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Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
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Posted - 2014.06.05 09:11:00 -
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I've been off PvPing for the past 2-3 months, came back to run some missions and see that Gallente LP value seems to have completely tanked. 2.6k isk/lp used to be a thing, then it fell down to 2k. Now it's below 1k!
My first guess was that we have Rubicon Marauders, MTUs, MJDs, and salvage drones to thank for this, but other faction's LP stores appear to be somewhat intact. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:30:00 -
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Wait a few weeks it will change. The faction LP stores are cyclic. |
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.05 14:15:00 -
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Possible that the new faction drone modules have caused a temporary and unsustainable spike in certain tag prices, wait it out. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.05 14:55:00 -
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Hakaari Inkuran wrote:Possible that the new faction drone modules have caused a temporary and unsustainable spike in certain tag prices, wait it out. Most definitely. The Caldari Navy Vice Admiral I tags in particular have been a huge bottleneck.
You also have to keep in mind that GalMIl has been at Tier 2 for several months, and had a good 4-5 weeks at Tier 3. We're unusually flush with LP these days as a result.
In addition, if you're getting less than 1k isk/LP you're doing it very very wrong. There's a lot of items going for 1.4-1.5k isk/LP to buy orders in Jita. 2k isk/LP is still doable if you're patient and use sell orders. |
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
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Posted - 2014.06.05 15:02:00 -
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many 5 run bpc's go for more than 2k isk/lp (web, ab, mwd, tracking comp) |
Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
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Posted - 2014.06.05 15:07:00 -
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Veskrashen wrote:Hakaari Inkuran wrote:Possible that the new faction drone modules have caused a temporary and unsustainable spike in certain tag prices, wait it out. Most definitely. The Caldari Navy Vice Admiral I tags in particular have been a huge bottleneck. You also have to keep in mind that GalMIl has been at Tier 2 for several months, and had a good 4-5 weeks at Tier 3. We're unusually flush with LP these days as a result. In addition, if you're getting less than 1k isk/LP you're doing it very very wrong. There's a lot of items going for 1.4-1.5k isk/LP to buy orders in Jita. 2k isk/LP is still doable if you're patient and use sell orders.
The faction drone modules make a lot of sense. Not sure what Tier 2 & 3 are?
I usually build webs, perhaps the spreadsheets that calculate isk/lp aren't quite right atm. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.06.05 15:50:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:
Not sure what Tier 2 & 3 are?
Faction Warfare LP payouts are based on a tier system, its what makes the overall LPs cycle as farmers change back and forth between factions, the swings should get smaller now that they have made it slightly harder to farm.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:20:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:
Not sure what Tier 2 & 3 are?
Faction Warfare LP payouts are based on a tier system, it's what makes the overall LP value cycle as farmers change back and forth between factions, the swings should get smaller now that they have made it slightly harder to farm. This is usually kept up to date
Ah ok. Thanks for that link. I had it months ago but I couldn't find it lately. I wasn't talking about FW LP. I'm talking about mission LP. FW LP and mission LP same thing?
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Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:53:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Ah ok. Thanks for that link. I had it months ago but I couldn't find it lately. I wasn't talking about FW LP. I'm talking about mission LP. FW LP and mission LP same thing? LP are LP. You can earn them from running FW plexes or FW missions, same thing. Both plex and mission payouts are impacted by FW Tier.
At higher Tiers, you get a lot more LP for the same activities. Gallente are generally at a lot lower Tier on average than the other factions, hence the traditionally higher isk/LP. What you're seeing is basically a small supply glut impacting the conversion rates. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:55:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:
Not sure what Tier 2 & 3 are?
Faction Warfare LP payouts are based on a tier system, it's what makes the overall LP value cycle as farmers change back and forth between factions, the swings should get smaller now that they have made it slightly harder to farm. This is usually kept up to date Ah ok. Thanks for that link. I had it months ago but I couldn't find it lately. I wasn't talking about FW LP. I'm talking about mission LP. FW LP and mission LP same thing?
The FW LP stores have a lot of the stuff offered at the other LP stores and some of it is offered for less LPs, so yes, they are linked. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
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Carmen Electra
Drunk Chaos Blood.Drunk
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:57:00 -
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Veskrashen wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:Ah ok. Thanks for that link. I had it months ago but I couldn't find it lately. I wasn't talking about FW LP. I'm talking about mission LP. FW LP and mission LP same thing? LP are LP. You can earn them from running FW plexes or FW missions, same thing. Both plex and mission payouts are impacted by FW Tier. At higher Tiers, you get a lot more LP for the same activities. Gallente are generally at a lot lower Tier on average than the other factions, hence the traditionally higher isk/LP. What you're seeing is basically a small supply glut impacting the conversion rates.
Ok, but does what you're talking about impact running high sec missions for private corps such as Poteque Pharmaceuticals for example? |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.06.05 17:59:00 -
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Yes, although the items come from different places, the items are the same and all sold on the same market, so the price of the items is what drives the value of the LPs "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.06.05 18:18:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:Veskrashen wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:Ah ok. Thanks for that link. I had it months ago but I couldn't find it lately. I wasn't talking about FW LP. I'm talking about mission LP. FW LP and mission LP same thing? LP are LP. You can earn them from running FW plexes or FW missions, same thing. Both plex and mission payouts are impacted by FW Tier. At higher Tiers, you get a lot more LP for the same activities. Gallente are generally at a lot lower Tier on average than the other factions, hence the traditionally higher isk/LP. What you're seeing is basically a small supply glut impacting the conversion rates. Ok, but does what you're talking about impact running high sec missions for private corps such as Poteque Pharmaceuticals for example?
The FW LP store does impact them because while you may pay 600K LP for a Navy Megathron, I only have to pay half that LP. Now if Gallente FW pilots decide to cash in their LP, then you are going to see a reduction in your LP to isk ratio.
What is prolly happening right now it that a lot of Gallente FW farmers are cashing out, and thusly lowering the LP/isk ratio. |
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