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Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
995
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Posted - 2014.06.06 01:58:00 -
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Trin Javidan wrote:If you are at a festival where there are 21 toilets owned by 21 different toilet rental companies of which some are free to use and others cost 50 cents, everyone go's to the free ones and the charging ones probaly dont make much profit.
If you are at a fesival where there are 21 toilets owned by 3 differerent toilet rental companies (7 each) of which they agreed to make a fixed price of 1 dollar for each visit, than they would make a hugh profit because the festival visitors wont have any choise.
I dont know how it is called in english (and i am kinda a noob), but that seems like a pretty good sceme.
If this would be a real live case where the first situation is 5 years before the last given situation than i would wonder "what happend?". I would question myselve why only the surviving 3 toilet rental companies are left and if they would have a common factor that tributed to their survival. In a monetairy game where isk is power, it is more likely by having moar isk than the competitor. Looking at this logic and reflecting on eve; the deciding factor must lies in the early moments where the 3 surviving toilet rental companies gained a head start. The reson why is than simply found. So why is the current state of 0.0 so ****?
"Yadi-yadi-ya"
Ps: "oh and it starts with a T"
There are free toilets, but nobody cleans them and the water respawns in some other toilet when you flush it so its not a good idea to use one after someone else has. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5185
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Posted - 2014.06.06 02:10:00 -
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I cartel events by making sure that the only toilets available to use are my toilets. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10305
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Posted - 2014.06.06 02:49:00 -
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Carmen Electra wrote:We need some sort of browser plugin that will force you to breathe into a breathalyzer before hitting "POST" Posting not allowed below 0.1% BAC. I could get behind that. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Serene Repose
1376
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Posted - 2014.06.06 03:15:00 -
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It's a matter of desire and wherewithal. We've had a long evolutionary period. There has been a lot of combat. The shape of EVE shifted significantly once, rather significantly once, and is now settling into a period of stasis. This is not unlike real life...what am I saying? This IS real life even IF you're doing it via computer.
What happens next is the ball to keep your eye on. What comes next will come from what is now. Somewhere someone is attracting other someones and they're going to get the idea all those holders of large map chunks aren't all that POWERFUL, if approached correctly. The nutcracker will be applied. The shape of EVE will shift significantly, then rather insignificantly, then comes this stasis everyone loves so much.
The cycles of history...Harley Davidsons? Hardly. But, they still VROOOM!!
The QUESTION is, where will you be in all this as it unfolds? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
193
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Posted - 2014.06.06 04:11:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Carmen Electra wrote:We need some sort of browser plugin that will force you to breathe into a breathalyzer before hitting "POST" Posting not allowed below 0.1% BAC. I could get behind that. Alternatively, make gatecampers have a mandatory breath test so they're only allowed to camp above 0.5% BAC. |
Veld San
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.06.06 10:10:00 -
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Rende Crow wrote:Are Monopoly's bad? Yes.
Will complaining about all the rental corps on the forums change anything? No.
At the end of the day if you really want to be free of the mega corps who have taken over null sec space you simply need to find a very OUT OF THE WAY location to live in 0.0. For instance a place with the closest medical station 15 jumps away or something.
The better solution is to cancel sub and move on like I am doing. In comparison with other MMOs on the current market which I am playing I see this as a dev fail 101 at poor game mechanics, in this particular case, poor sov mechanics.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
838
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:01:00 -
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Toilet.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5257
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:10:00 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year. All the corporations and players in highsec will stop everything they are doing and pick an area to raid on a massive scale for some truly epic PVP action!
We rush in and wipe out everything in site including POS sites.
This road leads to Rome.
Go get 'em Hannibal.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
26
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:34:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:It's a matter of desire and wherewithal. We've had a long evolutionary period. There has been a lot of combat. The shape of EVE shifted significantly once, rather significantly once, and is now settling into a period of stasis. This is not unlike real life...what am I saying? This IS real life even IF you're doing it via computer.
The QUESTION is, where will you be in all this as it unfolds?
But what if this period of stasis was not evolutionary but handmade? By implenmentation of "new" poor mechanics ontop of allready not very well sov game mechanics, and than made worse by neglecting if for a couple of years?. Wouldnt that raise the ethical question of who's to blame for the less fun currently experiancing (and in future) from it and who's to fix "their" own "mess"?
A thin line indeed, worth discussing at rykjavik office.... |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4955
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:41:00 -
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Trin Javidan wrote: the ethical question
the what? "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. |
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Strawberry Shortcake69
Hyperion Corporation
0
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:54:00 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year.
This idea is older than the wheel. |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
360
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:02:00 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year. All the corporations and players in highsec will stop everything they are doing and pick an area to raid on a massive scale for some truly epic PVP action!
We rush in and wipe out everything in site including POS sites.
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It will be the most fun you will ever have in Eve. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
916
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:17:00 -
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Ill sum it up for you.
Null Sec is the way it is because the Sov system is utter ****. The mechanics of Sov War encourage N+1 mentality, give a huge advantage to defenders, and the ability to relocate entire fleets across the entirety of EVE in less than 20 minutes means there is no real surprise attacking.
The system needs a massive overhaul, and it needs to be changed to encourage a "Use it or Lose it" mentality. Ever taken a trip into Null. 90% of it is empty space, people don't even use the systems, yet they have ~ 1 week to form up a fleet to defend a single timer should it ever be attacked.
