hear is not me but the porr understanding abilities of thos you can read here.
Again, I am talking about ballancing, I am talking about having a chance to also pew pew (not running from it, but having a tool so can also do that) without the need to be in the larger corp available either you fit in there or not. I am taling about the corporations need to be just bigger and bigger as the only way to participate (again, instead of running or hidding). https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41496&find=unread
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1943
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:09:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Again, I am talking about ballancing, I am talking about having a chance to also pew pew (not running from it, but having a tool so can also do that) without the need to be in the larger corp available either you fit in there or not. I am taling about the corporations need to be just bigger and bigger as the only way to participate (again, instead of running or hidding). What about all those smaller corps who are successfull at "pewpew" and thus completely nullify what you are talking about?
You are too narrow minded. Open your eyes for those who prove that you are wrong, because you are. There is no unfairness involved at all. Nature simply works that way.
More people who flock together are more successfull than less people who flock together.
Still, the smaller group can compete against bigger groups simply by outsmarting them and using guerilla tactics.
The problem, as usual, is the user. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3644
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:12:00 -
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Hiring NPC Escorts is a WiS feature I could stand behind. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1424
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:12:00 -
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OP, you haven't thought it through.
The PVP crowd will likely outnumber the PVEer in a typical situation. These larger number of PVPers can each also hire your NPC escorts. In fact, you are advocating a solution that gives PVPers more guns and damage. You will be worse off than you are now.
Think of these NPC escorts as drones. All you're advocating for is more drones. |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
35
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:25:00 -
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Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.
What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41496&find=unread
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1944
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:31:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.
What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers. How about we just all come after you, as you are annoying and unable to properly express yourself and don't understand that there is no problem that needs to be fixed in the first place? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
35
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:36:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:DHuncan wrote:Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.
What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers. How about we just all come after you, as you are annoying and unable to properly express yourself and don't understand that there is no problem that needs to be fixed in the first place?
Supongo que ignoras otros idiomas que yo, sin embargo, domino a la perfeccion. Asi que entre lo que tu puedes hablar y lo que yo puedo hablar, necesariamente tendremos que disponer de mis conocimientos, por la insuficiencia de los tuyos. Creo que deberias callar a este respecto.
Eres tu quien, de forma tan arrogante, niega u otorga como si tuvieses autoridad para tal menester. Eres tu quien insulta, quien asume erroneamente lo peor, quien no se conforma con un comentario sino que insiste aportando nada. No soy yo quien molesta, eres tu. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41496&find=unread
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11756
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:37:00 -
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DHuncan wrote:Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.
What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers.
High sec piracy is not griefing.
You are a bear wanting CCP to protect you because you dont want to put in the effort to go hire some mercs. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
DHuncan
Minerva Group
35
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:39:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:DHuncan wrote:Again you are assuming I am in trouble and trying to find a fix. Adapt the game instead of adapt me. Thats not what I am explaining here.
What about the minners who are wardecked by gangs not so large? Yes attackets may use it too -if limitations allow war starters to do so- but the bill may be somehow higher than the 50 millions. May be a second thought to those only have to create some havoc and may happen than isk wise the industrials happen to be stronger than the hordes of griefers. High sec piracy is not griefing. You are a bear wanting CCP to protect you because you dont want to put in the effort to go hire some mercs.
This. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41496&find=unread
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11756
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:42:00 -
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The answer is no.
Go hire those mercs or do it yourself. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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