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Xonus Calimar
CaeIum Incognitum
19
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:27:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:EA buyout in 3... 2... 1...
Oh God, don't even joke about that.
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JC Anderson
State Protectorate Caldari State
1115
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:31:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Wow, people are surprised by the fact that higher uppers have writers?
People probably think politicians speak freely too, hu?
Common sense. What? Never heard of it?
I don't see this the same way... It was written in a personal soul searching sort of way. If that makes any sense. I can't think of another way to describe it. Especially due to what was happening at the time when this was written to diffuse the entire situation.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672 |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1983
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:31:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:I think it may be safe to assume that the June Financials will be very bad. CCP can still sell WoD IP. That's probably what they're going to do.
Doubt there would be many potential buyers. The WoD IP isn't what I would consider to have a large market for.
They could however license out the Carbon Engine, I'm sure they will lure more suckers into buying that then the IP.
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
3948
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:38:00 -
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Why are people raging about the internal wranglings off a company.
We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info.
EDIT:
I forgot this is EVE. Where the majority of the player base has entitlement issues. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2063
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:40:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Wow, people are surprised by the fact that higher uppers have writers?
People probably think politicians speak freely too, hu?
Common sense. What? Never heard of it? I don't see this the same way... It was written in a personal soul searching sort of way. If that makes any sense. I can't think of another way to describe it. Especially due to what was happening at the time when this was written to diffuse the entire situation. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672 It does not matter how you see it. Pretty much everyone out there who speaks in public has a writer. There is no surprise here, except the lack of common sense of people.
This just proves once more how gullible people are. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499 |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1930
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:48:00 -
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Apology letter written by fiction department. FICTION. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1281
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Posted - 2014.06.06 11:54:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Tippia wrote:Domania wrote:Pine Marten wrote:Psssshhhhhh! Needs a little more... Psssssshhhhhhh... Ok. Ok where the hell did this meme come from and when? :P
I like it. It has a certain je ne sais quoi about it. The onomatopoeia is portentous as well, as all that money was ultimately pissed up the wall. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction
547
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:02:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote: We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info..
Point of fact, you can read the investor reports and six month financials and get the info first hand. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
480
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:11:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Why are people raging about the internal wranglings off a company.
We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info. I fully agree with Kane here, though it is a pretty unavoidable side effect of a Community that cares about the game and the people behind it.
I do find it amusing how people are easily fooled by simple journalistic tricks such as this one:
Eventually CEO Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson issued an apology to the players. But even this short appeasement wasnGÇÖt what it seemed; according to Blood, Petursson didnGÇÖt actually write it.
GÇ£He had members of our storyline team GÇô a group responsible for writing in-game content and fiction GÇô put it together,GÇ¥ he says. GÇ£He was either so out of touch, so arrogant, or perhaps both, that he couldnGÇÖt find the words to say himself. They bailed him out big time.GÇ¥
The Guardian couldn't honestly accuse Mr. Petursson of being out of touch and/or arrogant, so they let Mr. Blood do it instead! While providing objectively weak but 'sensational' evidence about it.
Truth is, very few people actually know if Mr. Petursson was really arrogant or, on the contrary, humble enough to seek expert help in wording his own, heartfelt, thoughts on a matter of significant importance to the company he leads. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22378
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:19:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:The Guardian couldn't honestly accuse Mr. Petursson of being out of touch and/or arrogant, so they let Mr. Blood do it instead! While providing objectively weak but 'sensational' evidence about it. How else would they have done it and still be journalists rather than CCP employees? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
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JC Anderson
State Protectorate Caldari State
1115
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:21:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Why are people raging about the internal wranglings off a company.
We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info. I fully agree with Kane here, though it is a pretty unavoidable side effect of a Community that cares about the game and the people behind it. I do find it amusing how people are easily fooled by simple journalistic tricks such as this one: Eventually CEO Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson issued an apology to the players. But even this short appeasement wasnGÇÖt what it seemed; according to Blood, Petursson didnGÇÖt actually write it.
GÇ£He had members of our storyline team GÇô a group responsible for writing in-game content and fiction GÇô put it together,GÇ¥ he says. GÇ£He was either so out of touch, so arrogant, or perhaps both, that he couldnGÇÖt find the words to say himself. They bailed him out big time.GÇ¥The Guardian couldn't honestly accuse Mr. Petursson of being out of touch and/or arrogant, so they let Mr. Blood do it instead! While providing objectively weak but 'sensational' evidence about it. Truth is, very few people actually know if Mr. Petursson was really arrogant or, on the contrary, humble enough to seek expert help in wording his own, heartfelt, thoughts on a matter of significant importance to the company he leads.