Flawed mechanics mean Blue as many as you can and outside the one or two big fights, (which are **** in their own rights) its just a ******* 2 month grind of shooting structures. The system sucks, and people would rather sit in station then subject themselves to the brain cancer that is Dominion Sov. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6184
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:50:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:people would rather sit in station then subject themselves to the brain cancer that is Dominion Sov. No wonder we can win sov wars, we had DaBigRedBoat and Lyris Nairn and of course N+1 bombless bombers ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Careby
Careby Exploration Create Alliance
174
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Posted - 2014.06.06 16:56:00 -
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Where have I seen that color scheme...
Sarcasm is OP |
Vivec Septim
The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact
39
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Posted - 2014.06.08 01:34:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:1) Toilets are a necessity, owning systems isnt
2) Your example is flawed. Where are those whining they can't make their own toilets?
I don't know if toilets are so necessary if you live in the woods. The bushes work kind of fine... which is sort of like Wormhole life if you think about it... those people who say "SCREW TOILETS, I've got a bush!" |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5016
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Posted - 2014.06.08 01:36:00 -
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Vivec Septim wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:1) Toilets are a necessity, owning systems isnt
2) Your example is flawed. Where are those whining they can't make their own toilets? I don't know if toilets are so necessary if you live in the woods. The bushes work kind of fine... which is sort of like Wormhole life if you think about it... those people who say "SCREW TOILETS, I've got a bush!"
Those people have dirty butts and probably a disease "A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. |
Frank Doberman
7th Church of the Apocalyptic Lawnmower
19
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Posted - 2014.06.08 01:42:00 -
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Analogy is flawed.
It's only really Caldari hisec and certain parts of Sinq which truly resemble a toilet. A used and un-flushed one in Forge/Citadel's case. |
Vivec Septim
The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact
40
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Posted - 2014.06.08 01:54:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Vivec Septim wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:1) Toilets are a necessity, owning systems isnt
2) Your example is flawed. Where are those whining they can't make their own toilets? I don't know if toilets are so necessary if you live in the woods. The bushes work kind of fine... which is sort of like Wormhole life if you think about it... those people who say "SCREW TOILETS, I've got a bush!" Those people have dirty butts and probably a disease
Those damn, dirty, wormhole residents! |
Sul Glass
Other Worlds
39
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Posted - 2014.06.08 07:58:00 -
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When you flush my toilet it makes a PSSSHHHH sort of noise. |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11844
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Posted - 2014.06.08 08:39:00 -
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Strawberry Shortcake69 wrote:Chewytowel Haklar wrote:Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year. This idea is older than the wheel.
VFK by September. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3059
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Posted - 2014.06.08 14:55:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Magnus Cortex wrote:shots fired Just a humorous remark regarding the OP's peculiar choice of metaphor. No offense intended to any nullseccers.
It makes me so happy to see an ISD trolling.
OP: Sovereign nullsec is only one part of EVE. If you aren't interested in the blob warfare that goes with it, consider wormholes. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=346564 - a proposal to overhaul the Logistics skill https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
27
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Posted - 2014.06.12 14:50:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Magnus Cortex wrote:shots fired Just a humorous remark regarding the OP's peculiar choice of metaphor. No offense intended to any nullseccers. It makes me so happy to see an ISD trolling. OP: Sovereign nullsec is only one part of EVE. If you aren't interested in the blob warfare that goes with it, consider wormholes.
Wormholes is a good idea, thx! |
flakeys
Guinea pig inc
2226
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Posted - 2014.06.12 15:02:00 -
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Trin Javidan wrote:If you are at a festival where there are 21 toilets owned by 21 different toilet rental companies of which some are free to use and others cost 50 cents, everyone go's to the free ones and the charging ones probaly dont make much profit.
If you are at a fesival where there are 21 toilets owned by 3 differerent toilet rental companies (7 each) of which they agreed to make a fixed price of 1 dollar for each visit, than they would make a hugh profit because the festival visitors wont have any choise.
I dont know how it is called in english (and i am kinda a noob), but that seems like a pretty good sceme.
If this would be a real live case where the first situation is 5 years before the last given situation than i would wonder "what happend?". I would question myselve why only the surviving 3 toilet rental companies are left and if they would have a common factor that tributed to their survival. In a monetairy game where isk is power, it is more likely by having moar isk than the competitor. Looking at this logic and reflecting on eve; the deciding factor must lies in the early moments where the 3 surviving toilet rental companies gained a head start. The reson why is than simply found. So why is the current state of 0.0 so ****?
"Yadi-yadi-ya"
Ps: "oh and it starts with a T"
This thread makes me feel like taking a dump ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1266
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Posted - 2014.06.12 17:47:00 -
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I wanted to live in a 0.0 security environment but didn't want to deal with the exploitation and political nonsense that goes on in SOV.
So I moved to Anoikis. This is-á a signature. |
Spectral Tiger
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.13 01:16:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Ill sum it up for you.
Null Sec is the way it is because the Sov system is utter ****.
I agree, the sov system killed null.
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Aiwha
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
750
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Posted - 2014.06.13 01:19:00 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:Perhaps we simply need to start a RAID NULLSEC month every year. All the corporations and players in highsec will stop everything they are doing and pick an area to raid on a massive scale for some truly epic PVP action!
We rush in and wipe out everything in site including POS sites.
Please do this. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE COME DO THIS. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1596
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Posted - 2014.06.13 01:25:00 -
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Saw this on Help chat the other day: Hi vs Low vs Nullsec vs WH .. when everything else is gone .. |
Zero Sum Gain
The Scope Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2014.06.13 01:50:00 -
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I get the rest but who's the low sec dude? |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1596
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Posted - 2014.06.13 02:48:00 -
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Zero Sum Gain wrote:I get the rest but who's the low sec dude? Actually I sort of wondered that too
But such is lowsec? .. when everything else is gone .. |
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