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Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:27:00 -
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I guess making a post about the topic is off topic(logic?).
As I said, this is not a new idea. 1 - 2 - 3
You can catch fast aligning ships if you have a high enough scan resolution(sensor boosters(sebos) are a great way to do that). It happens in low sec gate camps all the time where they don't have the luxury of bubbles. If you make one type of bubble better than the others then automatically all other bubbles become obsolete and unused(that's bad). Schrodinger's Hot Dropper |
Titus Tallang
EVE University Ivy League
35
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Posted - 2014.06.04 21:01:00 -
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If a ship's align time drops to 2 seconds or below (easily achievable in most Interceptors by using Inertial Stabilizers), you cannot activate a warp disruptor/scrambler before it enters warp even with infinite scan resolution due to the way server ticks work.
Double-check your facts, please. Teaching Manager - EVE University - http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/ |
Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole
275
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Posted - 2014.06.04 21:59:00 -
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Titus Tallang wrote:If a ship's align time drops to 2 seconds or below (easily achievable in most Interceptors by using Inertial Stabilizers), you cannot activate a warp disruptor/scrambler before it enters warp even with infinite scan resolution due to the way server ticks work.
Double-check your facts, please.
In spite of what you are saying it does happen. Watch Jita undock or check the gatecamps in Perimeter, you'll see some inhuman clicking and lock speeds there. Doesn't matter how fast you align because the very mechanic you're siting as proof sometime swings the other way. Anyone who actually has lowsec pvp experience knows that fast alignment doesn't guarantee safety. Schrodinger's Hot Dropper |
Ray Kyonhe
Ray's Relentless Research Special Circumstances Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:27:00 -
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Kaerakh wrote: In spite of what you are saying it does happen. Watch Jita undock or check the gatecamps in Perimeter, you'll see some inhuman clicking and lock speeds there
Couldn't all those incidents be attributed to trivial human factor, like pilot's own erorr? Survey/voting system inbuilt to the game client:-álink |
Titus Tallang
EVE University Ivy League
35
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:40:00 -
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We ran Singularity tests on this a few months back. Had a 2sec align Interceptor warp from gate cloak while a second pilot had an auto-clicking tool spam click the overview at 50 clicks per second (with nothing except "Interceptors" ticked) with a warp disruptor pending activation ("flashing").
We kept doing this until we had a sample of 20 test runs where the Interceptor actually jumped in within disruptor range. As expected, not a single disruption attempt succeeded - the lock would always complete, but the module activation would fail with a "Target is invulnerable." error message.
Now, this might not be considered a conclusive sample by some, of course. Feel free to run your own tests to refute the claim.
PS: You wouldn't be getting a 2-second align time on the Jita undock, as align time is measured from a standstill. You undock from a station with a certain velocity, thus increasing your align time when the target location is not in-line with the undock vector. Teaching Manager - EVE University - http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/ |
Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole
275
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:53:00 -
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Ray Kyonhe wrote:Kaerakh wrote: In spite of what you are saying it does happen. Watch Jita undock or check the gatecamps in Perimeter, you'll see some inhuman clicking and lock speeds there
Couldn't all those incidents be attributed to trivial human factor, like pilot's own erorr? I suppose, I wasn't actually piloting the ships that I killed. Schrodinger's Hot Dropper |
Catherine Laartii
State Protectorate Caldari State
196
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:50:00 -
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I railed against it when they said they were giving them bubble immunity and I'll do it now. 'dictors should have gotten the bubble immunity, not interceptors. They could have solved the cyno issue easily by making only the ewar ships in the game (t1&t2 frigs, cruisers) the ability to drop a cyno, and nobody would have complained. It's so simple it's a wonder they haven't fixed it and adopted that method. |
Gaijin Lanis
Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:51:00 -
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Kaerakh wrote:Titus Tallang wrote:If a ship's align time drops to 2 seconds or below (easily achievable in most Interceptors by using Inertial Stabilizers), you cannot activate a warp disruptor/scrambler before it enters warp even with infinite scan resolution due to the way server ticks work.
Double-check your facts, please. In spite of what you are saying it does happen. Watch Jita undock or check the gatecamps in Perimeter, you'll see some inhuman clicking and lock speeds there. Doesn't matter how fast you align because the very mechanic you're siting as proof sometime swings the other way. Anyone who actually has lowsec pvp experience knows that fast alignment doesn't guarantee safety.
Jita undock is not a fair indication of time to align/lock/whatever. As even the fastest aligning hull will need more than a server tick to stop, turn around, accelerate to 75% of speed, and warp to the gates that are not directly in line with jita's undock kick. Since all gates in jita are not directly in line with jita's undock kick, anyone who warps directly to a gate will be vulnerable for at least one server tick.
Nothing "superhuman" there, just game physics. The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all. |
w3ak3stl1nk
Hedion University
62
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:33:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:I railed against it when they said they were giving them bubble immunity and I'll do it now. 'dictors should have gotten the bubble immunity, not interceptors. They could have solved the cyno issue easily by making only the ewar ships in the game (t1&t2 frigs, cruisers) the ability to drop a cyno, and nobody would have complained. It's so simple it's a wonder they haven't fixed it and adopted that method. I think the venture should have got it and not interceptors and not dictor Is that my two cents or yours? |
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