I think they are likely predisposed to feeling he is arrogant or whatever from what has happened in the past prior to this point. The greed is good leak for example. Or the later interviews after that whole thing.
Is saying he is Arrogant justified from those factors? I have no idea, but they may think so. |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
182
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:27:00 -
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CCP is first and foremost a company -deal with it. Second their product occupies a niche in the market - therefore not insane profit. Although I'm not seeing " EVE is dying!" - seeing the moves from their part in recent months it looks like they are shifting back to the small-team structure. Which is a very good plan. They should reduce their efforts to EVE, EVE: Valkyrie and EVE: Legion, trying to create a centralized system. CCP has spread too much for a company that get's it's profits 90% out of a subscription. If EVE: Valkyrie and EVE: Legion have at least moderate success 49 people will get a job at CCP.
If the subscription fee will go up THEN you can start shitting your pants.
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit It never felt so good, I never felt so hid" - Ramona McCandless, Untitled |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2432
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:28:00 -
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Eve Online as a 'game' may be doing okay, but one has to wonder how well or not, CCP as a company is doing.
The good folk from CCP simply posting that they are' super excited' in support of each other in the forums with each new addition to the game, (loot spew for example) is not the same thing as getting approval from us, you know, the folk who pay their wages.
I have played Eve Online for quite some time now and I really want CCP to be successful, for them, because it pays their wages, and for us so we have a good game to spend money on and play.
Between staff leaving and layoffs, reading the tea leaves, it all seems a bit worrying right now. This is not a signature. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5201
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:32:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Why are people raging about the internal wranglings off a company.
We are not privi to info available to those that make decisions so stop pretending you know what is a good for a company based on 2nd, 3rd or even 4th hand info.
EDIT:
I forgot this is EVE. Where the majority of the player base has entitlement issues.
Gee, go & declare war on a 2-day old newbie over it why don't you. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Steve Celeste
Overdogs
286
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:32:00 -
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Don't layoff my boot.ini please. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
481
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:The Guardian couldn't honestly accuse Mr. Petursson of being out of touch and/or arrogant, so they let Mr. Blood do it instead! While providing objectively weak but 'sensational' evidence about it. How else would they have done it and still be journalists rather than CCP employees? The TL;DR of The Guardian's article is: 'WoD was not flawlessly managed'. Which we already know, else in all probability it wouldn't have been cancelled after 9 years and a good bunch of people would still have thier jobs.
The rest, including the 'apology letter' story is just sensationalism, which I agree with you that is many journalists' bread and butter, but I don't really find it interesting. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1983
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:49:00 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:CCP is first and foremost a company -deal with it. Second their product occupies a niche in the market - therefore not insane profit. Although I'm not seeing " EVE is dying!" - seeing the moves from their part in recent months it looks like they are shifting back to the small-team structure. Which is a very good plan. They should reduce their efforts to EVE, EVE: Valkyrie and EVE: Legion, trying to create a centralized system. CCP has spread too much for a company that get's it's profits 90% out of a subscription. If EVE: Valkyrie and EVE: Legion have at least moderate success 49 people will get a job at CCP.
If the subscription fee will go up THEN you can start shitting your pants.
You contradict yourself and the fact that they are going down the same road that lead them into this mess.
You say that CCP should focus solely on Eve, Valkyrie, Legion, at the same time not spread themselves thin. Yet even before the layoffs they were spread thin with Eve, Dust, WoD. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2207
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:50:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:At least CCP is nice enough to hold job fairs and bring out recruiters for their employees so they find jobs immediately, and the transition is almost seamless. Wow. So clueless. Or possibly a manager trying to slap on the mental salve? At least 2-3 months of salary will hit the ashcan from this disruption in their lives. Real estate investments trashed. Worse, the mental trauma for them, their SO's and the kids from being ripped out of from social groups, schools, and functions. You're admiring CCP for being "nice"?? CCP's doing what it absolutely should be doing to minimize the pain caused by upper management's continuing series of mistakes. The only saving grace would be that upper management was also be properly being held accountable for those decisions, but that ivory tower is packing super high resists.
Nerf Ivory towers ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2207
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:52:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:I expect the same response from CCP as we got regarding Somergate
This ^^
The fiction team is still working on the oficiall response ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
481
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:55:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:they are going down the same road that lead them into this mess.
You say that CCP should focus solely on Eve, Valkyrie, Legion, at the same time not spread themselves thin. Yet even before the layoffs they were spread thin with Eve, Dust, WoD. I'm not a gaming industry expert, but with Legion being a PC 'port' of an existing game (instead of an entirely new game on a different platform) and Valkyrie seeming - to me at least - a less ambitious project than WoD, they do seem to be focussing more.
Also, the 'one universe' could greatly help cross-selling, on the revenue side.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22385
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Posted - 2014.06.06 12:57:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:The TL;DR of The Guardian's article is: 'WoD was not flawlessly managed'. Which we already know, else in all probability it wouldn't have been cancelled after 9 years and a good bunch of people would still have thier jobs.
The rest, including the 'apology letter' story is just sensationalism, which I agree with you that is many journalists' bread and butter, but I don't really find it interesting. On the other hand, it's a great quote. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Domania wrote:Pine Marten wrote:Psssshhhhhh! Needs a little more... Psssssshhhhhhh... Ok.
Just this....
...with all respect. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
482
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:11:00 -
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Matilda Cecilia Fock wrote:...with all respect. Except that isn't very respectful, come on. Let's not ruin the hilarious Psssshhhh meme. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6468
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:12:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Apology letter written by fiction department. FICTION. So they might have used the people in their company who are the best writers to help with the most important public letter in the history of the company. Shocking.
As always my discontent level goes up and down with the quality and direction of the game. If the game continues to deliver, I don't care too much how it's being delivered to us. If their actions threaten to ruin it, I don't care if CCP is the bestest company ever and a dream job in the industry. Therefore I'm largely unfazed by this.For years CCP has been plagued with taking on projects they've been unprepared to handle. Now they're admitting the reality and doing the needed pruning. It's not fun for anyone and it can be hard to see misfortune happen to familiar faces, but that's the nature of restructuring.
About the management issues, I've talked to a lot of people about their jobs and the number of people not complaining about incompetent and out-of-touch managers is currently zero. Doesn't mean it's a good thing or something you don't need to address at some point, but it's nothing special either.
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JC Anderson
State Protectorate Caldari State
1115
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:15:00 -
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On the bright side, Orange is the new black season 2 was finally released on Netflix. |
Naomi Hale
272
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:27:00 -
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Reading the Gurdian article, not really sure you can think of CCP as the black sheep of game developement.
I used to share an office with a guy, he was designing the lead character for a game. He'd done dozens of facial concepts at the behest of the game's director, change the jaw line, different eyebrows, that sort of thing. One day, after weeks of work, the director comes in looks at the concepts and says "Make him look more edgy!" The guy ask what he meant by "edgy" to which the director simply replied "you know, Edgy!" and walked off.
This director had one other game under his belt (a poorly received one), dozens of complaints against him and people had left the company over having to work with him yet management kept him on, I never found out why. Company went bust about four years later.
My point (if there is one) is that management in games companies never seems to explain themselves to the rank and file, which leads to resentment over how thngs are run. It's not just CCP. I'm Naomi Hale and this is my favourite thread on the forums. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3115
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:33:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Temporarily locked for some cleanup.
Okay, false alarm. Removed a post for rumor mongering and attacks against a CCP employee. Thread unlocked.
Are there many left to rage against? Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Pine Marten
Viziam Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:11:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Temporarily locked for some cleanup.
Okay, false alarm. Removed a post for rumor mongering and attacks against a CCP employee. Thread unlocked.
Are there many left to rage against?
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1931
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:12:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Apology letter written by fiction department. FICTION. So they might have used the people in their company who are the best writers to help with the most important public letter in the history of the company. Shocking.
My wife is better than me at cleaning so I use her help to clean my code.
I don't care about layoffs and whatever internal turmoil is going on at CCP. I pay for a game and as long as they deliver they can sacrifice baby seals to gods of north and I wouldn't care.
All I find it funny is that one simple letter had to be created by fiction department not by PR people. Think about it, a guy who wrote those little pieces of text for ships descriptions or mission briefings or whatever else lore entails in-game might have been same dude who wrote this "I feel you pain and share your tears so i will be good boy now" letter.
For me that's hilarious. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
XxRTEKxX
That Escalated Quickly Nerfed Alliance Go Away
132
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Posted - 2014.06.06 14:18:00 -
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I dont pay much attention to who is who in CCP. However, if ccp still has the same CEO who was CEO back during Incarna, then there is something seriously wrong at CCP. That CEO should have stepped down a long time ago and someome else should be at the helm. |
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